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I will never buy HONDA again and will jump ship to Toyota. The Toyota Sienna is beginning to look quite attractive. :mad:
To all Odyssey owners with transmission problems, is there a lawsuit out there that covers 2002-2004? I am aware of one for 1999-2001 odysseys. Also, what are other Odyssey owners doing about this problem? The thought of having only 41200 miles and having the transmission fixed out of pocket just infuriates me!! Hope to hear back from you all. Thanks...
The cause is Honda prematured tranny failure made you $2,100 pocket lighter and Honda does not take full responsibility only reimbursed you $1,000. Think also the inconvenience, the other protential problems that the failed tranny leads to.
I got a lemon from Chrysler's Turismo in 1986 and I swore Chrysler won't get my business any more. The only way Chrysler will get my business is there's no other brand except Chrysler in this world.
Also check out this link and provide your vin# to see if your vehicle was part of the lawsuit settlement against Honda for the faulty transmissions on the 1999-2001 Odyssey models.
http://www.hondatransmissionsettlement.com/php/login.php
Hope this helps you.
I have a eary similar transmission problem with my 2002 odyssey. Dealer tells me the computer is not registering a code. I have take 2 technicians out for ride with me to experience the shudder at 35 to 40 mph. You can also feel it around 20 and 60 but it is very short and mild. I would like to know what test your technician ran and how he recorded the problem. Although I have told Honda dealer and Honda Care what I thought it was they tell me without a code, there is nothing wrong.
Thanks for your help
I am once again in need of a mini van and I have some very good friends who are offering to sell me their 1999 Odyssey. BUT it is in need of a new transmission (no surprise). My friends got a quote of $1800-2200 from a local shop (not dealer) to rebuild the transmission that's in there now. The van has about 135,000 miles on it and is in otherwise excellent shape. These friends are the original owners and have taken excellent care of the van. I have no doubt about that. If they get it fixed they'll sell it to us for about $3900 (and they're willing to take payments!). I want to know if it would be wise for us to buy this van? What are the chances that the rebuilt tranny will go out again in another 10K miles? Does it make a difference if the old one is rebuilt as opposed to a new one being put in? And when "new" ones are put in aren't they also remanufactured? If we could get a 100K out of it that would be OK, but not 10K. What do you all think?
I am a 2nd owner of a 2002 Honda Odyssey and had to replace the tranny at about 105,000, around March of 2008.
I did not realize that Honda America was helping with the reimbursement at the time I replaced the tranny (my bad, I know I should have consulted this group).
Is there any chance I can get some of the monies for my past expenses? If so, what is the best way to go about requesting the reimbursement?
Thx,
Dukeshah
TG
Although with today's high prices for vehicles I will try to keep forever. I am retired on a fixed income.
I also life the design!
Most replacements are the transmissions.
Since your van has 103k miles, your best bet is to repair it at AAMCO and purchase the additional 3 yr/36000 miles warranty or even a lifetime warranty, if you plan to keep the van for awhile.
It is just unfortunate that us Honda Odyssey owners of 1999-2004 have to deal with this transmission problem.
I am thinking of contacting a lawyer or going to a small business court for past reimbursement. Any thoughts?
Similar to you, problem is exacerbated when going over a slight incline that puts slightly more pressure on the engine/transmission. The shakes would not happen for the dealer service, just the rough vibration. I'm trying to find criteria to reproduce the events for them. I had the transmission oil changed which appeared to solve the problem for a few days. They want to change the fluid again to rule that out. Next, they say I should replace the torque converter. I am the original owner with about 75k miles. It's been happening for 4-6 months now.
I was also researching problems with the EGR (exhaust gas recirculator), but this is supposed to show a engine service code, and is supposed to be shutters while cruising. I think I feel those, but it's hard to rule that apart from bumps in the road. If you get the engine service code, Honda has supposedly extended the warranty to 80k miles.
I am considering a Honda for my wife, but am holding off until my problems are solved. We're also considering Toyota.
Have you had any progress with your problem? Are other people having this problem? Hope this helps you.
MAIN QUESTION: Is it crazy for me to take this car on this trip? When these transmissions go while driving, what actually happens? Thanks.
Honda does not recommend tranny flush, it should be drain n fill x 3 instead of flush.
2002 Honda Odyssey Recalls
2002 HONDA ODYSSEY Recall ID from NHTSA: 04V176000
Auto Recall Date: APR 15, 2004
Vehicle Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Model Affected ODYSSEY
Estimated Vehicles Affected: 1099796 Recall Details
Auto Recall Date:
APR 15, 2004
Vehicle Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
...ON SOME MINI VANS, SPORT UTILITY AND PASSENGER VEHICLES, CERTAIN OPERATING CONDITIONS CAN RESULT IN HEAT BUILD-UP BETWEEN THE COUNTERSHAFT AND SECONDARY SHAFT SECOND GEARS IN THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO GEAR TOOTH CHIPPING OR GEAR BREAKAGE.
...ON VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 15,000 MILES, THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION TO IDENTIFY GEARS THAT HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED DISCOLORATION DUE TO OVERHEATING. IF DISCOLORATION EXISTS, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE REPLACED IF DISCOLORATION IS NOT PRESENT, THE DEALER WILL PERFORM THE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE.
