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Or maybe that little override button is always pressed on??
What do you think?
I currently own a 2007 Yaris Hatchback, and I am please with the mpg. I am considering another new car, but the Accent mpg should be better than it is.
Kuripot
I think my car has a problem, this all happened after I used the tank all the way till it was empty last year. Then, it started to have startup problems so I used Gumout and the problem went away but low MPG stayed. I don't know the MPG before this incident.
Until now, I have NEVER after 21,000 miles gotten anywhere near the EPA estimates. First of all let me state that I ACCURATELY check my MPG's by totally filling the tank and resetting the trip odometer to 0 then driving on the tank and then refilling to the top and then divide miles driven by gallons filled to the top.
OK, here's what I have found works in my case to improve milage. I am not advocating it's use for anybody but myself, but I can tell you it works for me. My Accent is a 5speed manual tranny and I'm sure that most of you others that have the same model year with a manual gearbox can attest to the fact that 5th gear is geared WAY TOO LOW for the 65 mph speed limit on the highway. Sometimes it almost seems that it feels as if I am still in 3rd when on the highway, ...but I'm not. My wife suggested when going down hills in what would normally be 5th gear, to drift down the hill in NEUTRAL instead.....with the engine ON , of course. As a result of her suggestion, this tank got me the highest MPG ever posted since we owned the car. 37.61 MPG!!!
My other car is a VW Passat TDI at 296,000 miles and I always get 45 + on that car which even with diesel being $1.00 + per gallon still is more economical than this little pod of a car and might I add a whole lot safer for my kids to be in the back seat as well. Man, I remember when I had my 92 GEO Metro and CONSISTENTLY GOT 45 + and now we try desperately to eek out over 30mpg. And car manufacturers brag about highway milage at 30!!?? WTF? :mad:
John
I will be going on trip to DC this weekend in the VW and will be getting 50 + on the HGWY using alternative fuel as I have done for the last 8 tanks which costs me about $.50/ gallon to make. I am not a shill for any company, so if anyboby is interested please look it up on the internet. Sorry about mentioning Scanguage by name.
Regarding the coasting, like I said... It works for me and I do not suggest it for everyone. However, I must disagree with you in that you must not be familiar with the 2007 tranny. IT IS JUST SIMPLY GEARED TOO LOW! YOU MUST ACCELERATE DOWN A HILL ON THE INTERSTATE to keep it from slowing down. Coasting does improve speed DRAMATICALLY....PERIOD. Check out some others' post on this thread from those who have the 2007 with manual trannies. I have literally taken it out of gear and re-shifted into 5th thinking that I put it in 3rd by mistake. I understand the engine is not under load going down hills in gear, but the low 5th gear ratio simply acts as a brake which in turn causes the driver to HAVE TO accelerate to keep up to hghwy speeds, which in turn DRAMATICALLY decreases fuel efficiency because the engine must be PUSHED to go DOWN a hill. Once again, you MUST PUSH THE GAS PEDAL DOWN, unlike you posted. Yes, it is that bad because it is geared THAT low in 5th. I hope I'm making my point, it geared that low my friend.
As for the safety issue, I'm not sure if I buy that either. If evasive action is needed the driver needs to shift into gear. Let me add this caveat to my previous statements... I do not recommend this coasting technique in and inclement weather such as rain, snow or sleet.
As for legality, I guess if I'm ever driving with a policman in my car I won't use the technique either. LOL
In summary , with kids and wife in the car I never got over 31 mpg with the tires inflated to 95% of maximum allowed pressure. Now, with this coasting method with wifey and kids in car for most trips, I got 37.61 on this tank.
2002 Accent Auto Transmission, hatchback 1.6 Engine
I think I need to have the following done; spark plugs, wires, air filter, fuel filter, cleaning the throttle, check the o2 sensor..
Anythingelse I should do? 21mpg in city 33 mpg in hwy
somebody on a different folder said he cleaned the carberator. This car does not have carberator does it?
As a feather footer, I always got good MPG out of my cars. Finally, on 3 day trips over 1400, 3000, 4000, & 5500 mountain passes & to Mt. Rainier, the Accent performed spectacularly, giving 41.5, 42.6 & 45.1 MPG.
Again, these were not flat highway MPG, but excellent mountain driving trips, starting near sea level.
Agree with others tho, that the Accent has too low a gearing & should be driven slowly to get MPG well over 40MPG. However, the Toyota Yaris & Honda Fit manual gearing is best at lower speeds too.
