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Is the warranty through Mercedes Benz, where you can bring it to any dealership?
Was the 5 year warranty a big part of the negotiations?
Thanks.
(1) I really dont think this is the right car to own without a warranty!! We've had some very costly repairs and I am guessing this will only get worse as the car passes 50k miles. I would suggest thinking about this when buying the car from a dealer. We probably could have negotiated an extended warranty for a much better deal at purchase.
(2) Of course you can buy the extended warranty from anywhere you want, so shopping around can pay off. Our original dealer offered us $4600 in October, then more recently when we called back they quoted over $5000! We ultimately found a dealer in Oregon offering us 48 month up to 60,000 additional miles for $3579 (including taxes).
(3) shame your original dealer! We called our dealer back and explained the 2 quotes we had gotten from them, plus the many, many more reasonable quotes. We also asked them to look at the service record of the car and ask if they thought it would be a wise move to continue owning this car without warranty coverage. Bingo, it got escalated pretty quickly to the owner, who agreed he would beat the lowest quote and come in at a round $3500 including taxes. I think it was pretty clear that we wouldn't have bought another car there in the future (or even continued servicing this one there) if they hadnt worked with us on this.
Steel Grey, P1, 7 seat option, panorama sunroof, heated front seats. Dealer is asking $47,900.
Seems like a good price based on the low miles and the remaining warranty. Any thoughts?
Original 2010 msrp of vehicle+options you mentioned was ~ $55.7k. I saw a sale last month with same specs plus parktronics option - 14k miles here is San Diego listed by a dealer for $48,450. So, yours is OK deal to go. I would go for $45k.
I have been checking the forums and think that the reliability problems have improved since 2008. I have plenty of time to find out.
My concern with R350 is that it is very difficult to resell it, Its maintenance cost and low fuel economy. I am inclined more towards the R350 because it has more space compared to Acura and its rear DVD entertainment system.
Thanks,
Ven
My choice was MB R-350. I talked to my friend who has been driving since 06 and his suggestion was to stay away from it after warranty is over. It seems every repair costs a fortune and some thing or another goes wrong every week. I am seriously considering MDX tech package but i so desperately wish I had R350 without all these repair issues.
I guess I am in similar situation to choose between lexus GX 470 or MDX or R350. I think I would go with a vehicle which would have bumper to bumper factory warranty till 100k miles and then sell it the day warranty expires.
But personally, I would recommend to lease instead of buying. Lease brand new. If you do it right and make a good deal - you will end up paying less per month than the actual depreciation of this vehicle, and you don't need to worry about buying extended warranty. Everything is covered. If you fall in love with your car, then you can buy the remaining balance at the end of the lease...
I want EVERYONE to know, that in the past two weeks, I found out through Orange Park Mercedes that WE WERE GROSSLY MISLEAD AND DECEIVED BY OUR SALESMAN when we purchased our extended warranty from the PENSACOLA MERCEDES DEALERSHIP in Pensacola, Florida. I believe there's only one MB dealer there, so you don't have to worry about getting them confused.
After service on my car, I found out my warranty runs out next November, probably before I even hit 50K! Now, HOW CAN THAT BE WHEN WE HAVE A 100K WARRANTY? Well, OPMB explained what I actually bought. WE WERE SCAMMED@#(%!!!!!! WE WERE LIED TO about how the extended warranty worked and our warranty will run out about the same time as when the original warranty w run out.
I will NEVER BUY ANOTHER MERCEDES AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS. NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE, NOR WANTS TO MAKE THIS RIGHT. IT'S A MAINTENANCE CA$H HOG AND I AM PI$$ED ABOUT BEING LIED TO BY the PENSACOLA MERCEDES BENZ SALESMAN.
PENSACOLA MERCEDES IS CUSTOMER NO SERVICE SINCE I AM AN OUT OF TOWN PATRON... AND YES, I CALLED AND TALKED TO THEM, BUT THEY ARE HANDS OFF. I am calling my lawyer though.
DOGGONE IT ...WE THOUGHT WE HAD YEARS OF ADDITIONAL WARRANTY ACCORDING TO THE SALES PERSON!!!! WE WOULD HAVE *NEVER* PAID $2K+/- FOR ONLY 10,000 MILES OF ADDITIONAL WARRANTY!!!!!!
No joke. However, we were told that when we purchased the 100,000 mile extended warranty, it gave us an additional three years of warranty for our money. We were told it normally sold for $2,500 plus, but they sold it to us for less. Comes to find out, we were lied to about that TOTALLY. Our warranty will expire at the normal 50,000 time. The EXTENDED warranty was for IF we went over the 50,000. THERE IS NO WAY WE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT THAT WARRANTY IF THAT WERE THE CASE. I DRIVE LESS THAN 8K MILES A YEAR and have for the past 12 years!!!! My driving habits were not going to change! We were LIED TO BY PENSACOLA MERCEDES BENZ SALES REP for the car. Period... We found out just before a cruise and we've just returned. :mad:
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I looked up trade in value ($18,500), private sale($21,400) and retail values ($23,600) and realize those don't really take into account the value of the extended warranty for a car of this vintage (in fact I cannot find a 2006 R350 under warranty within a 500 mile range of me). The difference between retail and certified for the car is about $1500 and since the warranty cost me $3,200 a year ago, I figure it has to increase the value of the car by at least that much over the trade or private sale value that various tools list. Does that sound about right?
I'd like to try to work a trade with my local dealer (who sold me the car and the extended warranty), so I am trying to get a sense of exactly what the numbers are so he doesnt make too much from me on the combination of the trade in and the new sale. I know how to figure out how to drive a good deal on the new sale, it's the trade that has me puzzled. I'm guessing he'll list the car for $25k, so getting $18.5k trade value seems like leaving too much on the table. He's serviced the car and has always done everything that needs to get done, so he wont have any real inspection/service costs before he puts it on the lot. But obviously, he has some costs in selling it and needs to make a bit of profit. What is a good place to start with a proposed trade, $21,500, higher/lower?
Personally I wouldn't dream of owning a 2006 R outside of warranty, so I am surprised people would pay in the range of $20k for one!
There is lots of talk on a Mercedes owners forum and the general consensus is that whatever reliability problems that existed for the R Class were definitely solved on the 2009 and newer models. Possibly also true for 2008 models.
1) How reliable are the cars? What kind of annual maintenance am I looking at?
2) What would be fair price - has nav and ent system.
Service bulletin is here - link title
From another forum:
M272 (350) engine up to Serial #468993 or M273 (550) to 088611. The material for the balance shaft sprocket and the timing chain guide wheel (idler) was modified on engines past the serial numbers listed above.
If engine #is within range, reference DTB S-B-03.30/08j JUN09 for repair under factory warranty or extended warranty. Out of warranty have SM involve MB rep covering dealership to consider/approve goodwill repair given defective part was installed @ production
Not all engines in the range will have problems. This affects all MB cars with the 350 M272 engine, not just R Class. MB is now helping owners with the problem, but the help varies according to your relationship with the dealer.
Any help is appreciated.
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private party sale (I am the buyer in this transaction)