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2007 Chevrolet Aveo
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See http://www.chevrolet.co.uk/models/kalos_3d/t0_index_0.htm
The reason for the redesign being sedan only is simple - the sedan is the biggest seller in Korea and developing markets such as China and Eastern Europe. The hatchback sells more in Western Europe. The target customers are very different - the hatchback is a second car to a stylish Western European family, the sedan is an only car for someone who dreams of owning an E-Class but can't afford it. A strong front end with a chrome grille will work for the sedan customers, but won't appeal to the Western European hatchback buyers. Hence the sedan has been redesigned for its new target markets, but the hatch remains the same. The hatch actually had a front-end restyle for Europe prior to launch - the original US-market front end would not have appealed here either (although it was used on the sedan in some European markets).
I'd still be worried about crash-worthiness. Still can't figure out why crash tests in Europe are so much worse than the hatch.
I don't know where you get your figures -- Edmund's TMV for a base Rio w/destination is $11,158 and for a base Fit w/destination is $14,445.
The Fit is certainly more car, but on my planet $3300 MORE is not considered LESS MONEY.
Expect big discounts with all of these b-class cars if gas prices stay down-- it's 1.97 in St. Louis.
If you were looking at the Rio5 hatch, it is indeed just about a hundred cheaper than a base Fit. When you mentioned "stripper Rio", I looked at the cheapest 4-door sedan which is $3000 less than the Rio5 (TMV price is only $200 less than MSRP).
Only rebates are $500 owner loyalty and $400 for college grad bonus.
No doubt that both the Rio and Accent (especially the Rio) are improvements on the previous platform.
Liked my Elantra, liked my Festiva, so Hyundai/Kia products represent two of my three favorite cars among the 30 or so I've owned. Like my Malibu Maxx better though.
If it came down to it, I'd be hesitant to actually buy an Aveo because I'm leary of Daewoo products. It does seem to be way ahead of the cars that went to Suzuki, however.
I'd also be leary of the of the Aveo's widely varying gas mileage. I average 24 with my Maxx and can easily do better than 30 on road trips. Why have an Aveo that gets the same mileage as the 'Bu?
The new sedan allows GM to bring the Aveo upscale and the new comfort and safety features available on the sedan reflect this. A GMDAT factory in Poland has just started production of the new AVEO sedan and will soon also produce the new 2008 hatchback 3 and 5doors for the EU market.
The 2007 Aveo Sedan has a completely revised suspension system and with the optional 15" wheels, the car handles nothing like the previous 2006 Aveo/Kalos Sedan. Those who doubt me - take the new Aveo Sedan for a drive. Engine noise has been greatly improved and wind noise too. The car is very stable at freeway speeds upto 150km/hr with little wind noise.
There is some real cheapness in the car-the folding armrest, the molded in side window dashboard vents, the window cranks that are all plastic and may strip out after a few years, the factory base speakers sound awful. The important stuff they seem to have done well though.
I ordered a 16" wheel/tire package from Performance, and replaced the radio with a nice JVC stereo/speaker set.
Overall, a pretty decent car.
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My AVEO has been averaging about 7.4 litres per 100km of mixed city/freeway driving, or about 34 MPG USA/38 Imperial Gallons.
A great little car.
I had ridden as a passenger in one a couple of times but never drove on until I picked up the car. So far very pleased with the car. Cruises fine at highway speed, spacious, seats comfortable.
Acceleration a bit slow and motor a bit noisy during acceleration but I am impressed so far with fit and finish. Mileage so far about 33 mpg.
NOW--- I reported a minor oil leak (about a quarter size after it sits overnight) plus a ticking noise. (sounds like loose metal-- not engine noise). Checked to seet hat oil was full before about a 100 mile drive. Car gets noisier during the drive. I called the dealer and was told "not to worry about it" if the car still had power. Continue to drive until I get a puff of blue smoke, see parts of the car flying off on either side of the freeway. Car stalls all warning lights come on.. Car now is sitting at a different dealer. I have no confidence in the car any more--- 2 questions: Anyone have any similar issues or have any ideas as to the problem(s) AND what do I need to do to invoke my rights under lemon law?
Thanks
Jim
Definitely take it to another dealer for service, as the 1st one seems suspect, at best. In fact, I suspect that is the real source of your problem.
