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Long story short, I seriously doubt VW is going to pay to fix your engine.
Keep in mind that after my original "oil leak fix", I noticed the oil was low again and when I called the dealership that fixed this so called leak, I was advised that it is common for the car to burn through so much oil. I am not a mechanic but have driven enough cars to know that just simply doesn't sound right!
I am still 3 days into having the car at the dealership and still waiting to hear what they are "going to do".
If there is anyone else having these oil leak issues, please let's band together and pursue the class action suit that vwhell is suggesting!!! :mad: :confuse: :sick:
The thing is, your car has the old FSI engine, an engine that is well-known to "consume" oil. I said "consume" not burn. Why? Because the engine itself is pretty robust and doesn't seem to have an issue, that said, the PVC system has a few issues that *should be* well known and easily fixed by your dealership. That they misdiagnosed the issue when you dealt with the spark plugs is a red-flag. Furthermore, my guess is that they've misdiagnosed the oil in the turbo thing as well (although the low oil level in your car may have caused a premature turbocharger failure).
My advice to you is to get your car back from the dealership and find a competent mechanic that *really knows* the first generation 2.0T engine and have it fixed properly.
FWIW, franchise law being what it is here in the U.S., it is exceedingly difficult for VW to enforce any rules that would prod their dealership base to improve their competence. Filing a class-action law suit against VW would most likely be seen as irrelevant by the courts due to the fact that your issues are dealership based.
1) While it is true that VW needs to approve warranty repairs, it is also true that they base their decision on the dealership diagnosing the problem correctly. Unfortunately many VW dealerships seem to be rather incompetent when it comes to reading *and understanding* the TSBs published by VW and coming up with a correct diagnosis for (in this case) significant oil loss.
2) Pre-existing conditions are covered under a warranty even if said warranty has run out; just make darn good and sure that your dealership has documented the issue well before said warranty expiration.
3) When it comes to oil loss issues surrounding the 2.0T FSI engine (which was replaced with the clean-sheet redesign 2.0T TSI engine late in the 2008 model year, an engine that so far at least seems pretty tight from an oil loss perspective), there are a number of VW related forums and web sites that specifically discuss the issue. These sites are a great resource for owners to do some research that they can go to their dealerships and direct them where to look for the problem and/or prepare the owner to determine how much BS their dealer is giving them.
4) The oil loss issue with the FSI engines is not "just coming to light", it's been well known and well documented for several years now. It seems that the only folks still in the dark are the employees of many VW dealership service departments. :P
Thanks in advance
The oil has been changed twice or approx every 7500 miles. The low oil pressure light came on abut a month ago while driving. The oil level was checked
and it was fine but there was evidence of a small oil leak. Car was taken to an independent VW specialist and no problem was discovered. Oil light came on again last week and when the oil level was checked, there was nothing showing on the dipstick. Oil was added and taken for service and again no problem was detected. Today the car was taken to the used car dealer where it was purchased after the light coming on again and the dipstick showing no evidence of oil and we were told that the oil level was overfilled.
There is an extended warranty on the car, but the dealer is now saying it might not cover it because the oil level was too high.
Has anyone had trouble with the "disappearing oil level" issue?
Best of luck to your friend
From what I can understand, the 8 year warranty affects people who continue to use the "lower quality" petroleum based oil, while the 10 year extension will be available to those using the 502 (and keeping all of their records)! See if that's what you come up with. Meanwhile, we'll be visiting our dealership since the dreaded STOP Engine light came on this morning. Thank goodness I was still in our own driveway. Good luck. I'll try to give you more info as I get it.
You need to have your car inspected at a VW dealer Immediately! I have suffered through the dreaded oil sludge issue and it damaged different parts of my cars motor. Fortunately, the dealer was able to get VW to pay the $5,000.00 repair bill but that is due to the fact I had supporting oil change documents and it took 5 days just to get the approval. The OIL Warning light is nothing to mess with. I would not even drive the car to the VW dealer. Have it towed. After my oil warning light came on, I drove the car another 7 miles and that ended up wiping out the turbo charger.
Please get your car to the VW dealer immediately is all I can say!
Best of luck!
Hope this helps.
