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I have a 2002 Odyssey, 7 year warranty, 130,000 kms
the warranty was up sept 17 2008, and on the suddenly convenient date of sept 27, the engine light came on.
it was just a day after I had the oil changed so i thought it was a sensor reset issue or maybe a tech didnt screw something back on properly.
I was wrong.
they told me it would cost $3915 to replace the transmission because the code read "clutch failure" and shifting malfunction, which would call for replacement of the transmission.
I was mortified.
I seemed to recall having the vehicle in the shop back in '06, telling the guys at the Honda service center that the tranny seemed to "shift very hard" into 2nd gear. their answer to the prob was flushing the tranny twice, after which the van drove exactly the same, but the techs assured me that the shifting was "the nature of the beast". funny how 12 days after the warranty goes up, I seemed to be in need of e new $3915 part, rather than a double flush and a pat on the back.
I called Honda Canada immediately after I git this news, explainng my situation, they said they would review my service history and get back to me as soon as possible.
It's been a week.
Nature of the beast.
I sent a letter to Honda America corporate and Japan. I just got a letter from Honda Japan, they said they would contact Honda America for me, but the final decision would be from Honda America.
I just brought it to the dealer. I have to pay for labor ($1200) Honda is paying for parts ($3800).
How unbelievable is this?!!!!
I hate to sound like a broken record, but contact the attorneys. The secretary that I talked to said she gets calls every day. Hopefully the more they get, the quicker the lawsuit will take place and we can all get our money back.
I know a lot of people on this board have had a lot problems with their Odysseys, but mine was perfect for 7 years and 87,000 miles.
Here's what I would suggest, open a case with BBB. You can do this online. Once they accept the case they will send you documenation that needs to be filled out. After you send it back to them it takes approximately 20 days for them to contact Honda and get back to you with the next steps.
Good luck.
Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
decision, before starting work.
Could you tell what exactly what you said to the Honda customer service hotline so that I can tell them the same thing. Please. My trans is also not working. It stopped working at about 104000 miles. Well it will still catch gear when its cold but once it warms up it loses its gears. So, will you please help me out?
Enrique
Rick
1. Shut down the engine.
2. Take the ignition key out for a few seconds (I did like 20 seconds).
3. Start the engine.
4. and it worked ... the transmission was working.
I placed the transmission on 1st gear and it worked to at least move it home and later to the shop, hopefully, tomorrow.
I`ll keep you posted.
Now a week ago, under hard acceleration when going into second gear rpm goes from 3500 to 4500. Slow acceleration driving is fine.
What should I do? Take it to Honda dealer and see if they will share the cost if transmission is failing?
Or take to the private shop that I trust. Jasper Engines lists one for $2,711.00 http://webapp.jasperengines.com/webcat/catalog.asp.
I had a good relationship with dealer and Honda, They had replaced EGR and Catalytic Convertor with paying for material and dealer gave a goodwill on labor. I was 7,000 miles over warranty.
Recently lost my job would like to avoid a nightmare of expenses.
Thanks!
I think that the problem comes in the morning when transmission oil is cold.That's what they told me that the problem could be occurring at cold starts. The transmission oil was changed by Honda @ 13,000 miles ago. Jasper shop told me that the oil level is little high and color is darker than what is should be for a 13K mile change. He told me not the change the oil as it may accelerate the problem and the Honda oil contains a "detergent".
I do not have any malfunctioning "Check Engine or flashing D light". Jasper Transmission is $4,200.00 installed with 3 year or 100K warranty. The shop can rebuilt locally for $2,700K with 3 year or 50K warranty with labor covered if rebuilt fails. Jasper has a labor coverage plan for $150 in case of a failure. The shop owner who has been in business for 20 years told me to go with Jasper if I want to keep the van for many years (which I really want since it is extremely clean inside and outside).
Next week I have an appointment with Honda Dealer to pay him $96 for testing transmission. However I doubt if they can found any code also if nothing is flashing? I don't know if I should pay them 100 dollars for finding nothing.
There is no downshifting problem, only on occasion it takes a second to engage to get into 2nd gear with RPM jumping approx 1000 under pedal to the metal.
Last time American Honda covered me after warranty for (EGR & Catalytic convertor) when I told them in my immediate family there are 4 Odysseys and 2 Acuras. One Acura had a transmission failure under 36K miles.
