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I'm not an auto expert by any means, but I get the strong feeling that 07 Navi's are selling REAL CLOSE to invoice if not BELOW invoice. The 08's are a bit higher but not by much. Lincoln currently has some good incentives on the truck. Check out Lincoln's website and put in your zip for the latest incentive info -- if not search these boards for "carman" and he'll give you the latest specials.
Bottom line, I think you can get a VERY good deal on these trucks now -- and the quality is impressive. Go for it, and good luck!!!
That's because the LX570, like the GMT900s, uses a solid rear axle. Consequently, there is no room for the folding third seat. The upcoming Sequoia will have an independent rear suspension and thus a folding rear seat. It isn't clear yet when the new Sequoia will be released -- calender 2008 or 2009.
1. Dealer replaced tire pressure sensors. The sensor light was still on after leaving the dealership and he said the vehicle needed 200-300 miles of driving before they would reset. Does that sound right?
2. When I get out of the car, the rear passenger doors remain locked, even after the car is shut off unles i manually go and unlock the doors by pressing the key remote or the unlock switch inside. Child safety locks are NOT on. Adults can't exit the rear seat until I unlock the doors for them. Seems rediculous. Anyone experiencing the same thing?
Thanks.
I've seen several sites suggesting that the new SYNC system IS available on my truck.
All of the "official" SYNC stuff I can find on the web suggests that it is not. Calling the dealership will probably hopeless and I don't want to go in just to ask a question.
My instruction manual doesn't mention SYNC at all.
Can anyone confirm if SYNC is, in fact available on the 2008 Navigator? If so, how do I activate it, and if not, can I have it installed?
Thanks to all "ford folks" who help out around here!!
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Driving impression-- whisper quiet and ultra smooth. No steering wheel vibrations at all -- even at high speeds. I don't know how they could make this truck any quieter or smoother feeling on the road. Nice!
Acceleration -- the 300 horses seem fine to me. I never feel like I need more juice -- the truck responds nicely to my foot. I get around 11-14 MPG. Filling up the beast from empty costs over 80 bucks -- regular gas. However, if you're going to complain about gas prices, I don't recommend you get a full size SUV.
SYNC -- I am a little annoyed that SYNC was not made available for the 08 model -- and upgrading does not seem to be possible. I miss bluetooth.
Rearview camera -- nice and USEFUL feature on the rearview mirror. I can see the logic of putting in the rearview mirror, but the image is a little small though -- I would've preferred it on the nav screen.
Brake dust -- HUGE improvement over the '03 model I had a few years ago. The 20 inch chrome wheels stay VERY clean. The little brake dust that does accumulate is a very fine, grayish color that can hardly be seen from a few feet away. I want to thank the folks at ford for fixing that problem. My '03 Gator had a horrible break dust problem -- the rims would become black with soot after a day or two of normal driving.
Parking sensors -- FORD.... PLEASE PUT PARKING SENSORS IN THE FRONT END OF THIS TRUCK. I'm always scared that I'll hit the car or wall infront of me when parking. The large, tall hood makes it very difficult to gauge distances infront of you. The rear sensors/camera combo are GREAT!
Keys: This truck still uses the conventional key plus key fob system. I hope Ford considers putting in a "smart key" option on future gators. Not having to pull out a key or key fob to open/lock the doors plus turn on the truck would a very nice and useful feature for me. My old Lexus LS 430 with smart key spoiled me rotten!
Styling -- Inside:
Very luxurious, high quality "looking and feeling" materials throughout the cabin. Everything is well laid out and the center console is pure ART. The seats are thick and fat with a nice leather feel.
I'm not crazy about the square instrument gauges though. I would also prefer a more "lexusish" gear shifter -- it's just a personal preference, but I like the thinner, wood knob, zig zag design of other lux cars/trucks. Also, a power telescoping steering wheel (power tilt is there) should've been included.
Outside:
I had to convince myself to like the front end. I can certainly see why some say the front resembles a shaver or cheese grater! It's one of those unconventional looks though, that with time, grew on me. The rear end is okay, it's just a big square flat butt, nothing special or horrible about it.
