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Most Fit owners are getting MPG that's about the same as current Civics and Corollas, so that's what you should expect to get on average. Like all cars, some get better and some worse.
My Ford Freestyle, which is a pretty big vehicle and more spacious than a Rondo gets 20mpg around town driving and 26mpg highway, and up to 30mpg on the highway if I keep the speed under 65mph, so from my perspective I'd ask the question, what's wrong with the Rondo's MPG? It's doesn't get much better than my Freestyle.
The main reason the Fit won't get 50mpg on the highway like your old Civic is aerodynamics. The Fit is much taller as compared to older Civic Si...but then you'll find a lot more usable space in the Fit, plus it's a lot safer.
I'm not trying to defend the Fit's MPG, but just say that when making a buying decision based on MPG, you should use A LOT more sources than a few unhappy folks on edmunds. There are many car reviews that provide real-world MPG results, fueleconomy.com, and other sources on the internet.
If you do a lot of highway miles and you don't need the extra space of the Fit, then you might want to go with a Corolla or Civic instead of the Fit. But with the Fit, you may find that you use it instead of your Rondo (if you're only carrying 4 people) becuase the Fit can carry 4 just fine with quite a bit of stuff in the back.
My Fit MPG is betweeen the low and high 30s based on non-highway and highway use...yes, I'm only a single example, but I reflect more of what the average Fit owner is getting for MPG, and closer to the EPA estimate.
Another thing with the Fit is that the driving characteristics, steering, handling, etc are really great. You might want to look at the Mazda5. It's like your Rondo only with better driving characteristics and sliding doors for easier entry/exit. The MPG is a little better than the Rondo too.
Anyway, thank you, bobw3--lots of good info in your post.
Unfortunately, we have to carry 3 kids and either a cello or a large dog (luckily, the dog does not go to cello lessons). I checked the hatch, and there IS enough room for the dog, though I don't know if he'd like sitting there. He does sit in back in the Rondo, but he has more window space there.
We actually test-drove the Mazda5 before we bought the Rondo, and we like the Rondo a lot better, though we did love those sliding doors! But the Rondo rode better, and had 7 seats rather than 6. The Mazda also felt kind of tinny, and less powerful (we got the V6 Rondo).
But I do miss my CIvic Si!!! It had 183K miles on it, and was going strong--we just couldn't fit into it anymore. As a 1992 model, the center seatbelt was lap only, which works with a baby seat, but not with a booster.
With my 2008 Fit AT - 2200 RPM @ 60 MPH
I'm also curious about the idle learning procedure. I dont have a problem trying it but I highly doubt the dealer did ILP.
It came with 56 miles and it now has a 280 miles.
I filed it up on "E" 8.96 gallons so I'm thinking its roughly around 25mpg(280 /10.08gallons)?
Does anyone think I should wait till the offical break in period is over till I do the ILP?
Driving:60% city,40% highway. Some stop and go but mostly city driving.
Other than that ,excellent car. Its my mini-SUV
It's not like you can't press "A/C" if they do decide to fog.
You calculate mileage based on amount pumped divided into miles driven - not tank size.
1.) Fill up car
2.) Drive until feel you need to refill
3.) Fill up again
4.) Divide mileage driven since last fillup (for example 280 miles) into gallons pumped the second time(example 8.96 gallons). 280 / 8.96 = 31.25 MPG
Tank size has nothing... NOTHING... to do with your MPG.
Anyway, that's not how you calculate mileage. You divide the number of miles you've traveled since the last full fill-up by the number of gallons it takes to fill it up back to full. For your case, it would be (280-56)/8.96 = 25 MPG.
My first tank yielded 38.4 mpg (which... wow. I was traveling 70-80mph and expected far worse results from the first tank)
The second tank was 34 mpg - this was a lot of city driving, with the air conditioner on.
The third tank was 31.8 mpg - this was all highway again, mostly hanging out around 80 mph. It was very windy, so perhaps that decreased my fuel efficiency.
I couldn't love the car more. Everyone has loved the car and is shocked at it's price. (I subject everyone to an actual demonstration of the seat configurations.)
I think I have pretty good justifications for seeing a decrease in my mpg - also, there were two other people in the car and all of our luggage.
Thanks for letting me spy on you all while I was researching the vehicle and awaiting its arrival!
what is getting lubricated?
