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When I take delivery of a new vehicle I have the dealer install original equipment quality Michelin tires on the vehicle at no cost to me, (as part of the deal.) ----- If the dealer is not willing to take this action, I simply walk! ----- I have owned my 2007 V6 Toyota XLE Camry since January 2007, ----- (the vehicle has 22,000+ miles with no problems.) This vehicle came with Bridgestone tires. Once the deal was set, I told the sales person to exchange the Bridgestone tires for Michelin tires. I also told the sales person that this request was not negotiable, as I would not own a vehicle with either Firestone or Bridgestone tires. They are simply an accident looking for a place to happen! ----- (Yes, that is my opinion!)
Best regards. ------ Dwayne :shades:
I do have a little hesitation but not enough to worry me.
This winter has been exceptionally cold here in the Dallas area and because of that I started to have the dash noise. It sounded like someone was shaking a can of nails when the car was cold. After heating up, most of the noise went away but not all of it. I had to take the car in for a wheel alignment yesterday and mentioned to the service adviser about the the TSB for the dash problem. He said he wasn't aware of of it. It's a good thing I wrote it down on a slip of paper and handed it to him. To sum it up, I was a bit worried, but after picking the car up at the end of the day there are no more rattles and the dash looks like when I brought it in. Hopefully this will be the end of that. I hope anyone who has been putting off the TSB work for this problem will have it done, unless of course you just don't have confidence in the dealership you take it to because of an earlier problem. The dealership I go to I have been using for a few years now and am highly confident of their work.
First was a rattle in the rear window that they had to fix. I had to take the car in 3 times for one and they had to get into the rear seat area to fix it. Next was the rattle in the front windshield near the speaker. They kept the car a couple of days for that one.
Next came the 15K servicing where I found out that the front Bridgestone tires were worn down to the wear bars. I talked to the dealer and they said sure enough, the tires were worn. The rep from Toyota said I should call the tire manufacturer to see what they would do about it. The Firestone dealer said that the tires were underinflated at 25 PSI and from the Toyota service records that the tires were not rotated as required. The tire dealer offered to buy one of the tires if I would buy the other tire and do an alignment al for about $220.
The result is that I didn't get the servicing that I thought that I was paying for, Toyota just bailed out on any responsibility whatsoever and Firestone said that the dealer didn't do the required servicing. The tires track poorly, they make loud and course road noise, that the fornt passenger seat rattles from the harshness of the ride.
Me, I think that Toyota is the villan here and I think the public needs to know about this kind of stuff. My thought is that Toyota is out of line on its treatment of customers and I feel that people should strongly consider other manufacturers. I think that anyone would be crazy to consider buying a Toyota Camry. :lemon:
I have been through most of the problems you have read on these post. It's been a year and half trying to get problems solved that have been with this car from day one.
I agree the consumer needs to hear the real truth of the experiences we are having.
When the dashboard is cold, I can hear a rattling sound coming from the far right side of the dashboard. Its just like a sound of a screw rattling there. The sound disappear when the dashboard becomes hot. I went to a dealership but they said it was a normal sound. I remember somone had very similar problem and he got it fixed by using a TSB. Anyone has that TSB? Please help me out. Thanks
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=203877&highlight=dash+rattle
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/31/07311824.html
As you might tell from the thread- it worked. My car had no real hesitation when they did that fix. BUT I also posted and will reiterate here that it worked for a couple months and then BAM - back to the same old same ole. The hesitation is just as bad as it was before the fix and the dealer does not want to do it again... He actually doesn't believe there is one and that I am just - for the lack of better words- seeing things... it is all in my head. Well literally his words were "Don't worry your pretty little head about things that are not really there".
So I have one more dealer to call as all the others in the area do not know what I am talking about and do not have the software fix. I am going to call the dealer in Durham NC and see if they have it.
I know that on the surface it sounds stupid to be this upset but I believe it is a safety issue. One dealer told me that it was on the car as a safety item. I cannot believe that. I think it is just a tad UNSAFE to pull out into beltline traffic (5-6 lanes wide at times and average speed is a little over 80 mph) and have the car not go for a couple seconds. If I mis judge the distance of a car as I pull out of my subdivision and it hesitates at all- I am toast... If someone is behind me and they see my brake lights go off when the light turns green- if they are to close they stand a good chance of knocking into me because they believe that when my car looks like it is going to move forward-doesn't move forward...
Anyway- just an update that yes- the fix does work but it is NOT a long term solution. I do not believe in suing people at the drop of a hat- but I really wish there was a way to cut my losses and get another car. Now- my vehicle is not worth what I owe and so I am stuck with it. It is gorgeous - has the FULL sport edition... Looks just like the pace cars at NASCAR. Not a scratch on it and inside is really nice- has bluetooth and everything. Damn shame as far as I am concerned. I would love to get an Avalon or one of the new SUV's that look like a cross between a Jeep and a Hummer.
I know this isn't a big deal on the grand scheme of things but Toyota would go a long way in customer service if they would help us out. I certainly would buy a Toyota again and would urge my friends to continue to buy- but as it stands with them NOT standing up and taking responsibility for this situation it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it leaves me telling people that although the cars are generally good the CS sucks and they do not stand behind their vehicles at all.
said about your problem with the dealers and with the issue not being resolved? And what are THEY doing about it?
Let's try to keep this topic for problems and repairs, okay?
