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Here is what they found wrong.
1st, there was not enough padding in the rear portion of the drivers seat. It was about 3/4 thinner than the passenger's seat bottom? They added about 1" of foam under the rear section of the seat bottom.
2nd, the seat cover was not centered in the seat. It bunched up on the side tword the console. To be honest, I never really notice this. The guy managed to get it more or less centered when they put it back together. Again the passenger's seat did not have this problem. It looked like it was shifted about 1/2" off center when compared to the passenger's seat.
3rd, there was a little too much leather left on both seams where the two different color peices were sewen together. This was bunching up and was probably causing most of my discomfort. You could see the indention of this wad of leather in the foam pad. I am fairly sure that this is what was actually poking into my hip.
As near as I can tell, I can tolerate the seat now. It was more or less comfortable on the 1.5hr drive home. The seat bottom is a little harder where the padding was added. The upolstry guy said the leather would streatch a little and should soften up over time. He did say to keep the leather well conditioned for a few weeks.
It is my opinion that most of the discomfort I felt was due to poor workmanship on the seat bottom and the fact that the foam was too thin. I am not sure why the foam on the drivers side seat was so much thinner than the foam on the passenger's. I think it cause me to sink deeper into the seat than I should have. This cause the sides to fold in more and put more pressure on my hips.
For the heck of it, I sat in the Passengers seat for a little over an hour listening to the stereo system ( one of the reasons why I bought the car to start with ) It did not seem to bother me like the drivers seat did.
I hope this solves the issue and thought you guys might want to hear what I found...
I just ordered two for myself. Found an internet parts store selling it less than $43 price asked by Mazda dealer.
Will post an update when I get them.
The blind spot monitoring system, which is a new feature for 08 will be late availability.
Tahnks
After driving the CX-9 for a few days, I found the seat bottom too hard with all of the padding the the upostery guy added. I removed two layers of the material. This made the seat tolerable on my two hour drive today. However, it is still not comfortable to me.
It looks like it would cost several thousand to have the seat bottoms replaced with somthing that is comfortable to me and would matche the rest of the interior. Having an odd drivers seat would obviously Kill the resale value of the vehicle so a new interior is not really an option.
I will drive it for a while longer ( at least until the title shows up ) However, I will probably still have to sell the vehicle. The cost to do a proper upgrade will be about equal to what I would lose on trade.
I cannot see keeping this thing for the next four years ( max time allowed on my auto plan )
I think the biggest problem with the seats is the seam on the two tone leather seats. This rolled seam is very hard. I think a cloth seat or one with a single color side bolster would be fine. I stand my my warning that larger than normal people are likely to find these two tone leather seats to be uncomfortable. Please be careful if you intend to buy a CX-9 and you are an above average size. I would not want anyone else to go through this.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used CX-9? I am in the mood to make you a great deal...
P.S. Both the dealer and Mazda were FULLY aware of my problem. I explained it in great detail. Both told me that they were sorry, but were not willing to do anything to help. Both refused to have the seat taken apart and inspected. It cost me less than $100.00 so fighting with Mazda or the dealer would be a waste of my time...
thanks
So can anyone put all the changes and spec changes out here for the 2008 so we can check it all out or at least send us a link to these changes...I really am looking for the new engine to have improved fuel economy.
B.
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The dealer should be able to come up with the build specs but pricing isnt available yet. If you want to order one before there is pricing see if the dealer will agree to a percentage over invoice.
I decided to dig a little deeper into this problem that I am having with the seat. I took the seat completely apart over the weekend. I removed some of the batting that the upolstry shop put in. They had a little more in there than I tought they did. It made the seat bottom a little too hard for my tail. I covered the seat with some cheap vinyl material ( It was not pretty, but it was only a test )
However, without the rolled seam in the middle of the side bolster, I found the seat to be quite comfortable on a 2hr drive. So, having found the exact problem with the seat, I tried to find a possible solution without having to re-cover all of the seats.
I decide to cut a V shaped trough in the foam where the rolled seams run down the middle of the side bolsters. It was fairly easy to do with a sharp razor blade. This lets the seam press into the foam with little resistance and does not put much pressure on my legs and hips. It also does not change the apperarace of the seat at all. So far it seems to be working. It did not bother me at all today on two different 1hr trips. I may have found the solution to my problem. I wanted to post the info hear as this may be a fairly easy solution for anyone who may experiance the same issue ( too wide of a load for the seat :P )
I'll post again once I have some more seat time...
I wonder if the foam in the side bolster could be replaced by something more compliant (you'll lose that support when you burn through corners, but at least your thighs will be happy)...