But actually the reason the A/C runs with the defroster on is to dehumidify the air coming out of the defroster vents and thereby clear the windows more effectively.
It may or may not have been done.
It only takes a few minutes of actual work on your part and perhaps a half hour of Idling for the car to warm up from a cold start while idling.
You don't have to stand there the entire time. Just check back every once in a while.
Kip
http://www.hondalac.com/service/Bulletins/x02-029e.pdf
You will notice that the ILP is supposed to be done whenever any of several fuses have been disconnected, including the "Get Ready" after some of those fuses are re connected. Also when ever the battery has been disconnected.
Here is an easy way to do the ILP. Recommended!
kipk, "Honda Pilot Real World MPG" #201, 30 Dec 2006 5:02 am
If it has already been done, doing it again won't help.
I've gotten a lot of "flack" concerning the ILP. A dealer will tell you it only affects the quality of idle. However, It brought my Pilot mileage back to the 18-19 mpg local driving, from the 14 mpg it had dropped to. My battery had been disconnected to find a wiring problem just prior to the mileage drop.
I don't know why it works.
Keep in mind the Pilot under the new EPA ratings is 15-20 for 4wd. We consistently get 18-19 local and 23-27 road, depending on speed load, etc.. Have gotten near 28 on a 1K RT to Indiana from Georgia, at 60-65 mph.
My take is that doing the ILP, we had everything to gain and nothing to loose! You may feel differently. :shades:
I don't own a Fit yet. So the only reference I can give is for the Pilot, Ridgeline and our CR-V.
This is a outdated print out on my neighbors Ridgeline MPG. Keeping in mind the 15/20 rating. The 3/16 entry includes near 150 miles of towing a 3000# Trail Manor Camper. The 10/28 entry is a trip at 65 MPH. (He usually sets his cruise at 75 mph.)
He did the ILP when he brought it home "New" from the dealer! My son's Ridgeline reflects similar mileage. He also did the ILP when he got it home from the dealer.
Date.... Odometer $/gal...Gallons....Cost..Mileage..Avg
8/3/2007 30
8/13/2007 299.....$2.579....14.93...$38.51..18.01..18.01
8/22/2007 424.....$2.649.... 7.74....$20.50..16.15..17.38
8/22/2007 562 ...$2.619......6.61... $17.30. 20.89..18.17
8/22/2007 742... $2.529..... 8.90 ...$22.50..20.23....8.65
8/23/2007 961... $2.649....10.76 ...$28.50.. 20.36..19.03
9/3/2007 1196 $2.549 12.79 $32.60 18.37 18.89
9/24/2007 1507 $2.629 17.50 $46.00 17.77 18.64
9/30/2007 1619 $2.629 6.09 $16.01 18.39 18.63
10/12/2007 1775 $2.549 7.45 $19.00 20.93 18.81
10/12/2007 1871 $2.599 4.58 $11.91 20.95 18.91
10/16/2007 1971 $2.519 4.45 $11.20 22.49 19.07
10/18/2007 2075 $2.699 4.63 $12.49 22.47 19.22
10/18/2007 2372 $2.599 12.50 $32.50 23.75 19.69
10/26/2007 2582 $2.589 9.35 $24.20 22.47 19.90
10/28/2007 2838 $2.719 9.64 $26.21 26.56 20.36
11/2/2007 3136 $2.589 13.75 $35.60 21.67 20.48
11/2/2007 3406 $2.589 11.59 $30.00 23.30 20.68
11/15/2007 3673 $2.839 13.70 $38.90 19.49 20.59
11/23/2007 3743 $2.839 4.93 $14.00 14.20 20.41
12/2/2007 3829 $2.879 4.52 $13.00 19.05 20.38
12/5/2007 3878 $2.869 2.37 $6.80 20.67 20.38
12/11/2007 3969 $2.819 4.82 $13.60 18.86 20.35
12/27/2007 4289 $2.789 16.13 $45.00 19.83 20.31
1/9/2008 4436 $2.959 8.28 $24.50 17.75 20.21
1/20/2008 4557 $2.919 7.78 $22.70 15.56 20.05
2/12/2008 4783 $2.869 13.50 $38.73 16.74 19.86
3/16/2008 5056 $3.099 17.59 $54.50 15.52 19.57
Kip
This is my first post. I bought an '08 Fit Sport MT over the weekend. Just made my first fuel stop this morning. 285 miles on 8.53 gallons yielded 33.4 MPG. Needless to say, I'm elated. I'm hoping things get even better with break-in. My commute is about 13 miles each way, but the traffic is a crapshoot. Some days I go 55mph all the way and maybe stop at a light or two. Other days, it is stop-n-go, and it might take me ~1hr to go 13 miles. My wife and I _were_ a two SUV family, but once we got her a Pacifica for hauling the family, I knew I needed to get rid of my Outlander (getting ~20 MPG in it). I am loving the new car thus far (and that is from someone who is 6'3", 240lbs... ).
