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BMW 335i 2007+

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,366
    I'm not in the market at the moment, but if I were, I'd go for a 328i with the sport package & nothing else.

    I'd go with a 128i. Equipped the way I want(no sunroof, manual seats, M Sport, Cold Weather, Convenience, and H-K) it would have an MSRP of around 36K.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,461
    HaVe you thought of putting your name on a list for a 1 series M? I'm sure you know Joseph that the N54 Twin Turbo engine in your departed 335i is now a single scroll turbo N55 making the same hp/torque numbers.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,506
    My understanding is that the 1 series M will have an uprated N54 -
    not an N55...

    http://www.bimmerfile.com/2010/10/12/new-details-emerge-on-the-1m/

    "HaVe you thought of putting your name on a list for a 1 series M? I'm sure you know Joseph that the N54 Twin Turbo engine in your departed 335i is now a single scroll turbo N55 making the same hp/torque numbers. "
  • jimbresjimbres Posts: 2,025
    I'd go with a 128i. Equipped the way I want(no sunroof, manual seats, M Sport, Cold Weather, Convenience, and H-K) it would have an MSRP of around 36K.

    Sounds good, but I can't warm up to the 1. Here in the NYC metro area, it's become something of an affluent chick's car - something that Daddy will buy for you if you make dean's list. Too bad. It's not the car's fault.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,461
    You are right - I meant the 2011 335 has the N55, not the 1 series M which will come with the N54

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,461
    Joseph - I think the price differential between your 2008 and the 2011 is due to the fact that the M Sport Pkg is more expensive than the regualr sport pkg.

    Just built my own 328i Sedan. I saw a Vermillion Red 328i Xdrive coupe today that was very sexy. With the aforementioned Vermillion Red paint, black leatherette, sport pkg, iPod, Sirius, Moonroof, Bluetooth, Xenon, & Smart Phone Integration the MSRP swells to $41,225! Looks like I'm going to stick with the Prelude for a few more years until I can save some more dough:)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Wow. The 328i is a fantastic car, but it's not a $40,000 car.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,461
    I love the way the 328i drives even in its slowest & heaviest form. My Mom has an '08 328xiA she leased that goes back at the end of next month. Sparkling Graphite, Black Leather, Premium Pkg, Cold Weather pkg, Automatic, PDC, Sirius, Adaptive Xenon (No Nav & no Sport Pkg). 60,000 miles on the odometer. Front Brakes done @ 50K, Rear Brakes & Inspection II done @ 59K, Tires maybe a year or so old. I toyed with the idea of buying the car back from BMW if they would knock a whole lot of dough off the buy back. It is still solid, would make an excellent commuter sled, & help keep miles off my beloved Prelude (over 130K), but I think I'm going to pass.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 139
    edited November 2010
    nyccarguy,

    I believe the difference between sports pkg and m sports pkg is only $500. Even so, the minimal price delta between an 08 335 and 11 335 is at least 4k. (I'm talking otd incl tax, registration & doc fee). I've considered the 1M by the way, which will have a souped up N45 like the 335is. To me, both the 1M and 335is offer too little over a 335i, come too late relative to the up and comming 2012 335 sedan, and cost too much considering you might as well get the M3. They look like some sort of gimmick dreamed up by BMW marketing team. It is rummered that significant effort is being put into making the new 3 series lighter. This diminishes further, the whole point of the 1M IMO. It's clear that the 1M is more of a souped up 135 than a new 1 series. The 1M will have limited production as well, making people pay premium. You know, I don't like the steering wheel on the 1M by the way, too thick IMO, nor the steering feel of the M3 which is why I look mainly at a 335i sedan with regular sports package (which now comes with the old coupe's sports wheels). A down side to the 2011 335i coupe with sports package, is that now, it comes with some really boring looking wheels as one can see on bmwusa.com! My gosh, it is so obvious that BMW wants people to get the MSports for the 3coupe.
    The 1 series interior/exterior is sub-par compared to the 3 and I doubt that even the 1M will be better. Plus, they're supposed to reduce 3Series weight soon, and it makes more sense to wait for this. I am anxious to read more reviews for the 1M when it comes out. Like I said, in the meantime, I'm diggin my Mustang GT.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    I thought your main beef with the M3 was a lack of steering feel, relative lack of torque, and the hood bulge. Doesn't that pretty much sum up the pre-2011 Mustang GT?
  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 139
    in short yes, but as you know, pre-2011 Mustang GT cost less than Half of an M3.
    I paid about 30.5k out the door including extended warranty and full 100k maintaince, as well as ford racing parts suspenssion upgrade installed!
    The new 5.0 Stang costs at least 4k more than the old one from what I see.
    I'm happy with the older Stang since I expect no surprises in terms of reliability, the engine has been in production for nearly a decade. The Stang offers the absolute best bang for the buck in this economy, there's nothing that touches it. My tires are about worn out now after nearly 30k already, so I'm looking forward to upgrading to Eagle F1 Asymmetrics :shades:
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    edited November 2010
    Yeah, I like the Mustang too. I rented one when I was in So Cal on business recently and was impressed with the ride, power, and build quality. The V6 was plenty quick.

