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The Future of Mercedes-Benz?

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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I think some of the years may be off from what we know here because they're using the years in which they were introduced in Europe.

    Yes there is one for the S-Class too:

    W136 / W191: 1951-1962
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    W189: 1954-1957
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    W121: 1954-1960
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    W111 / W112: 1959-1971
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    W108: 1965-1972
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    W116: 1972-1980
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    W126: 1979-1991
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    Another Mercedes forever etched into my mind when growing up. Loved the 560SEL to death.

    W140: 1991-1998
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    The sheer size of this car was unbelievable when I first saw it in the fall of 1991. One of my favorite S-Classes.

    W220: 1998-2005
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    Without a doubt the "prettiest" S-Class ever made, dowwright stunning with the AMG package. It didn't live up the legendary build quality of previous models though.

    W221: 2005-2012?
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    The new and largely improved kid on the block. This model seems to be a vast improvement over the W220 in every way. It is built better and is proving to be very reliable.

    M
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    Now those are some cars! I'll take one of each. Although I don't know about that original 220 being a real S class...it's still a great lineup.

    About the W110...the lowline pontons remained in production through early 1961, when the lowline fintails replace them. I think a lot of people just see a fintail as a fintail, and get the dates a little off. There are many 1960 and 1961 pontons out there. But for the others, yeah the earliest year given is the first year of Euro market production, which will usually predate NA model years by 1 or 2 years.

    Beautiful W126 shot, yes. Great colors, timeless design. Probably my favorite car growing up too...not many 10 year olds would have wanted a big heavy sedan so much, but the design caught my eye from a young age. There's not much you could do to improve the design, it is still very handsome and elegant.

    Funny that the W221 used has Japanese plates, too.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Merc, thanx for the nice pics. It's cool to see how a specific car has progressed. :)

    Rocky
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    We must be around the same age because the W126 and W124 were the Benzes I wanted as a kid and early teen.

    Here is a through the years look at the SL:

    W198 1954-1963 (300SL Gullwing / Roadster)
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    R121 1955-1963 (190SL)
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    W113 1963-1971 (Pagoda)
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    R107 1971-1989
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    This is the first SL I ever remember. I remember it being called something akin to a German Corvette, but of course with a lot more polish.

    R129 1989-2001
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    This was my favorite Mercedes for 10 years or more. This car put the "tank" description in Mercedes' cars for sure. Back in 1989 it was so ahead of anything else on the road it wasn't even funny. The engine, safety systems, build quality and style had no equal in the class.

    R230 2001-2011?
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    Today's stunner and still head of the class and improved to perfection for 2007. Arguably Mercedes' greatest car.

    M
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    This was my favorite Mercedes for 10 years or more. This car put the "tank" description in Mercedes' cars for sure. Back in 1989 it was so ahead of anything else on the road it wasn't even funny. The engine, safety systems, build quality and style had no equal in the class.

    I 100% agree ;)

    However, the competition has caught up or passed by Mercedes, well at least from my perspective.

    Rocky

    P.S. Those were some nice pics Merc.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    The first MB I really remember is the W123, which were common when I was young, even in the smallish town where I lived. There were a few older models about too, but I wasn't too interested in them - I thought fintails were just too strange. I remember a doctor friend of my parents had a W126, which I thought was a great car even then. I remember when the W124 came out, someone on the same block as my aunt got one, and I remember sneaking over to look at it...40K seems like all the money in the world when you are 9!

    The SL has perhaps the most consistent heritage of any mass produced modern car. Some have been weaker than others, but there are more similarities than differences.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    Some MB models might vary, but nobody has met the SL and the S class yet. IMO, nothing out there compares to them right now. Lexus might meet the S on paper, but the numb isolated driving experience hurts it.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Ummmm, perhaps the Lexus doesn't quite meet the S-class because its a little numb. However its pretty darn fast and is packed with the latest Gadgets, and is ultra reliable. If i were to choose it would be a hard one. If you were to AMG me a S600, then it's a no brainer. ;)

    Rocky

    P.S. I still like the looks of the XLR, over the SL. Only slightly though. ;)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    If I could afford an LS, I could afford an S...so that's what I would choose.

