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Acura TSX vs. Infiniti G35
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What do folks think about continuing this comparison? As a previous poster mentioned, it's really not a level one and we've kinda been wandering all over the place anyway.
I guess if anyone wants to continue to compare the subject vehicles, please get back to it. If there's no more conversation to be had on the subject, we'll wrap this one up and move on to other topics.
This thread was started by someone who was comparing a TL to a G35 and once in the showroom, started looking at the TSX due to the cheaper price.
Once you drop to the new price point, the G should be out of the equation anyway.
Comparing the TSX to the G35 is a complete joke.
Let's move on.
Of course, that's just my opinion.
I don't understand why people say you can't compare these cars. They both fulfill the same role in the marketplace, just with different emphasis. Does everyone here buy the most expensive car they can afford (actually that's a feeling I get quite often reading these boards)? If not, then why wouldn't you compare vehicles in two different price points? To me it's much easier to make a decisinn among cars in the same price range (a la G vs 3er vs C-class), than it is to try and incorporate value into the equation.
Most people when shopping for cars, compare similar cars in
the price range they are comfortable with. For example, if you are looking for Sports Sedan in $32k to $35k range, you
have Acura TL, Infiniti G35,BMW 328 etc.. These cars have
different size engines and drivetrains, but enough similarities to compare with each other. Of course there is
a good choice of vehicles at any given range of prices.
But most people don't shop $20k car and $35k car at the same time, because it is not a fair comparison.
That's why you won't see Comparison Test on magazines like
this: Nissan Sentra Vs Toyota Avalon
Nissan Altima VS Infiniti G35
Toyota Corolla vs Lexus IS250
My point is Acura TSX is a nice car in its segment, but not
a direct comparison with Infiniti G35.
I hope this makes sense.
The G vs. TSX is reasonable because they are both sporty, entry level luxury sedans that still provide utility and comfort for four passengers.
Yes the TSX is much slower, but it's cheaper. The 3er, C-class and IS250 are all slower than my Maxima, but I wouldn't say the Max is better (in all honesty, I forgot about that I had also tested the IS250, it's slower than the TSX).
Sentra and Avalon are completely different sizes,
Altima isn't anywhere near the G in luxury,
Same with Corolla and IS250.
I'm not trying to convince anyone the TSX is better than the others, that was my decision based on my parameters of what I felt was important. What I am saying is that it is a competitor to the G and other ELLPS, because that's what it is, therefore comparing them is not 'stupid'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR6kAD2qa54
Take a look at this clip on YouTube. I also think this is a very fair comparison. For me, the interior of the g35 is lacking, so, for many of us, the TSX has a more appealing interior, better road feel, more features for the money, luxury feel and about 10k cheaper. I also love the v-tec when it opens up at around 6000rpm. I've got the best of both worlds with this car. Easy driver around the city that's not too bulky and great performance when I want it. The tsx is unique. For some it compares to a mazda 6 and to others it compares to a 325 or A4. To me it's the fun of driving a Civic Si with the comfort of an Accord (ala Fedlawman). Hope you don't race the new Altima coupe with your g35. What then? Might be a an Altima vs G35 thread. Guess it's time to trade it in for the M3.
Watch the video.
2-3 seconds faster to 60?? So, you're saying the G35 does 0-60 in what 6.4, 5.4, or 4.4 seconds? In 2004, the TSX figures for 6spd were Manual Transmission. I would imagine the 2006 with the increase in hp may do a tiny bit better unless the weight went up. Sorry, I think you're way off. I've driven the G35, 2004 coupe many times. Fast car, for sure. But, you sound like you think you're driving an 2008 M3.
Car & Driver July 2003
0-60 - 7.2
1/4 mile - 15.5
Car and Driver 2004 1/4 mile 15.6 @ 91mph with a 6 speed manual TSX.
2004 data
Automobile Acura TSX 16.1 @ 89mph (with a 6 speed). BMW 325i (16.2 @ 87), Audi A4 (16.5 @ 85) and almost the same as the Saab 9-3 Linear (16.0 @ 89).
So, the G35 does 0-60 in 4-2-5.2? Not really.
2003 G35 coupe manual
1/4 mile 14.23 @ 99.4 (motortrend road test)
Class-leading thrust
As you would expect from the above paragraph, the G35 blows all 12 doors off its German rivals, while the Lexus matches the Infiniti's performance. Our tester tore up the track with a scorching 0-60-mph run of 5.6 seconds and a quarter-mile performance of 13.9 seconds at 102 mph. The last 330i we tested, which had a six-speed manual, was nearly a second slower in each test.
