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Steve
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Thanks.
I was also offered SD and LE for between $585 and $624 but unable to find 7 seat pkg. I am getting mine directly from the port in Los Angeles where they have 500 cars ready for shipping to wherever needed. I hope this helps. Good luck.
I was at my local hardware store yesterday, and sitting outside was the coolest looking rig I've ever seen. I went out to check it out, and it turns out it was a Defender. Bright red, black top. I called my LR dealer and he said that Defender's were no longer made after 1996. This thing looked very new, however. I don't see how it could have been 5 years old. Could have been an import from England or something?
I think they stop selling it here in the US after 1997. (They were still selling it when I got my '97 Disco on 8/97) I believe they still sell those outside the US. So, maybe, you can import them?
Thanks for the info. Boy, things ain't cheap on the West Coast! In any case, I appreciate your sharing your deal. I'm going to check into that port thing (since I'm about 15 min. from the Port of Miami).
Land Rover has Port prep facilities in Brunswick Ga, Baltimore Md, Oxnard Ca. and Halifax N.S. There are no port facilities for Land Rovers in Miami, I'm afraid.
I have been shopping for a Defender for last month or so (after the purchase of a DiscoII for my wife).
The Defenders that you occasionally see out on the road, and certainly the ones on sales, all seem to be in excellent condition. And not surprisingly, they are quite pricy!!! The '96-'97 Defenders with 30-50K miles in good conditions will cost you about 35-40K $. (Ouch!!!).
Good luck and Happy Rovering!
yep, I've run into the same problem - expensive! Do you know if landrover plans on brining the Defender back to north america anytime soon?
Earliest indication is 2004, but that's just when LR is planning on re-introducing a new Defender model - like the Freelander it may take a few years (5?) to get into North America. That is unless LR is learning from Ford and will launch in NA at the same time as Europe
I'm in the same situation - have been longing to buy a Defender since I bought my D1 a couple years ago. But they are very expensive and will probably remain so until re-introduced. To make matters worse - a neighbor down the street from me has a pristine 97 Willow with roof rack. They let their highschool son drive it around. DOH!! I'm **SURE** I could appreciate the vehilce more
I'm appeasing the urge by purchasing a 1973 Series III (see them on LRX also) for less than half the price of a Defender. Very unique looking Rover and a lot of fun.
If you're serious about getting one, the best place to see a lot of them is at http://www.lrx.com - there are usually quite a few listed there to choose from.
Good luck to all. My wife is getting real close to putting down the deposit to hold her Freelander. Tincup - any updates? Dealers are telling all that they're due in the showrooms in October.
Thanks - wasko
I seem to remember reading somewhere that it might return for '02?
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Everything points to the vehicle being on schedule, due to go on sale in Oct.-Nov. If I hear any changes I will let you know.
The Defenders are actually selling for more than they did when new, they were always a slow seller when they were available. No definite word on timeframe on reintroduction, but it is something LRNA wants to happen.
Also, "shap1" , I agree things seem expensive on the west coast. Check out the SD7s if you can. My 36 mos./12K mile lease deal has a money factor of .00247 and residual of 60% (2% higher than normal for being considered a low mileage lease).
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For six Grovers you could take a standard Disco and fit some SERIOUS hardware. Not just brush bars and lights, but locking diffs, ARB bar and winch, racks galore and hard-core suspension. Then your truck wouldn't scream "LOOK AT ME" but it would certainly walk away from nearly anything offroad. Of course it's a personal opinion but beauty is found in subtlety. A well worked over 4x4 will be subtly improved in every area, and give the aura of capability while not really trying to. That means a lot more than a paint job and stickers (Bob is now ducking and putting on his Nomex).
Been to South Dade to test drive and check out the interior. I won't be ready to do anything until October, so we'll see what the situation is then. I am planning to contact North and South Dade, Naples and Orlando. I wonder if these dealerships are competitive, particularly Land Rover North and South.
Also, is the ACE package worth the extra $2900? Is there that much body roll on the Discovery without ACE?
Finally, will the dealerships throw in accessories (i.. floor mats, ski rack,etc.) instead if negotiating on the price?
Since I now have to replace 2 of the 5 tires, I'm thinking about whether to get 2 more Wranglers or get new BFG's. While the money tree out back is not over abundant with fruit, the discomfort of having offroad problems outweighs that issue.
Aside from "keep your eyes on the road", any advice or experience with either tire?
Drew
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http://www.discoweb.org/index2.html
for advice about sizing and such. Here in Alaska lots of people run Trac-Edge tires, they seem to bite the rocks and mud (and snow) pretty well.
Good luck, -Bob
I travel 20,000+ miles annually throughout the Southeastern US on business trips of 100-400 miles, often times very late at night. I am concerned about some of the problems areas such as blown head gaskets, engine management failures and other disabling problems. The "normal" LR issues such as oil leaks and other typical British issues I think I can live with.
Some of the local owners I have spoken with suggest staying with dealer service. The local LR dealers have an excellent service reputation, which does factor into this decision.
Thanks in advance
My Rover is doing great. I named her Lizzie; short for Elizabeth; as in Queen E. That and she just looked like a Lizzie to me.
What does your name mean? It's really interesting!
