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  • mako1amako1a VirginiaPosts: 1,775
    There it is, the MB I like, the second one in white.

    I think it's a SEL 450 maybe 72-76 or something close to that.

    What I like is the dip top. That lower in the center than the edges

    that makes it stand out from the rest. Nice

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    edited December 2012
    Here's something I got off the Mercedes Benz Club of America's site regarding styling and future models in the E Class:

    Mercedes plans big changes for '14 E class
    Dec 03, 2012

    LOS ANGELES -- With the rapid pace of technology, Mercedes-Benz says it no longer can rely on relatively minor midcycle changes for key models. So the E-class freshening planned for next year will be more extensive than usual, with major sheet metal and interior changes, said Steve Cannon, CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA.

    The 2014 E-class family, including a sedan, station wagon, coupe and convertible, will go on sale next summer.

    Cannon said the luxury market is changing because buyer "expectations are being driven by consumer electronics, and its rapid pace of new product introductions.

    "The ability to just keep the product going for seven years with just minor tweaks is a strategy we have gone away from," he said.

    So, there may be significant changes - making it possible for yet another sales story next year - you can never tell!

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  • mako1amako1a VirginiaPosts: 1,775
    future models in the E Class:

    Is the E class the one they refer to as the "Baby Benz"?

    ps Everything I know about MB came from watching Frazier on TV

    The one where their plumber had a nicer Benz than Niles.

    2013 Mustang GT, 2006 Silverado 2500 LT HD, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    it's a SEL 450 maybe 72-76 or something close to that.

    Close, actually it is a 1976 Mercedes-Benz 450SL C107(not sure what C 107 is)

    Seems it is for sale for $27000!
    Link 76 Mercedes 450SL

    I like that roof line too, and the squared off lines. The red one doesn't look as good.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    I found this car which is supposed to be a 2014 E Class, but the site kind of froze my computer. I think it was speedlux.com - I got out of it but I wouldn't suggest going on it. If this is a 2014, which they claim it is, it doesn't look that radically different to me.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    Is the E class the one they refer to as the "Baby Benz"?

    No, mako, it isn't. Back in 1987 or thereabouts, they came out with a 190E which everyone called a "baby Benz" which is exactly what it was at the time. My wife dove that and I had an 300E.

    Now, the C Class is considered the baby Benz, but they are supposed to come out with an A Class which would then be the baby.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    I found this car which is supposed to be a 2014 E Class, but the site kind of froze my computer.

    Yes, that's it. Notice the headlights and the rear quarter panel. Big changes inside, as well. I thought they were doing away with the stay hood ornament though.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,983
    Amen to that. I never know what imid's posts are saying, but I love reading them. It makes me feel as if I'm doing something important and worth while. I have actually printed off some of his posts to show to repairmen. If I can't talk intelligently, I at least want them to know that I have very bright friends.

    Richard
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,977
    Mike - my parents had the same car. A 1990 300E was my Mom's daily driver. For my 16th birthday, my parents gave me my very own set of (genuine MB) keys.

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  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 6,065
    edited December 2012
    I got my wife a brand new 1990 300 E back in 1990. It was a 6 cylinder. Small car that drove like a much bigger car. She kept it for 5 years. Still a record. It was a very good car, but my favorite MB was a 1978 240 D that I bought used in 1980. Loved that car. We had some really cold winters for a couple of years back then and I had to use my wife's hair dryer to thaw out the fuel lines a couple of times.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    I got my wife a brand new 1990 300 E back in 1990. It was a 6 cylinder. Small car that drove like a much bigger car. She kept it for 5 years. Still a record. It was a very good car, but my favorite MB was a 1978 240 D...

    In 1987, I owned a new MB 300 SDL. It had the diesel with a trap oxidizer to stop the black smoke out of the exhaust. It was a huge car - same body as the 560 SEL and 420 SEL, but it was a diesel. Great car on the summers, but those winters in Chicago played havoc with the ability to start. Sometimes it took 70-80 seconds until the glow plug could start the engine when it was below 0 degrees F.

