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1) TMV includes TTL or not?
I also checked the edmunds TMV and it is arround $17k. But my understanding is that the TMV does not routinely include the tax, title and document fees. If it is true, the out of door price would still be close to $19k.
2) Is sales tax for car purchase deductable in California?
Can you or anyone confirm that? Thanks.
Jason
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act permits taxpayers to take a deduction for state and local sales and excise taxes paid on the purchase of new cars, light trucks, motor homes and motorcycles. The deduction is available on new vehicles purchased from Feb. 17, 2009, through Dec. 31, 2009. In states that don't have a sales tax, the law provides a deduction for other taxes or fees paid. This deduction is available whether or not a taxpayer itemizes deductions on Schedule A.
The deduction is limited to the taxes and fees paid on up to $49,500 of the purchase price of an eligible vehicle. The deduction is reduced for joint filers with modified adjusted gross incomes (MAGI) between $250,000 and $260,000 and other taxpayers with MAGI between $125,000 and $135,000. Taxpayers with higher incomes do not qualify.
Taxpayers who make qualifying new vehicle purchases this year can estimate the deduction with the help of IRS Publication 919, How Do I Adjust My Withholding? Lines 10a to 10k on Worksheet 10 take into account purchases above the $49,500 limit, as well as the reduced deductions for taxpayers at higher income levels.
I actually dont plan on buying until the middle of December, when I move back to the USA, but I thought I would get a feel for what the market is like.
This was the best offer so far:
2010 Honda Fit base model:
selling price - 16,007.00
tax - 1296.57
registration - 283.50
doc fee - 399.00
Total OTD - 17,986.07
What do you guys think? good deal? or keep looking? Any predictions on how the offers will look around Dec 18th?
Can I renegotiate after I put the deposit?
So if you are getting your vehicle for $245 under MSRP, it is a couple of hundred dollars over Invoice, which is a very good deal. I don't think you need to lose any sleep over this.
That almost sounds too low to me...what do you guys think?
$16410 -MSRP
$16456-(Out of the door price) Internet special including the manufacturer destination charge, South Carolina sales tax and registration, our $199 dealer closing fee, and Honda's Protection Package.
is this a good deal?How much lower can I negotiate?
This is my first car buying experience ever and any suggestions would be appreciated.
thanks.
Here are the links from Edmunds and KBB
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/honda/fit/101061260/prices.html
http://www.kbb.com/new-cars/honda/fit/2009/pricing-report?id=240673
1)Why are they different?
2)Can the dealer sell the car less than the invoice price?
3)In my case, dealer was showing the price from KBB and offering me the mid value of invoice price and MSRP. Can I ask the dealer for the price lower than the invoice price?
There, it will add the destination charge... and the invoice prices will match.
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I'm considering waiting until the last week or two in december- do you think it's worth waiting until then on such a low margin car like this?
I just paid $16,190 plus doc fees of $325 and Maine tax of 5%
good luck
so far i like my fit
If anybody recently bough fit sports or sports with navigation, please post the price
Then I added 2 years to the 3 year honda care and got gap insurance - that put me back about another $1500
so my car quote of 17386, which I thought was about right on and didn't haggle over, by the time I drove it home, I was all in at about 19,500.
The art of the sale I suppose.
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my sister just bought a 2010 Fit Base AT; OTD $18,500 yesterday. This was in the Bay Area. I am sure this is not that great of a deal, but I searched and did not see much inventory close by (at least at the time of search). She really needed a car (old car broke down) and can't wait. So oh well.
Tax: $954
Doc fees: $299
Title/Reg: $125
Total: $16677
This was in Tewksbury, Massachusetts (MA)
What do you guys think? Good or bad deal?
Is $19K already a good deal fo this vehicle? No dealer added options. Anybody bought this car for $18,500 OTD price?
Should I wait until the last couple weeks of December?
I just bought a base AT, at $17,070 OTD :
$14,800
$710 dest
$1085.70 tax (NJ 7%) - The advantage of buying this month is that this tax is a deduction on 2009 taxes.
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$16,595.70
(Some of the B.S. starts now)
$7.50 Tire tax fee
$6 online motor vehicle fee
$211 registration fee (dealer tried to charge $296, but supposedly they'll refund overcharge; I doubt it though, they'll show it as their service fee or something I'm sure)
$3 Temp sticker fee
$250 doc fee
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$17,070 or so;
This paragraph explains the doc fee, which shows you how they can rip you off:
"It is a fee charged by the Dealer in an amount that covers costs and reflects the value of the benefit provided by the service. In some cases, the fee includes some services that may be optional or may be performed by the customer."
The vehicle price is $17209
(It includes some extras such as wheel locks, rear bumper applique, cargo tray & door edge film).
Sales tax is $1683 (9.75%)
The rest ($379) is paperwork, title, registrations etc etc
Went through the Costco Auto Buying Program
Paid $100.00 over the invoice they showed me.
Added the rear bumper applique and the cargo tray.
Total before taxes - $17645.50
Document Prep Fee - $55.00
Sales Tax for all the above - $1725.80
Optional DMV electronic filing fee - $29.00
Then I got the Honda Care Extended Warranty for 8 years 120,000 miles - $1945.00
I think I totally got taken for this one. i showed them a quoted price from warrantydirect.com for 6 years 100,000 miles for ~ ~1000.00 which includes coverage if a covered part breaks a non-covered part and if a non-covered part breaks a covered part. They went through the sales pitch of "oh these types of warranties don't get honored. they are out to make money etc." I asked if I could get the honda care extended warranty later so I could think about it and compare the contracts and the salesperson said "No. Then the car is considered used."
They dropped the price for the 8 yrs, 120,000 warranty about $200.00 dollars.
What do you all think?
Thanks.
No trade in - I sold my 2003 Civic Hybrid on AutoTrader for $5200.
I added $1720 for 8 years of Honda Care.
The dealer offered me the Volkswagen van for the same price. However living in urban America I did not want the liability of negotiating the bus through the pre-automobile urban architecture of my community.
The negotiating terms were:
1. Fit 2 road bikes vertically so that they would not require the bikes to be laid on top of each other.
2. Low operating cost.
I did not negotiate price. I did negotiate financing at 3%.
After meeting basic requirements, I wanted the features that come standard on Volkswagen e.g. electronic stability control. That meant springing for the maxxed out Fit.
If you do a search online for HondaCare, just google it, many online Honda dealers, real Honda dealers, are selling the 120K/8year for under $1000. I paid $895 for mine, I had my dealer price match the online price. At $1800 for the warranty, its just cheaper to fix the car yourself. The online dealers are selling real HondaCare, not a 3rd party warranties. Also, you can buy the HondaCare warranty at anytime up to when the regular warranty expires.
My question is: will a dealer take my '01 Z3 as a trade on a Fit? And, will they roll any negative equity into the Fit? The Z has very low (52K miles) no wrecks,rolls,or floods.
My ultimate goal is to get down to one vehicle. I'd prefer to trade the Accord Coupe in and sell the Z myself, but again the neg eq is too high.
Thanks for listening. Appreciate any and all feedback/advice. SP
Wrong car to try to do that!
Best,
Selvan
Price $ 14007
Tax $930
Title/tag $400
Dec fee $599
OTD $16000. (Security/Keyless and Armrest installed at my request).
I think it's a much better (and cheaper!) option to go with a Garmin, etc. and get a Pro Clip mount to attach to the dash.
Lithia Honda in Medford, Oregon.
Jim
Jim