The power folding running boards, power liftgate, and power fold flat third row continue to be amazing features that you quickly learn to take for granted. When you try out other trucks without these features you'll find it very hard to see yourself living without them.
Overall impression -- I could not find another full size lux SUV that offered the room and the luxury that the gator does. Mechanically, the truck has been rock solid so far and it seems like Ford has really taken their "quality is job one" motto seriously. These trucks always seem to be discounted quite heavily, too - -so the price resprensts a decent value.
To me, the Escalade looks nicer, but the third row is a joke and a deal breaker for me. The Mercedes GL looks fantastic, but the third row is too small -- even though it folds flat. The infiniti QX is a real contender -- great third row, lots of techno goodies, and a very nice, recently updated interior...but I think the exterior styling is a mess. That truck looks like it was pasted together in three seperate blocks -- and the front is even more of an "aquired taste" than the gator.
Overall, I'm happy with the Navigator. For those price shopping, I got the 4X2 version with the elite package and 20 inch chromes. Got it on a 24 month lease (getting new cars every couple of years is my only vice )), it all came out to a little less that two grand to start and eight hundred bucks a month for two years. These trucks are in plentiful supply so you probrably could do better with stronger negotiation. Local ads in my area have the truck leasing for 39 months at $600 per month plus tax with a TRUE sign and drive. I doubt you get the elite package and the chromes for that price though.
Okay, enough rambling..... I hope some nugget in this LONG post helps someone.
Oh, and host, how about changing the name of the thread to "2007 and newer Navigators" or something like that?
Take care all!!
Thanks for the hint, and thanks for the review!
Thanks
Troy
I would add to your review the absence of a cabin air filter. To me, this oversight is not befitting a luxury vehicle of this class.
I like and use the pen clips on the sides of the holder, though.
Why design a tissue box holder that won't hold any typically found tissue boxes -- I don't know.
Ford folks in here... any hints?
Now the Escalade is the vehicle Lincoln is trying to measure up too? What happened there? FWIW I think the Escalade is a better vehicle, even the 1st one. I'll probably never own one, but only because It'll be years before I can think about owning one and I would much rather own something a little more practical.
Is this true?
These have to be some of the toughest models to move right now. Very few people actually need the capabilities of the very largest SUVs, and if you don't there are many compelling CUVs out there with greater refinement, about as much usable room and better mpg, Ford provides these two models with only one thirsty and relatively weak (to the class) engine choice, not to mention the dated styling. They could probably close off production for most of the rest of the year and not lose any more $$$ than they are now.
By the way.. the Navi has been a GREAT ride so far. I am giving her up this summer at lease end. Has anyone heard if they are still making these puppies?
Did you know that the navigator has an independant rear axle?
Nobody NEEDS a home over 100,000 dollars either! We dont need shore houses either. So we should get rid of them all right? I am sure that Cadillac has a whole bunch of irrational purchasers just like YOU!
dont be ashamed
just dont buy it! duh
I love it!
If there is a range rover in it-forget it-they suck.
MDX? Too small -not in the same category.
I need to tow big! That means mdx, and range rover is out.
There are a lot of factors, besides those magazines get free trips and all kinds of perks, and it is their job-I would not trust them-BELIEVE in yourself! Test drive and buy what YOU like.
Cadillac and Lincoln are very comparable. This is not rocket science.
My parents where in a bad accident with their cadillac and the on star agent was arguing with them about their location-they where in error by 100 miles!
How often are you in an accident where NO one is around? And everyone has a cell phone anymore. Plus it cost money for the service-useless. I would never use it.
Oh I left my keys in the car-thanks on star-that was worth a few hundred bucks a year!!:)
large chrome wheels on an suv are counter intuitive-they look stupid
You dont even own any of these-how can you comment on them if you dont own them?
I test drove the Navigator one time, and I was sold immediately. Tight steering almost as good as the BMW. Super smooth suspension. Very quiet interior. Interior was built much better. WAY better vehicle than the Cadillac.