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Hyundai Azera Maintenance and Repair
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I only have 1000 miles on my
babycar so I have time.I have never heard of any fleet manager, be it car rental, corporate fleet or government agency calling for oil changes at 3000 mile intervals. I can't believe that any SAE oil will break down or become contaminated at this interval, unless there are certain extreme conditions such as dust or sand storms that might in some manner allow these particles entry into the oil system.
The Hyundai owners manuel does not make mention of synthetic oil beging the lubricant of choice or even recommended.
This is purely owner's choice.
At $80 for a synthetiic oil change at yoyur dealer and at $110 from mine, would some dealerships want to steer you away from using synthetic - (or them having to stock it)?
Just seems to be a huge premium to pay over the cost of a dino-oil change.
As far as not being able to switch back to dino-oil in the future, I have no idea why that would be so...but someone else here might know why!
I buy a case of Mobil 1 Synthetic at Costco or any place with a good price...usually about $30 a case and my dealer charges me about $20 to do the change including the filter so total cost for the oil change is under $55. Just supply your OWN oil and let them replace it and the filter. Will save you a lot of money and I have been doing it this way for about 10 years.
IMO, you should always use synthetic over standard oil. Better properties all around and I easily go every 5K miles between oil changes. I always change out to synthetic after the motors recommended break-in period. If you have 1K on your car, let it go another 500 miles and then make the switch.
Depends what I'm doing with the vehicle if I use synthetic or not.
Fact - Your car is not performing better or lasting longer due to using synthetic oil - regular oil works just fine.
I have never changed my oil more than every 7,500 miles in any car I have owned. I have lived in AZ (extreme heat) and San Diego (extreme stop and go traffic) for my entire driving life. Mechanics constantly praise me for the condition of my cars and the care I give them. Further, I have never used synthetic oil nor will I ever use synthetic oil until a study is published by some agency/group with no ties to the automotive industry that says using synthetic oil increases hp or mpg or engine life.
I'm going to use it at my next oil change.
I disagree with those above about synthetic having no additional benefits but I do agree that if you change the oil every 3K miles you are wasting your money. I typically go every 5K but at times will let it slip to 6K. Could probably go longer but in my mind it's not worth taking the chance for the price of an oil change.
Every one has a strong opinion on the topic of syn versus dino as I learned in other forums from many years back. Do what you want and what makes you feel comfortable. I have been a syn. user for the past 15 years and will never use dino again.
Happy New Year!
Any suggestions or experiences on what to use and what not to use :confuse:
Target sells a 10 pack (I think) for $8.99 that are really good quality...nice and thick. Easiest way to spot em...they're orange.
I have found that the detailer's mist helps keep them dust free a bit longer than with cleaners.
There are some plastic scratch removers on the market. Some work OK. If you can't find one at your local auto supply shop, go to a marine supply shop.
MMM makes a good line of products.
i also noticed my passenger wiper blade rubs against the front hood. is there a TSB on this?
Take my advice and take your service business to an independent - you'll get the same work done (they have access to the warranty requirements) for $100 (tops) on a 15K.
If this is true I would consider selling. argh
I did love those Bosch plat +4 plugs in my Camry though...WHEW!!!
By the way...just how easy is it to remove the manifold???
There is a relatively easy fix for that which works out quite well. :surprise:
Simply take any solution that contains acid and spread in all over the lower part of your bayonet gauge.
Leave it on for a short while and then clean it off, and you will have removed that dark
color, and now you should be able to see where the oil measures much more readily.
HTHs
Oil change/filter, fluid top offs, multi point safety check and complimentary car wash for $26.64 otd.
I doubt that they use Mobil 1 full synthetic.
I can only assume since it was done at a Hyundai dealership, the service department used what Korea specifies.
I have had several contacts with the engineers at Mobil regarding their full synthetic oil. This was initiated because I owned a large, under powered, diesel powered boat which required me to push engines at close to maximum to achieve proper speed. Oil analysis determined considerable metal wear until the introduction of full synthetic oil.
Not only was the wear reduced, but the fuel economy was improved, proving better efficiency through reduced friction. Different Hyundai dealerships use different oils.
Hyundai does not specify nor require full synthetic oil, although it, in my opinion, is vastly superior lubricant.
Time does NOT matter.
I proved that to myself when I left Mobil 1 in my Focus for three and one half years, and when I changed it, I
took a sample and had it analysised and the report came back that the oil was fine and still okay for service.
When Mobil 1 first came out, the recommended change interval by Mobil Oil was once a year or 25K miles.
Mileage . . I am in the process of detemining that.
Last change was for over 15K and the lab said the oil was still serviceable, so I am going even longer this time.
I have used synthetics since they first became general available, even prior to Mobil 1, so am
generally more knowledgeable than the average certified car nut when it comes to their use.
WalMart does indeed use Mobil 1 and is probably the least expensive way to go.
I have watched them open quart bottles right off the store shelves so I know that they do in fact pour Mobil 1.
dborth
I also doubt that the T.O. dealer is using Mobil 1 when they change your oil, as that price would not cover their parts expenses.
:surprise:
Walmart offers many oil options in their oil change service area.
Mobil 1 is not their "standard" oil change.
I also doubt that the T.O. dealer is using Mobil 1 when they change your oil, as that price would not cover their parts expenses.
My original post was informational about what I paid for an "Oil Change" at a Hyundai dealer, compared to what other Azera owners might be paying, you know....sharing information. If the engine wears out because my dealer uses a rope-a-dope oil that falls below the expectations of the Mobile 1 gurus, so be it. With 21 lease payments remaining and the Hyundai warranty, I think I'll be fine.
Agreed!
If you lease your car and will turn it in within the warranty period, it makes no sense to buy premium motor oil.
How many of you take your car to a dealer for scheduled maintenance? Any issues with warranty if you go to a local shop?
If you are able to document Hyundai prescribed maintainence, there are no warranty issues, even if it is a do it yourself program.
(is this better Pat?)
Same dealership wants $79.99 for full synthetic oil change.
As you can buy a case of Mobil 1 full synthetic for under $30.00, it seems like quite a rip off.
The problem is that the dealer is doing the standard oil change at an artificially low price to get you in the door. Once on a lift, he can sell you more stuff.
Why doesn't he also discount the synthetic oil change to an artificial "lost leader"?
I dunno, seems dumb.
Here in the DC area, the oil change is being done for $35. Not sure how much of a difference it is if you ask for synthetic oil. Never bothered to ask since I do my own.
In California it's $135--160 (ouch!).
Sure glad I don't live in CA any more! LOL
Hard to believe it's that cheap in a big metro area what with workers' bennies and overhead. Interesting. Is it a very small dealership, like a mom and pop? Maybe I just don't visit Hyundai dealerships enough in general. They may charge less.
ANYWAY...the difference in price between your dealer's regular and synthetic oil changes doesn't make any sense. He should change that and bring them into some sort of rational proportion.