You're sweet! Let's lose the name calling. Really. I've read as slow as 6.2 for the G35 and as fast as 6.7 for the TSX (solid point you there!?).
"Your car, for it's price range, accelerates slowly...and you are happy with that"
My car for the price range has more features than a G35. So, while you're pulling away from the Civics, I'm on my blue tooth and punching in addresses you use a map for.
If I want thrills in turns, I do it for real with my s2000, which actually accelerates AND turns.
If i want thrills, I do it with your s2000? I think i know what you were trying to get at. Yup, it's a blast. Prefer it to the G35.
I must have been feeling insecure or something that day
I guess
You're correct, you wanted an M3 or a 911.
Speaking of ignorance. The term is intellectual disabilty. I'm a physician that works with them. "Retard" is actually offensive. One day if you have children, you'll understand.
Onto cars again.
That video was sent to me by someone. I passed it on because I thought it was perfect for our conversation. I was correct. I've also been on the highway with a 2003-2004 g35 from about 120km - 180km. I knew the driver and the g35 pulled away rather slowly. Not bad for a 4.
Sluggish acceleration like that is just unbelievable to me in a sports sedan. Oh, and if you think the tsx has more features, you might want to go drive a new G. It offers almost everything the RL does, and some things it doesn't (Mainly audio).
You're right. I saw the new g37 coupe and the new sedan looks better. I'm not sure if this thread is about the 2008 G35 coupe vs the TSX. I don't care for the RL, so i'm with you there. I've driven the new sedan, as a retal car. It's fast. Just zero appeal to me.
Sluggish acceleration like that is just unbelievable to me in a sports sedan.
That statement is unbelievable.
Oh yeh, here is edmunds (Same site as G stats on the TSX)
I would be embarrassed to even bring up acceleration, or braking for that matter. A tsx will do 0-60 in 6.7 down a hill with a tailwind and slicks....maybe.
0 - 30 (sec): 2.8
0 - 45 (sec): 5.3
0 - 60 (sec): 8.3
0 - 75 (sec): 12.2
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 16.30 @ 86.33
30 - 0 (ft): 33.13
60 - 0 (ft): 127.87
P.S. The only time a G is 10K more than a tsx is with every single option available..rendering your superior features claim even more silly.
I drive what I want...not what I can scrape up the payments for.
If you drive what you want, why do you drive a g35?
I'm in Canada. A TSX with navigation is 40k. G35 with Navigation, and sport package is $51,370.00 before Tax. I'm 35 years of age, with a home, family and I'm a car enthusiast. At this point in my life, I want to save, build assests and drive a fun car that allows me to have financial freedom and own the things I do. I'm the person that Acura was marketing the car for. It fits my life perfectly. So, you're missing the point. I don't want a g35, as it does not appeal to me. Faster or not. I see kids in my area that live at home with their parents driving them. I don't associate the g35 with status or it being worth my extra 10 or more grand. Over 4 years with interest, that's 14k. Keep in mind in Canada you have to earn 28k to get 14k (50% tax bracket here). You're 10k difference means I have to earn 28 thousand dollars more to drive the "next class level" of car. I'm just explaining this to you so you understand that for 40k, which was my price range, it was the best for me. I think it plenty fast and a true joy to drive for me everyday. I'm sure you feel that way about your car.
You have it good in the US, with cars.
Here's a quote for you from a recent comparison test.
That leaves us with the number one car here on the list, the Acura TSX. It's the most complete car on the list, with fluid handling, a gearbox that feels as if all of its innards are coated with Teflon, and refinement that others simply couldn't match. If that wasn't enough, the Acura's technology left us deeply impressed and often with our jaws dropped.
This was comparing the Mazda 6, Jetta 2.0, volvo s40 and Acura TSX.
http://www.carpages.ca/go/roadtest/2006_acura_tsx_vs_mazda6_sport_gtv6_vs_volksw- - - - agen_jetta_20t_vs_volvo_s40_t5_comparison_test.aspx
I think it's fantastic that a car that's not even in the same 'class' as the G35 is being compared to it.
"You really just don't get it."
Will all do respect. We're not on the same page and i'm ok with that.
G37 convertible. Thought you like to see this while you write another message about how fast your car is. :shades:
Agree to disagree and move on. And please knock off the personal remarks altogether.
The TSX is a nice car, but very neutral- nothing to love or hate about it. The G35 seems more of a comparison to the TL (which I think is ugly).
Also test drove the Lexus IS250. Very nice, but given the price difference between the IS and TSX, I'd buy another TSX.
The G35 offers much more than the TSX, including a personality!
I understand...
