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Does anyone have a long enough history with the Jasper to say it really is a better unit?
Has anyone else had this problem? I had the transmission flushed about a year and a half ago. I just had the trans fluid checked and it was fine.
Thanks for any input...it sounds like Odyssey's are an issue, but I am wondering if it is van's in general. I have had friend's who have had American made van's and they have gone out. We use Ford van's at the Transit Company where I work...3 went out this year. They sure are cheaper than the Honda replacement trans.
and a new trans is quite possibly going to cost more than you would get for the van after that.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
So...You don't think that it is worth putting a new transmission in? We decided that we will keep the van longer if we put the new trans. in.
Thanks for your feedback...
If you decide on replacing the transmission don't go back to Honda for the work. They will replace the transmission with the original defective design.
Look for a transmission shop that offers a good warranty. Jasper transmissions have a 3 year 100,000 mile warranty! I think Honda will give you 6 months maybe 1 year?
Also, look at the Odyssey vibration forum there's some links discussing why Honda transmissions fail.
At minimum, before I decided, I would fine a good indy mechanic (preferably one that really knows Hondas and has experience with the Odyssey) and have it gone over with a fine tooth comb. Engine compression, suspension, motor mounts, everything. Get a quote for bringing it fully "up to snuff".
then, add that to the cost of the trans and decide if you want to invest that much with the intent of keeping it a couple more years.
If it really needs a couple K more in repairs beyond the trans, might be better off dumping it as is.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Is there repercussions for not getting it fixed? What does it control in the transmission?
Thanks!
He said the trans that he puts in will have a 2 yr 100,000 warranty, and the defect in the trans will be repaired unlike what they would do at a Honda dealer. He said his customers haven't had problems with their trans after they install it...It is 2,800.00, and they do 200 a year...more than the Honda dealer close to them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEdqRkq1p1o
See also-
http://www.odyclub.com/forums/52-2005-2010-odyssey/137895-easy-transmission-fix-- pressure-switches.html
Someone wrote about the D flashing, and that if I replace that sensor it will help with the 3rd gear problem??? It has been flashing for awhile...I will try and address that next week.
Thanks for your insight!
HI Larry
Loved this article on the Honda TCC....
http://www.sonnax.com/titles/overheated-honda-converters740-codes.print
Sure has been a lot of head scratching and back engineering on these Honda a/t's..wish it was Honda doing it..I see they are now facing another Class Action lawsuit on the newer Odysseys a/t's...
Just when they finally get it figured out they will probably change the whole a/t design again and once more use us Van Owners as R&D guinea pigs.
Eric
On 11/6/2011 9:29 PM, LARRY BLOODWORTH wrote:
> Eric,
>
> While we've finally figured out the converter problem, among others, we are still debating the 3rd clutch issue. The sum of everything our industry knows about Honda/Acura problems can be found HERE.
>
> I believe the 3rd clutch problem is a software issue causing an overlap of 2nd clutch release and 3rd clutch apply; also the 4-3 downshift. This overlap condition is exacerbated by a lot of in-town driving where upshifts and downshifts into 3rd gear happen a lot. Most notably in the stereotypical Soccer Mom's kid bus. We rarely see 3rd gear clutch failure in Hondas that are primarily freeway driven; because they don't do a lot of shifing in and out of 3rd gear.
>
> The patented pressure regulator valve mentioned in the report retails for only $210 bucks. A cheaper, but more difficult to install, product that addresses the same issues is made by TransGo that I E-mailed you a while back.
>
> Let the Honda buffs and DIY'ers know what's up.
>
> I'll Keep You Posted,
> J. Larry Bloodworth
>
file a complaint with the NHTSA here:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
There have been 224 complaints filed under 6 powertrain categories. Honda will only be held accountable when the NHTSA forces a mandatory recall.
Also of interest:
http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-complaints/honda-od- - yssey-torque-converter-class-action-lawsuit-complaint/
There was someone (here I think, or on another forum) that decided to DIY it, and managed to do it successfully. So no reason a pro can't do it (since they just do it in a factory setting anyway for the remans).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
It's my wife's car, and she has no tollerance for being stranded!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
You night want to try the shifter lock. That seems to be the problem with a lot of 03's. Are you having trouble getting the key out? Hope you can figure out the problem.
