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Let us know what you decided to do and good luck on your search.
Kwamedog: I would probably buy the warranty. There must of been some reason why they replaced 85% of the parts on the DI to bring out the DII.
If I were you I wouldn't trust that oil level dipstick too much... they're notorious for being set differently between trucks (at least in the DI). If you have a friend with another, try his and see what the reading is. I tend to run it right up to the FULL mark all the time... but too much is a bad thing too. If you use a long filter it might take an extra 1/2 or 1/3 quart... not much difference.
Note: it's IMPORTANT to fill the new filter with oil before you mount it. When dry filters were fitted to some DIs, they would lose their oil pump prime, and it wouldn't suck oil from the crankcase. The remedy was to remove the oil filter pump and pack it with vaseline.
Drain plug washers: If you've got a steel washer you ought to be fine. Soft copper is great for filling gaps and preventing leaks but it anneals with first use so it has to be replaced. Newer, tighter tolerances on the new engines ought to do away with this need for copper seals.
When you change your diff/transfer case fluids, you'll see a screwy square indent head in the plugs... don't buy the Rover tool, use your 1/2" drive socket wrench w/o a socket. Perfect fit. Need a drain plug wrench? Use the tire iron... both are 1-1/8"
Good luck! -Bob
Take a look at this link... the gent had to retract a bunch of his statements due to threat of litigation by the filter manufacturers, but there's still some good info here.
http://members.nbci.com/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html
Regards, -Bob
Anyway, the K&N filter was not included in the study. British Atlantic carries it, but it costs about twice as much as it's competitors, including the Land Rover filter. Have you had any experience with it. They claim to have some sort of anti-drainback valve that prevents dry starting. thanks again
ADVICE NEEDED:
A while back, I posted a message re: Lizzie's no-start, and interior lights and exterior lights out since. The tech at the dealer says it's due to corrosion in the fog light assembly and how the different lights on her have the same power source/ground. Everything from front fog lights, rear fogs, side markers, instrument panel, and shifter lights. Because corrosion isn't a covered issue on my warranty obviously, this is going to cost $540.00. Is there a less expensive way around this? That price doesn't include replacing all of the bulbs. At least $50 a pop there.
DEALER INFO
The dealer in Farmington Hills, MI is going through some major growing pains building a bigger facility and trying to accomodate BMW, but in 6 mo. to a year, BMW will be in their own facility down the road and LR will have the place back to themselves. AMEN. They have rotated a number of service guides through the place and have since improved wait time immensely. It used to take 3-4 wks. to get an appt., but now is quite less. My only concern is that it appears that whenever they get a good service guide, they transfer him to BMW. This makes it difficult to establish a rapport.
BATTLE OF THE BRITS CAR SHOW
This Sunday, Sept. 9, in Sterling Heights, MI. One of Michigan's largest displays of classic British cars and cycles. Over 140 awards presented. Usual good turnout of Series vehicles. Contact Info:
Sue Snyder, ph. 810-979-4875 or email snydley@home.com , www.detroittriumph.org
The event is mentioned in the GLRA (Great Lakes Rover Assoc.), flyer this summer. Anybody going?
Glad to see so many positive articles.
I almost forgot to mention the 01 DII that I've had as a loaner this week. SE, very nice, good opportunity to wet our whistle on the next LR we will own. I like some of the differences between the two, some I don't care for. Good, solid truck though. I can't wait to get mine back.
Take care all, and thanks for any help offered.
Kim
Also about the bulbs.... the bumper marker lights, side markers, etc. on my Disco are all the same small bulbs... and for $10 I bought a BAG of them so I can replace them at my leisure.
I wonder if there's a better dealer close by???
Thanks,
Regards,
02
Please advise ----
'96 Disco SD
51K Miles
Valves and Head gasket just replaced
New Exhaust
1 Owner - A guy I work with.
ARB bumper w/ Warn winch
New Tires
All Records - Service mostly @ LR dealership
$14.5K
Overall great condition
How's this sound? Any other problem areas to look for???
Thanks!
Scott
It my understanding that '96's are noted for having a problem with the exhaust valves sticking due to carbon. So before his warranty ran out, he had the dealer take care of this. They did the head gasket while they were in there.
-Scott
I personally haven't driven an ACE version, so I can't really comment too much on how it handles. This is my first Rover and I thought I'd play it safe by not buying all the gadgets. I thought I'd keep it simple this time around. I have no regrets whatsover over my choice, she handles like a dream and she puts a smile on my face everytime I take her out.
And that's what really matters!
Another example is on the freeway: my truck feels sluggish at 55mph but at 70mph she's like a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
I think "sport" mode only alters the shift points, letting it rev higher before it shifts. It may also allow it to kick down a gear sooner when you mash the pedal. Both will keep the engine higher in the powerband to enhance performance. At steady-state freeway speed you should have no difference between "sport" and regular mode... both should lock up the trans into its overdrive (no slippage) and you're cruising. I shouldn't think "sport" mode would prevent you going into the final "overdrive".