    I also leased a 300 E in 1991 in San Diego and kept that car for 5 years, believe it or not. Only car I kept that long in my life. Great car, never had a problem with it.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,977
    My parents kept that 300E for 7 years & over 135,000 miles. It was my Mom's daily driver for 5 of those 7 years. In 1995 she leased a Dodge Stealth R/T (not a turbo). When they sold the 300E back in 1997, I went with the man who bought it on a test drive. I remember telling him everything I knew about the 300E. When he pulled back into the driveway, he popped the hood and asked if I had a flashlight. I said: "Sure, but if you are going to look for the head gasket it has been replaced;)

    The guy bought the car. He commented to my Mom about how he was impressed by what I knew about the car. She said to me: "Bradd, do you know what this man does for a living?"

    Me: "No clue."

    Mom: "He's an assistant service manager at the MB dealer."

    So like I said, Mom had the 300E from 1990 - 1997. A Stealth from 1995 - 1998, a 1998 CLK 320, a 2002 Audi A6 3.0 Quattro, 2005 BMW 530i, 2008 BMW 328xi, and her current 2011 Porsche Cayenne that will be 2 years old on Tuesday with over 45,000 miles on the odometer.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    edited December 2012
    A 1990 300E was my Mom's daily driver.

    1990 300E is another example that shows good design is timeless. That Mercedes model still looks good today.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    edited December 2012
    but my favorite MB was a 1978 240 D

    1978 240 D was also a great classic design that looks good today.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    edited December 2012
    In 1987, I owned a new MB 300 SDL.

    Those were pretty big, still, great looking car. There is one on Kijiji (like Craigs list) for $3200! Probably the depreciation isn't too bad considering the price you paid way back then.

    This I believe is similar but may not be the diesel model...may be one or two years different.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,966
    edited December 2012
    Here is a picture of a nice Pagoda roof model

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  • mako1amako1a VirginiaPosts: 1,775
    You captured two of my favorites in one picture, explorer!

    Yep, that's the MB roof, and next to it is a 70-73 Olds Cutlass.

    I had a 71 Cutlass Supreme Convertible in Mint Metallic Green

    with the same interior as the pic, but with factory wheels that

    I think looked better than the shiny spokes. Only car I ever owned

    for almost 6 years. Great car.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    This I believe is similar but may not be the diesel model...may be one or two years different

    That is the exact car I owned in the 300SDL version - huge car inside and out. Even had foot rests in the back seat for the rear passengers.

    The color I had was called "smoke silver", which is similar to 2009's pewter metallic with brown leather interior. What a tremendous road car - take it up to 80 mph and it just sat back on it's chassis and road smooth as silk - but you still had the sporty ride and sport handling - way back when you could feel the road under you and in the steering. They don't make them like that anymore, unfortunately.

    I bought the car new from the general manager of a Mercedes dealer in the western suburbs of Chicago whose kid went to my school. I paid invoice for the car which was $47,000 - MSRP was about $59,000. Those were the days when there was a 20% profit margin in the Benz line. Not any more!

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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,033
    I had a 71 Cutlass Supreme Convertible in Mint Metallic Green

    I had a 72 Cutlass S (hand me down) hardtop coupe that was painted Gulf Green Metallic.
  • mako1amako1a VirginiaPosts: 1,775
    edited December 2012
    Not really comparable to today's cars, but back then the Rocket 350

    really was a Rocket. Better than Chevy, Pontiac, Buick and Caddy of

    the same time period. Handling wasn't bad either for a heavy car.

    (Exempting the Z28 350 LT1 with solid lifters and wild factory cam)

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  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 6,065
    I just realized that the car I bought my wife in 1990 was actually a 190E 2.6, not a 300E. Too many numbers to keep track of, plus I'm old, so I'm entitled to screw up now and then.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    edited December 2012
    I bought my wife in 1990 was actually a 190E 2.6, not a 300E.

    For me, the 190E is one of the best designed cars ever. This is a 1993 model, the 190s last year. I like the squared off lines and the large windows. I like the sculpted trunk too.

