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I'll be interested to hear what the problem is with your Sport MT, good luck.
~marc
In December the Fit will be going to a different Honda mechanic that has worked on my cars in the past. He's been able to diagnose and fix problems other dealerships couldn't solve in multiple visits. So if there really is something wrong with the Fit... he should have a solution. I'll repost with further information!
As for the vibration, I think that is normal, as my shifter has a little bit of vibration in second as well. It's nothing major, but if I hold onto the shifter, I can usually feel a difference whereas in 1, 3, 4, or 5 there is nothing. Maybe someone else can confirm this?
I assume that you can shift from D to S while driving...correct?
Yes, you can shift from D to S and back again while driving. S is not only for setting the paddle shifters in manual mode; you can also drive in S mode as a normal automatic transmission. This mode is intended more for stop and go traffic, according to the owners manual. In S mode, the automatic transmission will not shift into 5th gear. You will experience longer gears from 1st through 4th, higher revs, and sportier feel to the car as opposed to regular D mode. I guess this is to keep up with the lurch and stall nature of city driving so you don't get people cutting you off. Or perhaps its to save the transmission from needless shifting...
I have tried this and it does work. I guess one could potentially drive around in S all of the time with no ill effects other than gas mileage. Or you could drive in S mode and shift into D when you want to bump into 5th gear for cruising speeds.
Compared to my 1998 Corolla (A/T) this car is light years more versatile and adaptible. I couldn't be more pleased. Hope this post helped.
That makes sense, because when I'm on the highway in D and I want to put it in S to keep the car in 5th gear, when I first shift from D to S, the car downshifts to 4th gear, and then I just use the paddle shifters to put it back in 5th. I originally did this because I wasn't sure if the transmission was really sensitive and would drop to 4th every time I pressed the gas on the highway when I was in 5th, but after a week of driving, it seems like D works fine on the highway and it stays in 5th unless you really press down hard on the gas.
I like your solution: shift into S, and then paddle shift into 5th. That would be especially useful on long trips I imagine. I have just tried to be mindful of the terrain and my speed while driving. If it looks like the transmission might shift into 4th on me when I don't need it, I will bump the paddle shifter up. My theory on this is that it momentarily reinforces 5th gear on the car, so that it won't shift out of it for a few seconds. I have no idea if what I'm doing is actually helping though. I still have to pay attention to the road after all
So far the transmission on the Fit has taken some getting used to. My old automatic was a three speed that wouldn't downshift without orders signed in triplicate :P
Thanks,
Henry
It’s a new car and it takes time to get a feel for driving it. I’ve had a new Matrix for 3 months and only now able to avoid stalling it. That’s with over 10 years of experience driving a manual. What can I say – it’s easier to stall than my previous car.
Once you have a feel for it, you'll naturally minimize the revving.
I too have had 20 years of MT driving and got mine four weeks ago.
I noticed a sound too when doing certain things, but it seemed to have more to do with changing surface area between roadway and driveway for example. Sometimes on gravel.
I wonder if it has to do with the antilock brakes, which is something I never had in 20 years. Does the car automatically adjust the necessary brake control changes in different driving situations?
It COULD be me, still getting used to the car as well but it seems to happen the same places all the time (driveway and work driveway with surface changes.)
Anyone know?
Going to ask on the brake board also.
It’s a new car and it takes time to get a feel for driving it. I’ve had a new Matrix for 3 months and only now able to avoid stalling it. That’s with over 10 years of experience driving a manual. What can I say – it’s easier to stall than my previous car.
Once you have a feel for it, you'll naturally minimize the revving.
Don't feel bad. I have been driving MT and I did some crazy stupid stuff waiting to get through the drive through car wash. I accidentally stalled it several times simply because I forgot it was still running. It is just so quiet and purrs. At another point, I tried to start it a second time.
Doesn't work.
I wont make those mistakes again I hope. I also feel pretty good about the car, like I didn't kill it or anything. lol
Henry
Recently I talked with three dealers about the Fit, it looks almost perfect as a utility vehicle for my computer & network repair business,
_Except_
Obviously I don't want the sport package, this will be a work vehicle. But I need cruise control, since many of my service calls involve driving on the freeway for an hour or more.
The only other problem was the dealer loading all his cars with "goodies" which I don't want and can't afford. Probably I can find a way around that eventually, but the cruise control problem has me stumped, for the moment. Maybe something will change next year?
Is it possible that the antilock brakes are causing that rev?
I dont have a clue what drive by wire throttle is, but perhaps that is it?
You realize dont you that you arent supposed to drive a car in cruise while traveling thru traffic, right?
I drove my MT Tercel for 22 years, and the shifting is pretty different on the Fit. Totally different feel really. I have only stalled trying to get into first, and once was taking my boss on a little drive! Embarrassing, but he's a good sport and didn't make fun of me at all. The car behind me honked, which was not a good time.
I think your revving is your lead foot, as you say, but I'd like to know if anyone else experiences the vibration in the gear shift when they let go after shifting into 5th.
Thanks,
Henry
Honest to goodness, I do not think that is it. I am seeing it repeatedly in my daily commute, and always at the same points and times.