I don't see a problem with Accent numbers. There are WAY too many variables that dictate what a user is getting to draw large sweeping conclusions from one user. From looking at the weight, engine and gearing it is pretty obvious that the two vehicles should be within a 1-3mpg difference of each other. The FIT has the advantage. If there are larger numbers than that, there is something wrong with the vehicle, or you are driving in unusual conditions that don't reflect the average user.
If you consider that the street price of the FIT is $3000-$6000 higher, depending on configuration, that difference obviously doesn't favor the FIT in terms of cost of transportation. Even if you figure the lower side of the cost differential up-front ($3000) and the Maximum difference in terms of efficiency (3MPG @ $4.00/gal), at 15,000 miles per year you have a $163/year difference in gasoline paid per year (favoring the FIT) and a $696/year extra cost in the vehicle favoring the Accent. I figured the cost of money amortized over five years @ 6% interest. The payment would be $58 per month to pay for the extra cost of the FIT. The fuel savings if it gets 3MPG better than the Accent would only be $14.25 per month @ $4.00/gallon. The FIT cost an extra $44 per month due to the up-front premium cost of the vehicle.
I think that is a fair comparison both in terms of the market cost of the vehicles (what you can actually buy them for), the cost of money considered on a conservative metric, and the cost of gas (best guess on this one). If you drive a LOT more than 15,000 miles a year the numbers get a little better for the FIT but not enough to overcome the up-front cost difference. If gasoline drops back below $4/gallon that will favor the Accent.
If you plan to sell the car in a couple years, the resale value favors the Honda but when you consider the up-front cost, the better resale value is largely negated. I can buy the Accent for less than $10,000 out the door, sales tax and all related dealership cost. The cheapest I've been quoted on the Honda is $16,250 out the door. That is a $6250 difference in price that wouldn't be made-up even if the price of gas quadrupled to $16/gallon and if the Accent got 6MPG worse fuel economy. Even under those conditions, the Accent is cheaper.
On a seperate note, while my Accent was a very nice and reliable car without any problems, I just sold it on eBay and went backwards to a 2003 VW Jetta TDI Diesel because I am making my own alternative fuel for both it and my Passat at $0.46/ gallon and getting 45- 50 mpg. Sorry, I'm not bragging but doing the math, it didn't make sense to keep the Accent even with the 100,000 mile warranty, which BTW become 60,000 miles for subsequent owners despite what some sellers on eBay will tell you. All in all, if you don't have access to used french fry oil, an Accent is fine car to drive. Just don't believe the EPA estimate sticker unless you plan to drift down hills in neutral like I did on the interstate ( in clear weather only), in which case you can EXCEED the EPA highway estimates by 2 - 3 mpg's. Bye ,. bye.
Maybe it's what they call in the trade a "loss leader"?
Anyway, it's clear that even if the $6,899 offer has special conditions, the Internet pricing is available to anyone who asks for it. Example:
GS invoice: $11,160
Less $1,600 = $9,560
Less rebate ($1000 in NJ; it's $1500 in some other states): $8,560
More than enough room to get OTD for under $10k.
You can dispute hard facts all you want. The point is, you are wrong (as in, W-R-O-N-G). It is very possible to buy a new Accent for under $10k. Go to the Towne Hyundai web site, look at their Internet pricing on the Accent, published for all to see, look up the invoice price on the Accent GS (here at Edmunds.com for example), and you can verify this fact for yourself. Reality has set in. You simply refuse to acknowledge it.
You also may not be aware that used fuel-efficient cars are often selling for more than new models now. I think that's very odd, but I've confirmed it via multiple reports here as well as by checking pricing in my own town. For example, dealers in my area are routinely charging more than current MSRP for used Civics. And I see that even used 2008 Sonata GLSes with 20k miles or more are selling for what I could get a new 2009 (a better car at that) for at dealers like Towne. Go figure. So in today's world, getting $9400 for your Accent isn't all that exceptional, and in fact you said that yourself in that you sold it for well under KBB value. Why, I don't know. Maybe you've heard: gas is $4 a gallon, and small cars are in immense demand. Maybe you should have asked over KBB for your Accent?
Next topic?
Sorry my friend, but in Pensacola, FL they are selling for well under the 10K figure, and even the Elantra is under 10K, so you haven't been doing your homework in shopping around. Along the FL panhandle and into Mobile AL they are doing a booming business selling them under the 10K prices.
van
07/23/2008 37.12
07/19/2008 40.47
07/16/2008 36.72
07/12/2008 35.15
07/10/2008 35.62
07/03/2008 40.70
06/28/2008 39.23
06/24/2008 36.34
06/21/2008 40.11
06/17/2008 36.25
06/14/2008 34.26
06/10/2008 35.69
06/05/2008 34.26
05/30/2008 34.96
05/26/2008 34.06
05/19/2008 38.00
05/13/2008 34.06
05/08/2008 33.33
I have hard numbers. I could walk down to the dealer and buy a new 2008 base model Accent, without the A/C & the radio, for a hair under $10,000 even after paying WA State sales tax and all the dealer fees. So could anyone else for that matter, they have about eight of them in stock. The advertised price is $8995 but after you pay the little dealer nits & picks plus sales tax the final bill (the only one I care about) is $10,000.