My 2002 Odyssey has 102,000 miles. This language seems to clearly say I get a new transmission if those gears have problems. Does it really mean "if discoloration exists, dealer will replace transmission for $4000?"
Had the recall done as soon as we were notified (31k), had the blinking D problem just after our extended warranty expired at 107k (replaced 4th gear switch - $300) and now at 121k the transmission must be replaced (estimated $4850).
I opened a case but Honda has denied me any participation in a good-will effort to help repair this.
The car's tradein is about 4500, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to do this repair... still thinking about it, but may go to a private shop for a rebuilt one.
It seems to me that the recall and the other tranny repair were just delays to get a flawed design over the warranty expiration so that they do not need to cover the cost of repairing their mistake.
I will not be buying a Honda again unless I know that the current model I am buying has a track record of no flawed design.
Me too...I just purchased a 2007 Honda Odyssey with 30k miles on it. At 31k miles and three weeks later (haven't made the first payment yet) I take it in for a "thumping" that happens as you keep a consistent speed (like a tranny searching for a gear constantly). We also have a shutter/vibration that occurs at 40mph when you let off the gas and give it gas (usually on an incline). I was told about the service bulletin to update the specs in the computer, they did it, and it does it worse. I currently have a torque converter and transmission on order. Waiting for my repair to occur. This is sickening, given that I did my research and there were NO prior warranty claims on this vehicle per Honda and carfax checked out clean. Thankfully, it is still under factory warranty and with the Honda Certified warranty, the transmission is covered until 100k miles. If I continue to have the tranny problem after this install, I will be revisiting the dealer that sold me this vehicle to work out some kind of trade. The service bulletin (which is a borderline recall) states that all cars in used inventory is to be updated prior to selling. Mine was not and if they would have done that and driven it, they would have known it still had an issue. So I take the depreciation hit for having a transmission problem in its past (it will have it in its past) and I am not happy . However, I am thankful for warranty
Anywho mine, i started hearing this " Crank" noise when we drove in the morning as the tranny shifted and every so often vibrated upon shiftage. Other day i saw this big puddle Oil and took it straight to dealersip. ( Ourisman honda laurel Md )
Initially they said there was nothing wrong with car which I wouldnt buy and asked to speak to manager. He stated the same thing but said hed drive it and low and behold i get a call back and he said theres deffinately something wrong. Short story Tranny has to be replaced ( car at 6r k miles) I had purchased extended warranty ( thnk god) and i just picked car up.
This has me really worried and was wondering if i should sell the car ( We love it) or just hope nothing else major happens?
What bothers me is our 1994 Accord is still rolling strong at 395,000 miles and we will run it till it craps the bed and dies. We maintain our vehicles with a passion and drive them with care.
Our immediate family has owned over 135 Honda vehicles as a whole over the last 25 years. Collectively the J (Japan) built Honda's have been the most reliable with no issues. Unfortunately The North American built Honda's do not share the same reliability and characteristics.
We are a family that buys "new" and drives them till they die.
We have three vehicles we have to replace in the next few months and they will not be Honda's.
The Honda transmission issues have "profoundly" affected our decision to not even entertain purchasing Honda products in the near and far future.
Honda, If you are listening. We have been faithful customers that have swore to friends, family and acquaintances that your automobiles have been the best made on earth for over the last 25 years. Because of Honda's rather blatantly flagrent disregard to these "transmission" issues.
Honda, in the borrowed word's of Mr. Trump
"YOU'RE FIRED"
We will not repair the 2001 Odyssey when the transmission finally fails. It is a tragedy that a vehicle that is so well built and looks cosmetically and functionally fantastic will have to be sent to the junk yard because of a "poorly designed" Honda transmission that Honda will not stand behind with integrity. I guess the JUNK YARD IS WHERE IT BELONGS.
Ford has a much better idea.
They are building them like Honda did many years ago. They smartly took a page out of Honda's quality in manufacturing book.
I thought Honda is a very good and reliable car so I bought a new '07 Odyssey without any research or hesitation. I traded-in the Ody w/7K miles in 7 months due to miscl things I don't like, potential pre-matured tranny failure, humming noise, soft brake, wind noise ...
I want to know if any one here is on the same issue but resolved it with Honda Motors America or with a dealer? My service manager is telling me his hands are tied.... :sick:
My 99 had a trans replaced ( free from Honda) at 185,000. Unfortunately, my son wrecked the car at 210,000.
I assumed the replacement trans was also an improved/ redesigned trans and would not have the same problems.
Based on that assumption, I was looking at buying a used 2001 Odyssey.
It has had the trans replaced already.
Is it fixed or just in between breakdowns ? Does anyone have knowledge or data on this ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
It took some persistance but paid off.
Again, is new trans a true "fix" or just another trans waiting to go bad- anyone know ?
Original was replaced at 20k miles.
Does Honda really know the root cause for the failures?
NO.
Does Honda have a fix?
NO.
Are we customers happy?
NO.
Honda ruins its reputation with this kind of transmission and the service.
how did you end up wit your trnsmission problem,
I have exactly the same issue,and i feel helpless with my meccanic. :confuse: :
any feed back is helpfull.
THANKS
J