Thanks,
Rob
I can attest to the fact that getting onto I440 around Raleigh is no place for hesitation to occur. Good Luck.
wouldn't it be nice if the government demanded that DBW implementers (and this is a manufacturer neutral rhetorical question) disclose exactly what a TSB does to the ECU or TCM?
i mean, if you want the information, you deserve that information don't you? at least a really good explaination to help you understand how it's designed and SUPPOSED to operate. specially if it involves the responsiveness of the vehicle to the driver's control inputs and thus someone's safety? :surprise:
check the TSB. I'm on vacation and don't have access to all my files. I looked up the TSB and only had a copy of the original one on my pc, and it indicated it was for automatic transmission vehicles.
I'll be back in town next week, and can post the link to the latest again if nobody posts it first.
Maybe you are looking at an old TSB.
Here's the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/52160365/EG036-037.pdf.html
That's what I think too. I am just glad that the TSB completely fixed the only problem I have had with the car. It only took 25 minutes, just barely enough time to enjoy some free cookies at the dealer.
I find it interesting there were QTY 4 previous calibrations for the AT which are being coalesced into QTY 2 new calibrations. You'd think they'd have had one for the AT, and one for the MT at most right?
Should one conclude that the AT model had up to 4 variations in hardware (PCM, Transmission, Torque Convertor or other part?). The engine was the same.
Interesting.
I know there is a problem with squealing breaks on the 2007 Camry. However when I went to one(of 2) the local dealerships to have the fix it, they weren't able to. So I went to other local dealership in my area and they said the only way that it can fixed is to replace the more advanced break pads with the metal shavings in it, with a more convention break pad that will wear out much sooner. Does anyone know if this is the only way to stop the squealing breaks?
Thanks
"Some customers may experience front brake squeak noise when the car is traveling in reverse and light pressure is applied on the brake pedal. The noise usually occurs when backing out of a parking space and/or turning in reverse. Update front disc brake pad support plates ("fitting kit") are available to improve this condition."
If your squeaking occurs under normal braking conditions, I have found over the years that it is different brake pads which will fix that problem.
This TSB really is nothing more than adding 2 little spring clips on each front brake pad, and making sure there is a little grease in the appropriate rubbing point.
When I first got the car I had a TSB done which fixed for a while but now they are worse than ever.
Looking for a fix?
You can probably have your mechanic chamfer the trailing edge.
Most aftermarket pads still come with both ends chamferred.
are there any tsb on this problem?
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seems like you either have air in your brake-lines, moisture, leaking lines, low brake fluid level, or a bad master cylinder.
I set an appointment up for this past Friday. Took it in on a wet rainy morning after it sitting all night. I work overnight shift. After being there an hour or so, the service manager said "Lets go for a ride" I knew right away they didnt hear anything. I also have a 'spring squeak' coming from the rear, maybe bushings.
We drove and drove, drove through potholes, over speed bumps etc. We couldnt duplicate the dash noise and he said basically if they dont hear anything they wont attempt the TSB. He also said my VIN doesnt match the TSB and due to that, they wont just do the TSB. I was so angry. He wants me to leave it overnight one time this week and they will test drive it first thing in the morning when its cold ouit and hopefully they can pinpoint the rattle.
Wouldn't ya know it, this morning going to get my son from friends sleepover, thhing rattled the whole way there.
I HATE THIS CAR.
I tried and tried to show him where the dash rattles, its the entire front edge by the defroster vents but he refused to rip apart the thing unless he heard anything. The speaker grills move about half an inch, the whole dash is loose. he didnt care.
Plus we didnt hear the spring nouse from the rear suspensionj.
I cant wait to get rid of this car.
ANYONE have a problem like this? They wont apply a TSB unless they can specifically hear something?
Does anyone had this problem. Has anyone been able to get it corrected by the dealer. I am hoping there is a TSB for it.
Thanks.
I will tell you, they did no damage at all to the dash or anthing else... which makes me believe that maybe they did not even install the TSB but did something else to quiet the noise.... I now have to wait untill the fall when the weather gets colder again to bring the car back... and I will because this noise drives me crazy....
PS: My car is a LE 4cl 07 will 4k miles on it.... I work from home.....
PPS: Below are the 2 TSB's that I found that should be installed on the car but the dealer reported only installing the "Noise Kit #08231-00801", Hope this helps... post back what happens...
The repair requires "Noise Kit #08231-00801", and "Wind Noise Kit #08231-00810". Toyota allowed the dealer 4.5 hours for the repair (under warranty),
always try different dealer, while I was there to repair the noise, I ask him about the noise come out from my steering column, they said nothing, all other car make a similar noise. I don't believe them so I took to a different dealer, and found out that the inter shaft has a bad bearing, and replace it for free (35900 miles)
He called me up that morning and said "Hi E, I took it out personally and heard some rattling, well actually a very substantial rattle and I think we can fix it"
SO he called later and said he would need even a second day for the fix.
So I picked it up Friday afternoon and it seemed ok but the weather turned and its been decent out. So I hope the fix works.
They also lubed the rear suspension bushings. Not sure if that was what the TSB called for but again the weather is nicer so hopefully no more rattles.
P.S. I still dont love the car but at least Ill deal with it a little better
That area under the plastic cover does get hot and there are wires {I think} around there and the plastic might melt. Maybe someone with more expertise than me could reply but it does get hot.
Keep the dash lights on their highest brightness and feel the plastic where it says
"D. D-3, R." etc. The gear you are in, it can get warm. Probably hotter underneath.