Go for the new DiscoII. So far so good with our '01 SD7 now at 3500 miles mostly on day-to-day commuting by my wife and weekend short-trips and off-roading by myself.
"Best car I ever owned" according to my wife whose last three cars were Lexus GS series, BMW 5 series, and VW Cabriolet. I must agree.
Now only if I can get myself a Defender..... (Wasko, the lrx site was awesome!!! I am still GREEN with envy - how does someone own a car like Defender for 3 years and put only 5000 miles on it???).
Rovero ergo sum
Neo
I named mine "Anuqa". It's Yupiq Eskimo for "wind" and she's silver, and all my sports seem to involve lots of wind. Then I can shorten the name to "Anuq" if she REALLY aggravates me... it's another Yupiq word that I can't repeat in public. But bears do it in the woods.
Regards, -Bob
As a side note, I am *extremely* happy with my Disco II. I love the vehicle, but I also have to say that I've had fantastic dealings with Land Rover of Darien (CT). From sales to service, these people are awesome! The times I've taken the truck into the service department (routine maint, questions, etc), it's almost been as if they were happy to see me. I was told initially by various Land Rover dealerships to buy the truck at the dealership where I'd likely have it serviced, so if you are in the market and are anywhere even close to Darien, CT, talk to these guys. You will not be disappointed.
We still love the truck. We've been in the snow, climbed over creek bed rocks, traveled across the Arizona desert (108 degrees at cruising speed according to the on-board readout), and towed a loaded trailer (U-Haul) from Texas to California with two small kids).
The D-II (I guess it really needs a name) impressed some desert rat friends of mine out at the CA State Ocotilla Wells ORV patch. The truck powered its way through the flood washes and kept up with the lifted Chevys and what not. It should be noted that overlooking the "Tread Lightly" mantra is state sanctioned at Ocotilla.
The only significant problems have been a broken pin on the ECU connector and (gasp) a replacement transmission at 24K miles. The transmission started slipping and LRNA, within a day, authorized a replacement. Obviously, gas mileage is awful especially So. Cal city driving.
Oddly, both front tires are extremely worn on the inside edges. That stinks because the 255/55 R18 size is not cheap. The only other complaint would be the low lifetime of the brake pads, which depends on driving style.
Despite, those kinks, the D-II has been great. You can sail it through the mud and sand without much worry about getting stranded. The D-II then cleans up nicely for going out later. Cheers,
- Erik
94 D90 1943 units sold in US, 87 in Canada
All 1994 were soft tops but 65 were sold with port installed hard tops
95 D90 1190 Soft tops, 510 Station Wagons, all US sales
97 D90 1499 Soft tops, 1300 Station Wagons, all US sales
nanuq- I love the QE2 idea. Where are you from/do you live? I ask because of the interesting names you have and because of other messages you have left. Is it Alaska?
Does anyone know of a cheap way to get some Hellas? My brush guard just seems naked without them. Will LR install them if I purchase them from somewhere other than at the dealer?
Thanks,
Kim
Yep, I'm here in Alaska. I'm not a "native" native but I've been here since I was knee high to an oogruk.
Hey, here's another idea for a name... "Sichuk". It means "mud puddle". Not sure about the spelling though... I haven't seen many native words with the "ch" combination.
Q'amai, -Bob
When I bought the truck I told myself I would allow two mechanical breakdowns that could leave me somewhere stranded. The reason being is that I duck hunt in the middle of nowwhere sometimes and do not want to get stranded. Well, one down and two to go. The reliability of a Toyota Sequoia is looking good.
Interestingly, the Disco II has a warning light for having a locked differential, but the dealer said there is not locking differential, which is true but I didn't think of it. It is apparently a useless warning light for that, but it is a warning light that there is something wrong with your breaklights. FYI if this happens to you.
Oh well, Land Rover proved me wrong. I still maintain 17,500 trouble free miles.
Ocean: I wonder if it's your fuel filter? I believe it's in that area and it (or its connections) may have sprung a leak.
Regards, -Bob
Thanks for the feedback on the locking diferential. I am sure they use the same display panels in several of their vehicles to save on costs. This warning light does not even come on in the check mode during the start-up of the vehicle, but there is an explanation in the owner's manual. It may be a good warning light for your brake lights being out. I should pull a tail light bulb and then break to see if it lights up.
Don't be afraid to tell me how it really is. It is not a great comfort reading that some owners feel proud if they can get 17K trouble free miles.
It is the only vehicle that I can think about. Am I crazy?
Once the truck was taken in for service, the dealer kept it 5 days, and low and behold!, the problem still exists.
I believe the Discovery is a very well built vehicle, I have just been very disappointed with HBL of Tyson's and the quality of their service department. There are other Land Rover dealers in the Washington, D.C. area, but none are as convenient as HBL, so I am somewhat stuck.
I have never been in a more solidly built truck, but if anyone out there is looking to buy a Land Rover and lives in the Northern Virginia area, I would "strongly" encourage you to look hard at the dealers ability to service your vehicle in a "timely" manner. 5 weeks to get a vehicle in for service is a complete outrage.
Previously, I had problems with my inside dome lights, which took the dealer 2 visits and a total of 3 days to repair.
I envy you people that have quality Land Rover dealerships to work with.