My decision came down to the 2007 Infiniti G35 -or- the 2007 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640.
For me, it had nothing to do with price or the top speed/0-60 times, even though the G was $300,000 less in price.
The G had more cup holders. :P
The fact is, although I completely agree with you on this, this thread has just become a little out of control and some have gotten a little offensive/defensive with their posts.
There hasn't been any real TSX vs G35 updates to this thread in some time.
My vote is, stick a fork in this one.... it's done.
Now I'm serious - if you are not interested in this discussion, please stop posting in it. It will dry up and blow away if people stop posting. No one is preventing you from "moving on" as you are requesting.
I am going to insist that going forward posts be on topic. Any further "direction" anyone feels the need to give me should be done via email.
Thanks.
My lease will be up in about 2.5 years, so I'll be looking to see what Acura brings out. Right now, I'm having a blast with the TSX, and just put the A-spec ebony finish rims on the car.
I'm really loving the look of the new 3-series coupe and the audi A5. BMW will have to have a stong incentive with interest rates for me, just not paying 7.9% on any car. My TSX was at 2.9%.
I'd like to see a TSX coupe that's lighter and smaller than the G37 come out. Great styling with the new G37. If the TSX goes more 'upscale', it would be interesting to see if they could create a car that offers the same price advantage and options of this TSX. I'd prefer a normally aspirated engine over the turbo, with an optional 4x drive. If they could keep the weight down (not sure that's possible with 4x drive), I'd like to see a 8000rpm red line. Keep the fun factor high, like this version and i'd consider it over a G37 coupe. I don't care for that huge dial on the G37 dash, and sitting in the new coupe, it felt like all the work was done modifying the lines of the outside, but the inside still felt cheaper than the exterior look of the car. I hope that exhaust sound changes on the G37. Anyone else like or dislike that exhaust sound on the G35?? My brother has an FX35, with that same buzzing sound.
I personally love the sound of the exhaust on my G35.
I've heard the FX35 and it is a weird sound, but the G35 does not sound quite the same. It's a lower tone with a little more grunt... not that strange buzzing noise like in the FX.
I've been liking the BMW 335 from what I've seen online.
A co-worker just bought one (coupe) and he parks it right next to my G in the morning.
It's completely ugly when it's sitting next to the G, n my own opinion.
For reference, here's a good photo of the 07 console:
http://www.tall-tales-racing.com/img/cars/g35/images/g35_10_console.jpg
The main thing I don't like about it is the Infiniti Controller. I never use it so it feels wasted to me. (Why use it when I can do everything with the on-wheel controls?!) I also agree on the clock being gimmicky but in a day and age when most teenagers can't seem to read an analog clock it amuses me to have one in the car...
Currently own an '04 TSX / 36,000 miles with absolutely no major mechanical and/or structural issues....I can't believe how well it holds its resale value too!. However, I get the new car itch every few years and my TSX is on the way out. I understand TSX's and TL's will be redesigned in '09, but I'm not sure I want to wait until then...Hmmm, what to do? . I LOVE the G35 and with AWD (needed where I live) and package options its price is comparable to the TL not the TSX.
I agree with previous posts the better comparison of TSX might be (amongst others) the Lexus IS250 or the Audi A4 2.0.
I'll keep up my new car search ..... I think I have it narrowed down to around 12 different models right now...haha. Keep up the good posts!
The infiniti dealer bought out the TSX lease so I'm not responsible for any more payment. I still haven't open up the throttle yet since the car only have 250miles but man I can't wait to drive it everyday. Love the safety of all-wheel drive (I'm from NJ) and the torque of the car. You won't regret it. Almost got into a TL-S but my last Acura and Honda just full of annoying rattles. I came from 4 honda cars before switching to Nissan.
I've owned several Hondas and have an 06' Civic as my commuter vehicle, we've owned other Nissans as well, all trouble free.
We opted for the G35XS, the monthly payment was about $100 per month higher than a TL and about $200+ over a TSX, all with identical lease terms 36months, 15,000 miles just inception fees, between $1000-1500.
They all are very capable vehicles. I doubt anyone here could offer incite as to which is better. In my instance we did not want to wait for the redesigned TL and TSX to see which had AWD, and compare, then go through the negotiating process when we had what amounted to an invoice deal on the G35XS.
Enjoy your Buick - er, I mean TL :P
Yeah, me too, by far. That alone is an excellent reason to be driving a TSX. In my case, the other big one is that the TSX has fold-down rear seats standard and the TL doesn't even offer them.
If I end up with one, I guess I'll just have to learn to live with driving a "girly" car, much as I did when I drove my Miata R type.
I can live with it.