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Was going to buy a new car soon but am very tempted to wait the 7 months before gladly disposing of my 7 yr old Landrover Discovery tank.
So far the groove that I cut in the foam seems to have worked well. I drove the vehicle for about 6hr last Thursday and the seam did not bother me much. There was one place in the seat that still bothered me a little and I removed the cover on that side and made the groove a little wider yesterday. It was more comfortable after I put it back together. I think this modification is going to completely solve my problem.
It is a shame that Mazda did not take my complaint seriously. This groove could be made into the mold used to form the seat cushion. It does not alter the appearance of the seat in anyway. A smaller person would never notice that the groove was there and a larger person, like me, would certainly find it to be more comfortable. However, they will not even let me speak to anyone at Mazda that might find the information useful.
I was going to take some pictures when I took the seat apart this weekend, but I dropped my camera on the garage floor and several internal parts are now external...
Maybe your letters should be directed highre up than the usual "district manager"....I am glad that you feel much confortable now..if any one desrevs it is YOU!...and pick up the external parts of the camera and take some pics...afterall aren't you the one that can fix just about anything?.....
When getting up to speed for merges you do have to floor it, but it responds so well and quickly when you do that. At those times the thought of "a little bit more power would be cool" does come to mind once in a while, but the sheer joy of driving the vehicle - the way it handles and its highly communicative steering - makes you instantaneously forget that
We picked up a new 07 GT AWD with Moonroof the other night and got in on the 5.9% financing from Mazda. I guess the promotion started the day we went to buy the car, so good timing on top of the S plan price we got.
Here in the DC area, it was impossible to find a GT AWD with just the moonroof and the Sand Interior. For those having trouble finding a loaded GT AWD, there are tons here with the black interior, most with the Assist Pckg and the Moonroof. We live in VA and had to trek up to MD to buy ours, as they were the only dealer that had the GT AWD in stock that we wanted. We did get the Copper Red color and those seem to be the hardest to find also.
For what I need, the car has plenty of power. When I want something fast for my commute, I'll pick up a Mazdaspeed 3.
(navigation and rear entertainment system with no moonroof)...and those 2 GS and GT will be only ones with the 3.7 liter engine
If it officially confirmed by Mazda, could someone please point me to it?
I saw another posting on mazda forums where someone claiming 300HP is confirmed. It appears both HP and no direct injection is all speculation at this point.
The slight bump in bore size is not going to add 27hp without any other changes to the intake, cyl heads, fuel injection, etc. The 300hp was speculation based on the 3.7L having Direct Injection. It will not, so the 300hp won't happen.
The engines should be in production already, as they ship them to Japan and then Mazda installs them in the CX-9s and ships them back to the US. Ford builds the engines and then Mazda tweaks them.
The CX-9, Edge, and MKX are all rated at 263 HP.
Find yourself a good auto upholstery shop. I literally had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM as you with my 2002 G20 w/Sport Package. I loved the 2 tone suede/leather seats -- and never realized on the 30 min test drive (when new) that the seams would KILL me on any drives longer than a hour.
The difference was that Infiniti was terrific, as was my dealer. My dealer went to bat for me and Infiniti agreed to pay the upholstery shop to re-sew the seam on my driver's seat. It cost a "whopping" $180 but it worked like a charm. I'm 6'3", 200lbs and the seat was a killer. My right leg in particular would go numb on long drives.
Here's what the shop did: they removed the seat bottom cover and pulled apart the seam -- it was rolled/raised, with the leather folded over/under itself to make a roll that ran the length of the seat on both sides and around the front (kind of like a border around the front/2 sides, about 2 inches from each edge). By completely pulling apart the seam, they were able to sew it FLAT -- no more raised edge.
You cannot really tell the difference between the 2 seats upon merely looking -- this guy even matched the stitch holes in the leather, so that it looked as if it had come from the factory that way. But, the comfort was improved about 1,000%!
Again, if you get someone that knows what they're doing, they'll understand the seam construction and be able to resew it for you -- and it will likely cost you only a few hundred bucks (at most), far less than selling your vehicle.
Good luck!
And BOO to Mazda for not taking the complaint of a customer seriously. Too many vehicles are made for the "average" person -- and folks that are tall/big just have to "make do" with what they come up with.
And how the heck are you supposed to figure that out in a test drive that may only last 20 or 30 minutes? If you could rent any vehicle ahead of time, that might help. But not many dealers are willing to give someone a car for an extended trip -- the only way you'd find out, as you did, was by sitting in that vehicle for a longer time.
2008 3.7 V6
273 HP @ 6250 RPM
270 TQ @ 4250 RPM
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