In the DI there's a plug in the floor, aft end, offside where you attach the trailer wiring harness. If you can find one then installation should be a snap. Unfortunately... Rover seems to have a death grip on many aftermarket parts. How about U-Haul? JC Whitney?
Regards, -Bob
How much do the oil changes cost through a dealer? Is it any more than another vehicle?
How does the scheduled maintenance run? I assume there would be a 15K and 30K service that would be required to keep up with the warranty. Are they very expensive?
I've been on the fence about a Land Rover and was curious how much it would run me a year.
Thanks!
Having a DI prior and now a DII (non-ace), the amount of control in the corners is night and day. I live up a 2 mile winding road and could (if I wanted to) take the road at 10mph faster in the DII than I could in the DI. Of course, I poke around all the time and am not an aggressive driver, but I could be if I wanted to
I too did some long trials of both ACE and non-ACE DIIs before purchasing. ACE is definitely more solid in the corners but again, due to my pokey driving style, the extra cost, and the extra whining noise that it makes, I opted for non ACE and am completely happy.
Love the DII but still missing the DI...
Thanks, wasko
Last weekend I changed the oil again, using a Purolator Premium One. It's the x-ref filter for the Fram PH8A long-body. And, it seems to be doing great! The anti-drainback valve must be working well, I have almost zero lifter noise on cold start now.
Just spreading the good news, -Bob
I agree, with frequent changes you don't need the extra filtering capacity. I use them to get more filtering surface area, which gives me quicker oil pressure pump-up and reduces the likelihood of opening the filter's popoff valve in cold weather driving. Same reason to use synthetics in winter... I'm up to oil pressure right away, even when it's way below zero.
I've been reading the messages here for a while and I have been interested in getting a Disco II for the last few months. I've finally found one that I may be interested in. Can you please check the service record and let me know what you find?
It is a 2000 with a VIN of SALTY1546YA241549.
Also, I have heard that Disco's do not need to be aligned. Is this true?
I appreciate your help. Thanks.
Thanks for the information. Can you tell me when the warranty runs out on this vehicle? Can you also tell which servicings were done? For example, I hear that the oil in the diffs need to be changed at 7500 miles, can you tell if this was done already? What are the service intervals, and have they been performed? This truck has 23,242 miles on it.
Thanks again for your help.
Boy you are quick! I'm beginning to feel like one of the benefits of LR ownership are great people like yourself!
Thanks for the information on the truck. I went to look at it this morning. The vehicle is at a BMW dealership and I'm not sure how knowledgable they are about it. It is a 2000 that has 18" wheels, and they say it has ACE, but is there anyway for me to confirm just by looking at it? Is there some indication or switches on the dash that would verify, or can you tell me what to look for if I peek under the truck?
I will contact a LR dealership in my area to get a copy of the maintenance schedule. Do you know if the prices for the servicing are listed? Finally, can you tell me which LR dealership in CA this vehicle has been serviced at? I'd probably like to continue taking it to that location since they are familiar with it. Thanks again.
Thank you again for your information. The vehicle certainly has ACE.
I called LR San Jose and and explained to them that I was looking to purchase a used (but still under warranty) Discovery that I had "heard" was purchased at LR San Jose and if I could get information on the service history. They flatly refused to give me any information and said that they couldn't give me the info even if I bought the car. Is this a standard LR policy? I am completely flabbergasted by this. They tell me that it is to protect the privacy of the previous owners. I don't give a *^&%# about the previous owners, but I do care about the record of the vehicle. I'm not even sure that I want to deal with LR San Jose anymore. Is there an "official" way that I get get a detailed listing of the servicing history from LR once/if I buy the vehicle?
Also, I've been reading my 2001 Discovery brochure (I'm hoping that it's very similar to the 2000 models) and it seems like only the Canadian models have daytime running lights. I have these in my Volvo and I really think that they are a great safety feature. Is there any way to get daytime running lights on a US model Discovery?
Thanks again.
Also, I'm sure the LR dealer that wantadiscoii called would have gladly given him the service history, at least verbally, if he had been buying the Disco from them (& they were profiting from the sale)....... Obviously, no one should give out the first owner's key codes, regardless.
Hence my term "mystery vehicle"......it shouldn't have to be like pulling teeth for the consumer to find out about prior repairs or maintenance on a used, but still-under-warrenty car, but too often is. I was just saying, maybe look for a different vehicle with available records if it comes to that. And believe me, I know how excellent LR dealers can be (partly why I bought one), but I did find a marked difference between even LR dealers when I was shopping.
IMHO you provide a great service on this board......but unfortunately most used car buyers don't have the advantage of your expertise or access to information (when I was shopping for a used LR it was before you were posting here). BTW, you've given me info here before & I appreciate it.
Just my 2cents worth, as a consumer.