Does it make sense to stick full-synthetic oil in it (presuming I do not drive it - will the oil last longer)? Or just stick to synthetic blend? And which one is better?
: )
As I mentioned the car is 11 years old and 65K on it - and I have not observed any issues with engine.
But I went ahead and had them pour full synthetic this time.
I hope it does not for you and wish you the best. DO NOT ignore any oil warning light messages that occur. 99.9 percent of the time, there is a true problem and the warning light/message is not the result of a faulty sensor or sending unit on these cars.
Hoping to get an answer if you had a fix for your 06 passat oil consumption issue. I purchased a pre-owned 06 passat a few months ago with 80k miles on it. I am realizing the oil is empty on the two oil changes. My mechanic has used Kendall Oil. Does it meet the standards?
Want to know what you did to fix your car. My car is probably out of warranty at 80k miles.
Appreciate your time in reading and any response you are able to provide.
Thank you
Prasad
Want to know if there is a fix for the car. My car is probably out of warranty at 80k miles. What are my options?
Appreciate your time in reading and any response you are able to provide.
Shipo and others, appreciate your time for any help/responses...
1) No need to double post.
2) There is only one Kendall oil currently on the market which meets the VW 502.00 oil specification; GT-1® Full Synthetic Motor Oil, European Formula.
3) The first thing to address when confronting oil consumption issues is the PVC system; I no longer remember the specifics of which parts should be changed, but assuming you have no engine damage from running the engine with a low oil level, this fix should take care of the problem.
Also is it PVC system or PCV?
Google shows info for PCV valve only.
Thanks for clarifying.
Cheers!
1. The oil that I use on my 2010 Jetta and 2001 Passat that meets the VW specs is Mobile 1 Fully Synthetic "0W-40." I have had no problems using only this type of oil.
2. The engine on your 06 w/80k as well as most others will use some oil monthly. It is not uncommon for those engines with over 80k and especially over 100k to use a quart a month in some instances. Just a proven fact. You have to monitor your oil level closely. A half quest low will show about half full on the dipstick. A quart low on the dipstick will show no reading on the dipstick.
3. To determine if you have a major problem with maintianing your oil level, I strongly suggest you take your car to a trusted mechanic that specializes in VWs to ensure you get an appropriate evaluation of any issues. This will save you a bundle of money in the long run.
thanks for the response. i drove 750 miles and oil was about 1cm below the max line on the dipstick. how much is consumed?
there are no visible leaks per mechanic.
thx
I have spent some time and could not narrow down the parts that fall under this system. Anyone who has had a overhaul of PCV system, i am looking to get the necessary parts so I can order them? where to order would be helpful as well.
thanks in advance...
Cheers!
Can shipo/any one confirm if these are the parts they are referring to as a possible solution for oil burning issue?
http://www.europaparts.com/breather-update-kit-a4-b7-2-0t-early-vin.html
thx a lot.
cheers!
1) Sludge is on the inside of the engine; the engine can be completely caked in grease, grime and unspeakable crud, and still be pristine and sludge free inside.
2) Leaking oil is normal for a car of that age with 108 (thousand?) miles on it.
3) The virtually all of the 5W-30 synthetic oils out there are NOT certified to be VW 502.00 compliant; the question here is which 5W-30 did you have put in the car? Said another way, the oil in the car is most likely not appropriate for this application.
4) Mobil 1 0W-40 is a very good oil for this application (and the oil which I use in many of my cars), but not the only one.
5) Here is a link to the eighth post in this thread which I made over five years ago; most of what I wrote is still valid today (you can pretty much ignore any references to VW 503.01 oils and 507.00 oils aren't even mentioned): http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0aef02/7#MSG7
6) Here is a link to the latest list of approved VW/Audi oils: http://www.audiusa.com/etc/medialib/cms4imp/audi2/aoa/company/aoa-specific.Par.0- - - 023.File.pdf
As for the transmission, does the car have an automatic transmission or a manual? If a manual, leave it alone, if an automatic, then have the fluid drained and the filter replaced; do not under any circumstances let someone talk you into a transmission flush (just extra money to the "service provider", and potentially very damaging for the transmission).