This is in the Seattle area with the current $1500 Hyundai incentive. If I could buy one for $7000 I'd buy it just to have a spare car. :-)
Those milage numbers look really good. Once again, that really reinforces that Hyundai has the least expensive thing to operate on the road..... bar none.
I've driven pretty normal, nothing too speedy and not too slow. Just my normal driving style. The tires have the dealer 30 PSI and I plan to max them out up around 42 PSI. After break-in I'm going to run a high fuel efficiency Mobile 1 synthetic and see what impact that has on fuel economy. The Accent only holds 3.5 Qts of oil so a synthetic change is only an extra $6 per oil change compared to using the generic Walmart oil I'm also thinking of indexing the plugs to see if that provides any additional economy.
I doubt anything but changing my driving habits will have much over 1-2 MPG difference. I'm very happy with 36 MPG though and it seems to do great in my city driving (most of my long term driving will be city). If I can average anything over 35 MPG that will be 5 MPG better than I anticipated based upon the sticker EPA rating.
I'm pretty consistent. All three tanks so far have been 36-37 MPG with my 5-speed Accent. That is a good 6-7 MPG better than EPA estimates and I've driven in my normal manner, not slow and not fast and no hyper-mile techniques. The vehicle has just over 1000 miles on it now so it should be past any potential break-in.
One other note, I drove for about 30 miles past when the fuel light came on. I filled the tank and it only took 9.9 gallons so there is a pretty good buffer once that light comes on.
My lifetime average is right at 36.1 mpg. I have over 71k miles on the car. The vast majority of that is highway. But I like to keep it slow, going 60mph for the most part on the interstate. I also try to accelerate gently and ease up to red lights. I had an aftermarket cruise control installed but didn't see a difference in mileage. My main reason for the cruise was all the highway driving and I was so tired of keeping a steady speed with my foot. The highest full tank mpg I recorded was 42.7 and the lowest was 28.4. With over two years' of data, there is a definite effect from the hot weather of summer, even using the AC against winter temps.
To date, I'm averaging 35.5 MPG overall. My break-down is 70% city, 30% HWY overall. My lone highway trip was a 3-4 hour trip to Portland down I-5 with 70mpg & A/C blowing. I averaged 37 MPG on that trip. Most of my 100% city tanks come in at 35-36 MPG.
My worst tank was 31.2 MPG and my best tank has been 37.3 MPG. Not too shabby.
Most of my driving is short trips with very little highway use above 50mph.
any ideas what can i do to stop fast gas spend?
thanks a lot Hyundai :lemon:
It's a great car. Don't know why it's never given it's mention in fuel efficient articles/reports. The cars that are mentioned do get better mileage (some not THAT much better), but they cost 3 times as much. My little Accent was $9300 new after taxes, tags, and registration in 2001. Can't beat it!
If your fuel has ethanol in it, then it also hurts your mileage.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
I do easily. All the time in every car I've ever owned, I can easily hit the EPA Hwy number at 70mph.
There is a high speed portion (to 80mph) in the EPA testing that have been added in to the formula since 2008. The EPA Hwy numbers are NOT based solely on the test you noted. Haven't been for 5 years now....
I too easily exceed the highway rating on my 2005 Accent (37 vs 30), and my 2008 Subaru (28-30 vs 26). My 2004 Dodge Dakota at about 18-19 has a hard time meeting either the old rating (20) or the updated rating (19).
For the 2012 Accent, I only see a 37 highway rating, not a 40 as mentioned in a previous article. Was that a change at some point?
The 37 mpg figure should be achievable by most drivers on the highway at normal highway speeds of 65 to 70 mph. Not uphill, not driving into a 40 mph headwind, and not at 75 or 80 mph.
Drivers should not be observing 28, 29, 30 mpg Hwy. It defies logic in small, light cars turning relatively low rpms. These cars (mainly Elantra and Accent) don't require that much energy to maintain a constant 65 mph. When owners report under 30 mpg Hwy, I scratch my head because it doesn't make sense. Now if they are averaging 30 mpg in mixed driving? That makes sense.