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Chevy Camaro Concept
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I see no need for anything more than 16" wheels, though
the 17" wheels may be needed for even larger brakes, if
the car is indeed heavy. 16 or 17 fine, but come on what is
with all these 18 to 20" wheels? Weight, unsprung weight
is the enemy here. The car itself should be around 2800#,
though anything up to 3200# would be awesome with a good sized six. GM should keep the most HP in the Corvette. Those willing to pay the big bucks, should have the top engine HP. A V8 of 305HP would be quick in a lighter car. Handling would be more agile than a Stang. Simple power is only good in a straight line. That is easily beaten the next year by the competition. Pretty easy to just keep adding raw power. Proper suspensions, steering feel, and weight would make the Camaro the true winner over the Stang and Challenger.
-Loren
The Nova / Camaro class could replace the Cobalt. There are more than enough little FWD cars out there.
-Loren
I personally think the New Mustang is too close to being a replicar, as is the Challenger. Keep the original as a collectors car and one to be admired at shows and in museums. But an old one to drive and keep up to preserve the wonderful old car. All those Pony cars were really great looking, with an exception of the first Barracudas, which would be debatable.
And while I disagree with which is better, I must say the Challenger - all 79" wide of it, and the current New Mustang are great if ya like'em.
And I may add, by the time Camaro comes out, the New Stang will look much more modern. They should match up well. With high gasoline cost, a modern car, with some aluminum to lower weight and a smaller size overall, with a V6 would be the ticket, IMHO. I lived the era, and must say only a few of the guys had fire breathing cars. Too expensive over all. And not many new cars. It was a different time. Perhaps now, once the Babyboomers have a couple of extra dollars, they can pretend they were one of the few with the big bucks, all so many a year ago. The closest I came was a '65 Mustang 289V8 bought used in say '70. The next car was an Opel Manta Rallye. Inflation was everywhere and gas prices were on the rise. Most popular as I recall was a Z car. Everyone after wanted a Z car in the early to mid-70's. Well, a Z28 Camaro was pretty nice too!!!
-Loren
Here they are:
http://www.taxicabs.com/autoshow/chicago2007/Chevy/Camaro/
Just click the photo of the car to move to the next one. I think about 30 photos or so...
The car is hot, and the paint job... forget about it, incredible.
The Chevy Volt looks like the Camaro, here are some snaps:
http://www.taxicabs.com/autoshow/chicago2007/Chevy/Volt/
Dave
All new concept cars must be designed by people from Michelin or other tire companies.
Both cars look kinda mean and well modern and should sell well. With some tweaking, still think the Solstice Coupe could have also been a Camaro or Firebird. As for gas mileage, I can only assume they will have to lighten the New Camaro with aluminum and/or plastics, and some smaller alloy wheels. Aren't we close to new gasoline standards, and now have $3.40 a gallon gas. What happens in a couple of years? While it is good to see the name back, I hope that the engine, transmission and weight allow the car to be around over some years to come once introduced. Looks like a car some people are gonna really like.
While the door sill height is always going to be a bit higher in a sports car, other than Miatas, I am thinking just from the photos that the New Camaro is overdoing the chop top theme, and will look blocky. It is like there becomes too much nearly flat surface area on the sides of these new cars, with the smallish windows and lower top, it has that look to it more like it was a chop-top Mercury. A Pony car to me should allow for an occasional elbow out, as slow cruising along the shore line just feels - well is better that way. I realize today most people drive with windows up and air on, as I really do most of the time. But by gosh, a Pony car, like a sports car should have its traditional cruising too. If they insist of high doors, then how about a angle cut, like the Celica and a Corvette has to take some of the bulk away, give you some view of the asphalt racing by, and maybe even get an elbow out, if lucky.
One final question. How many people prefer to see some hood up front? Seems like the last generation of Camaro was one of the first to have a totally disappearing front hood from view. Now, my Honda Accord seems to have nothing beyond the wipers, unless I was to move that seat pretty darn high up. Maybe that was part of the success of the Stang? Don't get me wrong, the last generation Camaro is a thing of beauty. A third generation Camaro has hood showing, but I was leery of the build quality. Wonder if many can be found in excellent condition?
Loren
-Jim
The New Camaro would look hot, if they lower the beltline, take five to six inches off the width, and don't go crazy on the wheel sizes. Use 17" for the V6 and 18" on the V8 beef model. As for muscle cars, they are the additional cars in every model. The Mustang, Camaro, Barracuda, Challenger and such were first a Pony Car, and secondly a muscle car in a modified version of the car. A Pontiac GTO came from more humble, or less aggressive origins.
Of the GM cars made of steel, the '69 Camaro is still perhaps the most perfect an effort to day. Perfect in form, such a lovely gal. For some reason, I always think of Camaro as the pretty gal, and Mustang was more that mean guy, the junkyard dog. The AMX, 'Cuda and Challenger are most excellent as well. Would like to see the Corvair Monza return. I owned a Miata for three years (may get another again some day) and it has that good looks, low cost and let's play attitude.
Loren
P.S. I did own a '65 & '85 Mustang
so yeah.....lol, anyone wanna help????? You can email me at: IllluvUalways78@yahoo.com
why don't you just keep your camaro and I will keep driving my chevy silverado and corvette...I won't really care in 2010...keep it....oh and drive it yourself!!!