Of course, it would have been simpler if honda simply fixed the design instead of coming up with this bandaid,..it's not nifty or cool, it's simply a design issue that was cheaper to bandaid then fix.
I wish there was a way to stick a spare key in to fix the transmission, motor mount, etc,...etc,...etc,... design problems.
yes, probably going back to a toyota next time.
You shouldn't go to the dealer...that sounds pretty pricey!
The last Consumer Reports I looked at showed the 2007 as having tranny problems, but not the 99's up to 2004, the worst years! Strange indeed, but Honda always did seem to get a pass from CR for some reason.
I think hundreds of thousands of hyped Honda Odyssey Vans were sold to people who believed the CR Bull about Honda "reliability" (myself included)
I went to a local transmission shop which was highly recommended. He rebuilt the trans and replaced the cracked motor mounts (broken probably as a result of all the lurching, etc). Cost me $1650. Sold the van as I didn't want to endure another repeat and be out another $1650 or $5000 as some folks have reported here.
Have owned two brand-new Honda Accords (1992 and 1995), and they served me well. This Odyssey van and the stories told here in addition to the pitifully poor gas mileage these things get, are enough to make me stay away from Hondas permanently.
Best choice would likely be to make Honda repair it and then sell it outright. Why give a dealer that extra profit? LOTS of people are STILL insistent that they MUST have a Honda Odyssey. I was completely upfront with the guy who bought mine and even shared this forum site w/ him. Fully-informed, he believed buying one which had been rebuilt was safer than buying one which had not YET experienced any problems. I agree w/ that thinking, but I still wanted to be as far away from a Honda Odyssey as I could be. I feel rather fortunate to have gotten away spending only $1650. And, that's sad if you think about it.
Good luck to yet another disappointed Honda admirer.
According to my mechanic, who does not service transmissions, the code is 730. He contacted a transmission repair shop in Portland, OR for me and I took the car in last week. It supposedly was fixed and ready to go on Friday afternoon. I picked it up just before closing. According to the shop, they replaced all the solenoids (which is what the Honda Service Bulletin told them to do). They had road tested the vehicle and all was fine.
After picking up the car, I had not driven more than a few miles and the transmission problem occurred again. The car does not shift as it should from second to third gear. The car revs up high and is having trouble making the 'shift'. The malfunction (yellow light) indicator came on and has stayed on. Also, the Traction Control System light came on but when I restarted the car, it was off. However, the malfunction indicator does NOT go off when the car is restarted. This mimics what happened before I took the car into the transmission shop last Tuesday.
The problem with the transmission began some months ago when I noticed a slight 'chug' when the car shifted from second to third gear. In October, I took the car into my mechanic because the malfunction indicator light had come on and stayed on. The code was 730. The mechanic shop changed the transmission oil and road tested the car but they did not feel the 'chug' that I did . . . so they turned off the light for me and I continued to drive the car. The malfunction light stayed off until about a week ago.
In the intervening months, the shifting problem, however, got worse . . . although it did (and does) not happen all the time. For example, I just drove the car back to the transmission shop so that it would be there at 8 am when they open tomorrow and there was no problem with the shifting from second to third gear -- although the malfunction indicator light is still on.
Since replacing the solenoids clearly did not solve the problem, I wondered if anyone on this blog has had a similar experience or knows what the problem might be. According to the transmission shop, the Honda Service Bulletin for the 730 code says to replace the solenoids, but if that doesn't work, the transmission should be rebuilt.
I am the original owner of this car and I did take it in when the Honda Transmission Recall took place in 2004. The car has 95,000 miles on it. It would appear that I am looking at having to have the transmission rebuilt.
I plan to call Honda tomorrow but am not certain what is the best way to approach them. Any advice in this regard would be appreciated as well as any insights as to the problem with the transmission.http://static.ed.edmunds-media.com/edmunds-webassets/1.20.66/img/fo- rums/webxicons/emotorcons/emo_bawling.gif