    The XLR just looks a little disjointed to me, too edgy, and the top lowering sequence is inelegant. SL keeps advancing, XLR needs to do so as well.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Okay, I agree the XLR, needs a big upgrade.

    Rocky
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    I am sure it will get one, too. Some normalized styling and maybe a little tuning. Competition is a good thing.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    okay, agree........

    Rocky
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Both those cars are more affordable with each passing year. I suspect a lot of W124 500Es have been abused by now though.

    Fin, now is your chance. In the Autoweek classifieds there is a 1994 E500 with only 8K on the clock! It was supposedly owned by Al Unser Jr. I'm sure they want big money for it especially since no price is listed. That is about as perfect a E500 as you'll ever find.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Yeah the W124, W126 and R129 were just that special to me. I wanted a 560SEC so bad after a comparo C&D did back in the day. I believe they compared it to a BMW 635CSi (another favorite) and Jag XJS. Then of course I remember the 300CE vs. Legend Coupe vs. Eldorado comparo. Then there was the 300E, STS, Legend comparo in 1986, naturally MB walked away with wins in all of these.

    M
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    The late 80s certainly was the pinnacle. Look how many of these cars are still around in nice condition, 20 years later. That says something.

    I remember when the 129 came out and demand was so steep, they were bringing 100K! It seemed insane then. Today you can get a new SL for less.

    I can't believe Caddy was even in those comparos. Not their best day!
  • When I graduate I'm planning to get the W124 500E. Today I saw one for $14500. For its extreme rarity, this is as inexpensive as one can get. They usually go for $30,000 even for a 14 year old car.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    Those are fantasic cars

    Just be sure to find one that's been cared for...they are falling into less than careful maintainers more and more every day.
  • Just got back from 2 weeks in Italy and MB everywhere....but many models unavailable here. Really liked the A Class and the Viano. Tho we had an 02 C Class Sport that had spent more time in the shop :lemon: : than on the road (all under MB warranty,at least) for the 2 yrs we put up with all of it, I might consider the A if it ever came here.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    As merc1 put his "new" ride here, so will I.

    Phone pics, so they can be a little washed out

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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Ooooh nice. What year? You got rid of the C43 AMG?

    M
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    It's an 02, last of the W210s.

    I wasn't seriously looking for a new car, but I couldn't pass up this deal. It cost 10K more than I paid for the C43...and it is half as old, has half the mileage, and is much more comfortable, not to mention can actually fit 4 people comfortably. That's how I rationalized it anyway.

    They actually gave me private party book for it, and that combined with the sales tax savings made it attractive, as I couldn't have got much more than that total, and who knows how long I would have had to try to sell it.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    fintail,

    Is that a S-class you bought ?

    Rocky
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    Nope, E55, but still a fair dose of gadgetology, at least for me.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Did I see AMG letters on the back or was my eyes playing games ?

    Rocky

    P.S. BTW nice car. I love Black Benz's..... :)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    Of course it's AMG...nothing normal for me.

    Thanks. It's actually a semi-dark grey. 'Tectite' is the official color name. It's a one-year-only color on W210s.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    LOL, I do really like it. How much power fintail ?

    0-60 in 4.?

    Rocky
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    349 hp, most sources I see give 0-60 in 4.8-5.1. It is a nearly 3800 lb car. 391 lb/ft helps, too.

    They have a good unrestricted top end, too
  • Congrats on the new E! I've only driven the 430 4matic so I am not familiar with the AMG, but it was such a nice car...
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,596
    Thanks. And yeah, it does seem pretty nice. I was never won over by the W210, and I am still a little unimpressed by the rear end styling...but it seems to be very well made and is comfortable. It feels like an S class compared to my C43.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    WOW.........That's awesome ;)

    If you don't mind me asking fintail, how much did she set you back pal ?

    Is that make/model year pretty reliable ?

    What kind of stereo does it have ? does it have those "bladder" inflatable seats ?

    Rocky
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