    I can only imagine how awesome the 2011 is - it's actually the first American car in many years that I would consider owning.

    On the other hand, I recently had the opportunity to get an extended test drive in an M3 - a proper one with 3 pedals. After the drive, I was ready to write a check on the spot - it's that good. It's the sport sedan that Porsche would build if they were inclined to build a sport sedan. I loved it.

    I've read about the 1M and really like the idea of it - I do think it's more than just a tarted up 135i, but the more I think on it, the more I'm convinced I don't like turbocharged engines. I've driven the 335i as well as the Audi A4 and no matter how quickly they claim to spool up, they just don't have the throttle response of a proper NA engine. Sucks the fun right out.

    Turbos are great for piston airplanes, but unless you live in Denver or Albuquerque, they don't belong in sports cars. That's my $0.02.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,366
    Turbos are great for piston airplanes, but unless you live in Denver or Albuquerque, they don't belong in sports cars. That's my $0.02.

    Agreed, my Mazdaspeed is borderline quick, but the power delivery can't hold a candle to a well designed NA motor. I'm looking to dump it for an E46 M3 or E39 M5...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    A Mazdaspeed for an M3...I'd say that's a good trade.

    E46's are downright cheap right now. Next to the E30, they're my favorite 3 Series.

    I've never driven an E39, but the 540i is also a great choice. I remember on a club drive a few years ago a guy following me in a 540i and he was on my bumper like crazy glue. His grip didn't surprise me as my M3 doesn't have tons of it, but his E39 was a monster powering out of corners. I asked him about his car later and he told me the horsepower gap between a 540i and M5 is basically closed with an aftermarket airbox (2 airboxes, actually) and a chip.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,461
    Saw a guy at the carwash yesterday with an. '02 E39 M5. Car had over 75,000 miles & looked honestly showroom new. Not a scratch. Silver/Black - beautiful.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,366
    E46's are downright cheap right now. Next to the E30, they're my favorite 3 Series.

    A dealer in Chicago had a 2004 with a Brembo big brake kit, Dinan Stage 1 suspension, 4:10 rear gears, and Euro headers/cats. And, as icing on the cake, it had cloth manual seats and no sunroof. It sold the day before I was supposed to look at it... :cry:

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    edited November 2010
    I can almost imagine the original owner walking into a dealership and asking if they have one like that on the lot!

    That's a car someone has to special order and put a hefty deposit on because the dealer is scared to get stuck with it.

    Sounds like a nice car - just the way I'd order one. And with some tasteful and thoughtful mods (there are way too many E46's with 20" wheels, wings, and 2" drops). Too bad you missed out on it.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,665
    I like all the modern turbo (SC) engines; they feel more lively than NA engines (even low end)

    A 335i has way more power, especially down low, than my IS350...not until I wring it out to 4K rpm.

    Even if you take a lower level vehicle, like a VW 2.0T compared to a TSX 4cyl. The power output is similar but I like the feel of the 2.0T.

    For me anyway...it's almost a reversal of the 80's turbos...the NA engines feel mediocre below 3500 rpm, and the turbos have all the torque.

    It maybe a combination of the electronics getting in the way (as in my IS350) and heavier vehicles...but all things being equal, I'd take the blown engine.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    I'm just curious to know, did your Mom have any troubles with the Run Flat Tires during her lease or is she still on them now?
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,461
    She did not have any problems with them, although she did have to replace them once because they wore out. Both of my parents have been saying that the car rides too harsh for them - They've driven German cars since 1990 and like the firm ride. My Dad swears it is the run flat tires. I think it is part the fault of the run flats and part their car before this was an '05 E60 530iA. My Dad had 2 X5 Sports & neither of them rode as harshly as my Mom's 3.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • pdude1pdude1 Posts: 47
    I've heard the same thing from my passengers on the 335i. Especially those riding in the back that it's uncomfortable and that it's a rough ride.
  • DAVEM42,
    What was the result, what did they find? I girlfriends 07 335i just went up in flames at a stop light. Id be intereested to hear what BMW had to say
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,366
    You DO realize that you are replying to an 11 month old post, correct?

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

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