Lemon laws differ from state to state, so I have no suggestions there. However, I suspect that a good dealer can repair the vehicle to satisfactory standards.
New Engine time---what you would folks do--replace the engine and he happy or go lemon law?
Many thanks
jiim
Were there any other significant issues that surfaced during your ownership?
If not, keep the vehicle.
Going the lemon law route is time consuming and never guaranteed to succeed, and almost always culminates in the pro-rated discount for mileage on the vehicle, so it isn't like you get a check back from GM for the total cost of the car.
Instead, if I were you, I would DEMAND a factory engine, not a rebuilt one done by the dealer. And, I would also attempt to negotiate an extention to the drive-train warranty. ANd, don't forget to negotiate for a free rental or loaner while the work is being done.
Good luck, and let us know how it winds up!
My 2007 Chevy Aveo (5dr Automatic) oil light came on and a faint ticking was coming from the engine. I immediately drove it
1/2 mile to oil lube and they said I need to tow it to a shop. It did not seize up.. I had it towed to dealership. I have never had a problem with this car before that. It is still under the 5yr/100000 mile powertrain warranty.
I bought it used from a reputable rental company Enterprise in March 2008 29000 miles. Unfortunately they did not give me their maintenance records and I did not think to ask at the time.
I have all my maintenance records showing timely oil changes with Pennzoil 5W30 oil.
The car has 68000 miles on it. I use it for business.
Some stop and go(never idling or dusty roads) and some highway at 60 mpg for 6 miles or more.
The longest between changes was 5600. But most were between 3100 and 4500.
GM's recommended interval is 3000 for short trip(5 miles). Dealership is satisfied with my records, said I did fine with the maintenance.
GM warranty requires ALL the maintenance records even from Enterprise Car Sales, which Enterprise told me they "purged" the records which pretty much means I cant prove good maintenance. Dealership says that the vehicle could have been abused/neglected before I bought it. That means GM wont pay. At this point I have become distrusting of everyone involved.
Now the dealership service center says that GM is requiring them to tear down the motor to see if there is any coolant mixed in the sludge and to send a sludge sample to the lab. If they find coolant they would fix the car, but if they dont find any coolant, then I have to pay for the tear down $600 plus what it costs to repair/replace engine because then the reason is neglect.
I asked if neglect or coolant leaking were the ONLY reasons sludge would be present and they said yes.
My coolant levels were normal, and the service rep pretty much told me that the sludge was black, not milky yogurt looking (which would indicate coolant in the oil)
but they still need to do the tear down, just in case.
I questioned this and the mgr is playing good cop "wont do this dealership any good if customer unhappy" "GM requires this" "we want to help you" I dont know if this is all just a song and dance they do with everyone.
I dont know why they cant get sample from oil pan.
I have not yet called the 1 800 number.
I am getting a sample of the sludge myself.
The 60000 mile timing belt will be replaced when they fix/replace engine.
Here is my advice (what I have learned):
1.Use a synthetic oil, a good one and good filters. If you go to a lube place, bring your own oil and filter.
2. Change your oil at 3000 no matter what the Owners Manual says. I could have been better about my oil changes.
3. Get all the maintenance records from anyone you buy a used car from at they time of the sale or say "No deal" This warranty is not good without them.
4. If you are going thru a lot of coolant, get your car to the shop asap, it could be leaking into the engine.
Sorry so long, I dont want this to happen to anyone else. I see alot of posts here saying they change oil every 7500 miles and I cringe,
That said, I went to the dealership this morning and talked to my service rep. He has always been super nice and I truly believe he wants to help. Maybe the manager is the same way, and I shouldn't have said the "good cop song and dance" thing above until I know for sure. GM, not loving them so much- mainly because they took bailout money, my tax dollars, and got in bed with the govt.
I am ticked off a Enterprise car sales for not passing on the service records.
Got my sample straight from the top of the motor, black coal like looking chunks. I was mortified. I should hear something today on what the lab they used says. Regardless of what they find, I wish I would have changed the oil every 3000.
Also, under the advice section of my post above, I said to use synthetic oil, my service rep says they use valvoline not synthetic, so I need to research that a little more. Still get good filters and change every 3000.
Will update.