I drive a variety of terrain weekly, and find it to occur often when turning and on some hills. Sometimes I am going up, sometimes I am going down.
I cannot figure it out.
I have to cut myself some slack, in that I am still learning how to drive this car.
The mileage is going back up but if it slips again, I am going to have to turn my radio down and work on driving it well/better. :P
It sounds like an engine readjustment of some type but I am not sure.
I have a MT and sometimes I am speeding up, others slowing when the sound occurs. The only thing that seems to be common is that it makes the rev when I am on changing road surfaces (going over a grate, going from gravel to pavement, that sort of thing.)
Anyone know anything about this?
It may be nothing, or just normal part of the throttle or braking system, but it would help to know.
Thanks in advance.
It sounds like an engine readjustment of some type but I am not sure.
I have a MT and sometimes I am speeding up, others slowing when the sound occurs. The only thing that seems to be common is that it makes the rev when I am on changing road surfaces (going over a grate, going from gravel to pavement, that sort of thing.)
Anyone know anything about this?
It may be nothing, or just normal part of the throttle or braking system, but it would help to know.
Thanks in advance.
It sounds like an engine readjustment of some type but I am not sure.
I have a MT and sometimes I am speeding up, others slowing when the sound occurs. The only thing that seems to be common is that it makes the rev when I am on changing road surfaces (going over a grate, going from gravel to pavement, that sort of thing.)
Anyone know anything about this?
It may be nothing, or just normal part of the throttle or braking system, but it would help to know.
Thanks in advance.
It sounds like an engine readjustment of some type but I am not sure.
I have a MT and sometimes I am speeding up, others slowing when the sound occurs. The only thing that seems to be common is that it makes the rev when I am on changing road surfaces (going over a grate, going from gravel to pavement, that sort of thing.)
Anyone know anything about this?
It may be nothing, or just normal part of the throttle or braking system, but it would help to know.
Thanks in advance.
So, about that revving sound.
Is it the drive by wire throttle?
Henry
Henry
I WISH* it was warm enough to run air but it has been fairly cold most of the time here. It happens in all types of weather.
I have the MT, not the auto. I am desperately looking to find someone that understands the drive by wire throttle to see if that device explains the sound I hear.
It is very consistant. I am sure both feet arent on any pedal at any point in time when it happens.
When I go from road to gravel or gravel to road, it is in first gear and just starting to "kick in" or is it "kick out" depending on whether I am starting or stopping.
The other time it happens in second is going down a steep hill, 20 mph and it seems also as tho I hit some gravel at the top too that might be spinning it out. Not sure.
Anyone?
I hear a sort of revving at certain points in my commute and I do not know if it has something to do with the drive by wire throttle.
I do not know much about it, and any explaination is useful.
I am used to a car that is NOT run by a computer, or minimally so, so this is a new thing for me. Never had ABS either.
I notice a sort of revving sound during certain points in travel, mainly going from one type of road surface to another. (ie gravel to road, road to gravel, road to grated bridge and back etc.)
Does the engine or transmission "adjust itself" when you hit different types of road surfaces?
Help anyone!
Where did you ever hear that one?
Where did you ever hear that one?
That little warning box on page 127 with the bright orange warning sign that says "use the cruise control only when travelling on open highways in good weather".
I realize that is vague but in previous cars also it was spelled out not to use cruise in heavy traffic.
Part of the reason being that if you use the cruise to slow down, it does not light the brake light and someone can easily come up on you too fast because they do not know you disengaged. I would imagine hitting cancel would also not engage the brake light.
And we all already know not to use it on wet roads, right?
When I take my foot the gas, my brake lights don't come on.
I also run with scissors and play with BB Gun's.
Not sure what you are getting at here.
I just explained why it has been said that you should not use the cruise in heavy traffic.
I occasionally run with scissors too.
They are not NEARLY as deadly as the roadways.
So....I prefer to drive on my own when the traffic is heavy.
Actually it COULD be the drive by wire throttle.
When I pull out of my driveway, and straighten up the steering wheel as I begin to engage the engine to move forward on the straightaway, it revs up and adjusts (settles back down).
The exact same thing happens when I am pulling out of my parking space at work and straighten the wheel.
It happens basically when I go from park/no motion, to straightening the wheel on the level surface/straightaway.
It ALSO happens when I am pulling into same (pulling onto gravel driveway with a pretty good cut of the steering wheel, or, pulling into gravel parking lot at a pretty good turn.)
It happens so consistantly. It revs, then settles once i am "on solid ground" so to speak.
It MIGHT even do it after making a left or right at a regular stop, when I straighten wheel up to drive but I haven't paid THAT close attention.
Can someone else pay close attention to their MT at times like these? (ie solid turns such as parking/pulling out of a parking spot, driveway etc?)
Let me know?
I have a friend that just bought same car and I might ask to borrow her car for a quickie. It might give me peace of mind.
It's the same functionality as many other AT cars that let you 'bump' the AT transmission, except that the interface is via paddles rather than on the stick on the floor.
The car will not let you shift inappropriately - if you try to go into a gear that would take the car past redline, the car ignores the command and won't shift.