    These cars were designed before air drag numbers became so important, and cars became all rounded edges.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,914
    edited December 2012
    Why would you say the "Rocket" 350 was a "better" engine than the other GM engines were at that time.

    I've owned all of those cars and I would respectifully disagree with you.

    " Rocket" was simply a marketing name although a '49 Bubble Coupe was a car to reckon with at the time. I know my GTO would eat a 442 alive!
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    edited December 2012
    I know my GTO would eat a 442 alive!

    You are 100% correct, isell, since I owned a 1966 GTO coupe, Hurst 4 speed on the floor, and the big engine. I remember drag racing an Olds 442 down Route 110 in Huntington, Long Island, New York, back in those days and I left him in the dust.

    It was, without doubt, one of the fastest cars I ever owned. Fire Engine Red, Black interior, and all muscle. Nothing could beat it off the line except a Corvette.

    In 1967, I was T-Boned in the GTO, and it was a total loss. I went out the very next week after getting our of the hospital and bought a racing blue Corvette Stingray Coupe (fastback) with a 427 with 435 hp and a Muncie 4 speed with lock out reverse. Now that was the fastest car on the road at that time. It even ate GTO's, lol.

    But, yes, for a stock muscle car, the GTO was "boss" in those days.

    I remember that the side GTO emblems would say "7 Litres" I believe. Wasn't it a 389 c.i.d. engine with 2 four barrel carbs from Rochester? I think it generated (in the old horsepower lingo) 400 hp. I believe the GTO I had came in on special order with a high speed rear end for improved "off the line" performance.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,914
    Well, a "high speed" rear end would cause the opposite. Higher and quietier highway speeds. For off the line performance you needed a low ratio.

    Your '66 GTO had a 389 engine. If it had a 4BBL, it had 335 H.P.. there was never a 2 4BBL option but you could get a 360 H.P. version that used three 2 BBL carbs.

    I once whipped a 442 with my '62 Impala. It had a 300 H.P. 327 engine and a Powerglide.

    327 Chevies weren't to be messed with and they could and would give a GTO a close race.

    Maybe the hottest of all were the Buick Skylark Gran Sports.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,807
    edited December 2012
    "...it sounds confusing..."

    Well actually I do know what you're talking about in theory. The practice of setting that up would be a nightmare for me though. I know how a lot of things like car systems are suppose to work but the actual choice of which screw to turn or which component to install baffles me sometimes. Electronics in particular make me crazy because I can't see where the electrons are going as opposed to a mechanical system where I can see how gears turn and fuel flows. :confuse:

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    Well, a "high speed" rear end would cause the opposite. Higher and quietier highway speeds. For off the line performance you needed a low ratio.

    What I meant by high speed was that it had a low ratio rear end. I special ordered that right from the manufacturer. I just was not specific enough - my apologies.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,807
    "...the only thing I know about links..."

    Now I feel better too. Even I can post links because I had my son show me. I got the hang of it about the third time he muttered something about 'stupid old people'. :sick:

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,624
    next time he mumbles that, mumble back "out of the will".

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 4,215
    Every year at this time, many resolve to change their lives for the New Year for the better "or" help others achieve similar improvement goals. Given an opportunity to help others, it makes each of us stronger, more empathetic for others, and helps us to become better human beings.

    Since I cannot leave the house for long periods of time due to my Dad and the care he needs, I've come up with an idea that all of us could benefit from - to help each other achieve a personal goal to improve the quality our lives.

    Here are some examples of what I have in mind:

    *To help one or more of our fellow posters stop smoking...
    *To help one or more of our posters lose weight to add years to his life span...
    *To help another poster to deal better with life's frustrations...
    *To assist another poster to curtail or eliminate a bad or unhealthy habit...
    *to help another poster stop buying so many new cars (ha, ha, ha)...

    These are just a few ideas I had and I was wondering if there was enough interest to perhaps accomplish this. Of course, this forum is not the place for serious problems to be aired, but perhaps there are some things we, as a group of caring guys and gals, can do to help others accomplish something. Then, we could get weekly assessments on the progress each is making to achieve a goal.

    Any interest in this or should I just "stifle"?

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