I appreciate fuel economy as much as almost anyone, but I see a lot of messages about stretching the mpg by doing things that would make me wonder what is wrong with me.
I LIKE driving, but if I have to drive in a way that makes driving unpleasant, then I will no longer like driving and will consider not having a car at all. I will not drive without A/C if it is hot in the car. I will not coast when a little gas would keep me going with the flow of traffic. I will not do many of the things that are mentioned on this board as ways to raise the mpg. I believe sometimes the prize becomes greater than the purpose. I will avoid speeding and will generally stay at or below 65 on the freeway. I will avoid speeding up and slowing down foolishly, I will not slow to 60 when the traffic is going 67, so that I can save 10-20 cents on my 30 mile trip. I will not turn my engine off during a red light stop that promises to be longer than a minute, especially on a warm day. I will read the tire reviews and buy the ones that have the best reputation for practical driving economy along with safety. I will keep them inflated to the high end of the recommended range but will not over inflate so as to save a dime here and there while making the ride too harse.
I believe driving is a necessity and it can be done in reasonable comfort and as economically as convenience allows. Beyond that I will not allow my car to become a too-tight corset or something that I have to consider a mugger trying to steal my pennies. I believe that an ATTITUDE of economy will cause, over time, sufficient moderation of wasteful practice to achieve a reasonable result. I do not expect to win the prize but I do expect to have more fun than the winner.
You're not alone. My 2008 Fit MT got just under 36 mpg on its first 10 tanks of gas, and I drove it the way I always drive, which includes zooming on the highway at 80. I haven't averaged the mpg since then but I'd guess it's about the same. I'm not doing without A/C. I'm not doing dangerous stuff like freewheeling down hills. I'm sure as heck not going to turn the car off at stoplights. If I were willing to be uncomfortable and in danger just to get better mpg, I could have gotten a motorcycle and doubled the mpg not just squeezed out an extra couple.
True, you won't win the prize! As far as fun goes, I find winning more fun than loosing. Every time I beat that EPA rating by 15-20%.. I win. And it is FUN!
Hey, if you don't want to adjust your driving to save money, that's fine, and totally up to you. I need to save any bit of money I can, and I really don't care if every single person on the highway passes me. I stay in the right lane, and I make it to where I need to be, on time. To each his/her own.
I could not agree more! I LOVE squeezing the most mileage from each tank. It's a challenge, and it makes driving my little Fit FUN!
Although, if I get power-happy, that Fit-matching mileage disappears and drops back to around EPA numbers (33-35 when running 80-85).
Glad to find another Bama family represented here.
That all being said, I LOVE my Fit's gas mileage. I have had the car for about two months now (and have only filled it up once) and estimate that I got an average of about 36.2 mpg (this includes A LOT of stop-and-go city driving). I have a sport 5-speed manual transmission. This really is a great little car!!
I doubt that I'll ever be able to afford to retire, but if I did, you can be sure that the bike/s (still in my garage) would go with me and daily riding would come back, even if less intense than before.
I don't know about the A/C in the Fit; it is probably lower capacity than the Civic or Accord, both of which cool very well; I know, I live in AL. It's supposed to be 88 today, and its only May!
I just like the Fit, and while my folks are shopping for a second car (they're closing on on the Nissan Versa though) I've been hanging out in this forum.
These are my rides!
Good to see you're a Bama grad, too. (I'm c/o 1998, B.S. in Finance).
We live, as you know, in central Texas. Yesterday it was 97 and the Fit A/C did an outstanding job. We do not have tinted windows - my husband and I can't stand them.
Years ago when my hubby was doing his res at St. Paul Ramsey in MN we had an old Ford Fairlane 500 and the A/C couldn't cope w/ MN summers....
Regards,
Bubba
Regards,
Bubba :shades: