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Porsche 911 Lease Questions

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  • Car_Man - any thoughts on this deal for a 2012 Panamera? This is from the dealer today.

    The best money factor is on the 36 month lease at .00207.

    12,000 miles per year

    Residual of 56%

    Drive off fees of $2,059

    MSRP of $86,135 - $3,135 discount = a selling price of $1,264 + tax = $1,362 including tax
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi goldfader1. The money factor that you were quoted is a little high. Porsche Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor for a 36 month lease of a 2012 Panamera is .00167 for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value that you were quoted is right on the money.

    As far as the selling price goes, Porsches are one of the few brands left that still have a substantial difference between vehicles' MSRPs and dealer invoice prices. A discount of a little over three thousand is likely at best midway between MSRP and invoice. That may be the best that you can do on this car right now, particularly since it is a 2012 model (I am not intimately familiar with what the market is like for it), but there's enough room there that it wouldn't hurt to shop around if you have the time and are so inclined.

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  • fq1fq1 Posts: 47
    Car_man: Thanks for all your help on all the forums. Would you happen to have the current 24 and 36 month MF for the 911GTS?
  • dfc52dfc52 Posts: 4
    Hi Car Man:
    New member here; great forum! do you have the August MF & residual % for remaining 2011 C4S's? Also, since it's the end of the year, are there any incentives out there? I'm in CA.
    Thanks much.
    dfc
  • dfc52dfc52 Posts: 4
    Sorry, I forgot to mention that I'm interested in a 24mos lease with no more than 10K miles/year.

    Thx,
    dfc
  • nkcnkc Posts: 5
    edited August 2011
    Hi Car-man,

    I am looking at two Porsche 911 C2 models at different delears and am hoping you can give me some guidance on lease rates for both.

    Car#1 is 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera with MSRP of $87220

    Car#2 is a 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera with MSRP of $87155

    - do you know what the current lease rates would be for each of these cars? I would be look for a lease with 10k miles or LESS. Probably 36 mo unless there are attractive deals for shorter leases.

    The cars are very similarly equipped so I am trying to assess whether the lease or purchase deal on the 2011 model would be different enough to justify buying what is almost a 1-year old car at this point.

    thanks for your help.

    Naveen
  • You're very welcome fq1. Porsche Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2011 911 GTS without PDK with 15,000 miles per year are .00220 and 65%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00220 and 54%.

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  • Welcome dfc52. Lease programs vary by term and mileage allowance. For now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different.

    Porsche Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 911 C4S Coupe with 15,000 miles per year are .00220 and 54%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    I am not aware of any cash incentives that are available on this car right now. Have you heard anything different?

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  • Ah ha. I should have scrolled forward to see your next post. The numbers for a 24 month, 10,000 mile per year lease of this car are .00220 and 68%.

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  • Hi Naveen. PFS' current buy rate lease money factor for both of these cars is .00220 for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    PFS' 10,000 mile per year residual values for these cars are 57% for the 2011 911 Coupe C4S and interestingly 57% as well.

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  • amiramir Posts: 93
    i am new to porsche forums. i have a question. when i build my porsche 911 base with options it came out as $105K . and the difference in invoice in over 11k , usually i have been able to get invoice pricing on my cars but usually the difference in msrp and invoice in most cars is under 5 or 6k but in this case its over 10k. do u guys think getting porsche at invoice is possible? thanks
  • what should be my approximate MF on a 2012 911 C2 with a 30% residual; 5000 mi per year?

    thanks.
  • Hello Car Man.

    what should be my approximate MF on a 2012 911C2 with a 30% residual; 5000 mi per year?

    Thank you.
  • Thanks much! And no, I have not heard about any year-end incentives for 2011 models.
  • Hi Car_Man,

    I am new to the Porsche forum, could you please let me know what the lease rates and residuals for a 2011 and a 2012 Turbo Coupe. I am looking for 36 months and 10 to 12K miles a year. Thanks
  • Hi wineman3. Porsche Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor for a 36-month lease of a 2012 911 is .00220 for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • You're very welcome dfc52.

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  • Welcome peakboost. Porsche Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2012 911 Turbo Coupe with 12,000 miles per year are .00220 and 55%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2011 911 Turbo Coupe model are .00220 and 55%.

    The residual values for leases with only 10,000 miles per year are 1% higher.

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  • Thank you car man.
  • You're very welcome, peakboost. Just in case you're interested, Porsche just introduced $5,000 dealer cash on leftover 2011 911 models a couple of days ago.

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  • Thanks again. Is this incentive is available on the Turbo and GT3 as well? How about on a preowned 2011 Turbo or GT3?
  • fq1fq1 Posts: 47
    Car_Man, could you please provide the 24-month residual and MF for the 2011 911 turbo for 10,000 miles/yr. As always, many thanks for all your help.
  • You're very welcome peakboost. The incentive is definitely not available on CPO vehicles and I don't believe that it is available on new Turbo or GT3 models either.

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  • Hi fq1. Porsche Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2011 911 Turbo Coupe with 10,000 miles per year are .00220 and 63%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • Thank you again for your help and this service. Best wishes

    Peakboost.
  • fq1fq1 Posts: 47
    edited October 2011
    Car_Man, as always, my profound thanks for all your help. Here is another request: MF and Residual for 10K miles/yr for 24 and 36 months for the 2011 and 2012 911GTS coupe and the 2011 Turbo coupe. Thanks!!!
  • Hi Carman:

    I am posting here because I didn't see a separate link for the Panamera.

    The car I'm interested in leasing is a 2011 Panamera (base), sticker 81,450.

    Do you know the MF and residual on this (36 mos), and the amount of dealer cash (I think it's 4 or 5K from Porsche to the dealer but I'm not sure).

    Thanks!!

    Marc
  • You're very welcome Peakboost.

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  • No problem fq1. Porsche Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24-month lease of a 2011 911 GTS Coupe with 10,000 miles per year are .00200 and 68%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00200 and 57%.

    The numbers for the 2012 version of this car are .00200 / 70% for 24 months and .00200 / 59% for 36 months.

    The numbers for a 2011 911 Turbo Coupe are .00200 / 63% for 24 months and .00200 / 56%.

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  • Greetings Marc. Porsche Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a base 2011 Panamera with 15,000 miles per year are .00167 and 54%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    Porsche is giving dealers $5,000 dealer cash on this car right now.

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