It shows absolutely no codes and doesn't even light the trouble light, but the lockup function isn't working at 45mph when trying to maintain speed on level pavement. Honda did a data scan and it shows that it is alternating between 90% and 100% lockup. It does this about as fast as a heartbeat so the RPMs on the tach jump about a 100rpm every second.
The tech says its not the PCM or the lockup solenoid or a pressure issue or anything else. They are basically saying it needs a new transmission I think because they don't field-replace torque converters. And the kicker is that the replacement would be a remanufactured transmission!!! That makes me nervous of a repeat, especially given that I probably have fewer miles than the vast majority of trannys that are remanufactured.
I've tried to scan and search these threads for a couple days but there's not so much info on the latest generation vans.
Any second opinions or insight how to get the best deal or alternatives to the dealer? I've thought about trying to replace the torque converter which I can get online for low $400s but I really don't have solid confidence just what the issue really is.
As far as I can tell, this transmission has been discontinued after 2006 (only a two-year part) and now the Odyssey uses the same transmission as the Pilot, but I don't know if I can swap in a Pilot transmission without a new PCM and they may have even changed other components to accomodate the change?
See my post #858 at
link title
If this means that Honda intends to extend the mileage coverage, my transmission may be eligible for full replacement.
It doesn't say what part if getting extended or to what mileage. Is there not a detailed description some where? I wonder if a dealership would know.
Please, if you are in the same sit., send your vehicle info to the NHTSA as well as any lawyers covering past or present lawsuits.
Thanks to all who have posted...we will report back Honda's reposnse.
Not sure if we would ever buy a Honda again unless Honda decides to have a 10yr/100k powertrain warranty. Honda needs to decide if they are going to stand behind their products or not.
I own an 2001 Odyssey and sometimes I notice when I start the engine the tcs,abs and parking brake light stays on, I usually turns of the engine for a few seconds then restart and it usually comes off, has anyone here has any idea or experienced this problem before?.
Thanks so much.
I'm just curious if anyone here ever replaces their transmission fluid filter when changing the fluid? The Honda dealership says they doesn't change the filter but with so much transmission failures I'm just wondering if it might be a good idea to request the filter to be change during my next service.
Thank you.
We just bought an August-built 2008 EX-L and am wondering if we're looking at a possible failure in the future.
FWIW, today I talked to a very good friend who works only on Japanese-based cars (and has for 30 years now) and told me he has yet to work on or investigate a failure-bound odyssey transmission. However, he mentioned other Honda models with a record of tranny failures, and also that it's his policy to change transmission oil and filter earlier than factory recommendations. (I'm the same way with all my vehicles too and have for years - imo cheap insurance).
If someone could enlighten me on this it would be appreciated.
yak33
There's nothing wrong with changing fluids more often in my book, but I don't think you have much to worry about with your 08.
By the way, wise choice letting your wife make the call on van choices.
This is just FYI to folks reading this forum. Warranty replacement of the entire transmission after one year for a 2007 Honda Odyssey.
:sick:
Does anybody know if this is possible?
'07 transmission is part number 20021-R36-000
'05 transmission is part number 20021-RGR-A01 (which is itself a replacement for the original 20021-RGR-A00)
'07 Ridgeline trans is 20021-RJF-T10
'07 Pilot trans is a 20021-PVL-050
None are available in the US except as remanufactured parts by the way.
81000 mileage
how would i know if the transmission having problem or doesn't shift in the right gear?
would i feel it, while driving the car?
oh, have another question.
my steering wheel shake when i'm steping on my brake to stop. it doesn't matter if in the highway or street. when i brake, it shake.
can anyone help out...
Your rotors are warped. They need to be turned or replaced. Shouldn't be that expensive.
If there was a problem with your transmission shifting you likely would feel it. i.e slipping...slamming... engine racing.. hesitation
Both times the tranny went bad in my wife's '00 Ody, all the above symptoms were preceded by a "check engine" light.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
As usual, first we had missed shifts and engine revving, then TCS light and finally check-engine light. Dealer foolishly replaced a pressure sensor switch and charged me $250 before concluding it was time for a new tranny. We took it in before total failure, to try to avoid the stops-in-middle-of-road syndrome. Honda offered to cover 25% but no more, so I'm out $3K and get the 3/36 warranty. I tried all the "magic words" about how everyone was having this problem etc, but got no farther. I do have service records, but only some are dealer, some local shop.
The van is "fixed" now, but I'll keep bugging Honda to see if they'll pay more.
I've given my info to the class action lawyer in NYC; they're very interested, I guess mine is one of the lower-mileage examples.
If you've had an 02-05 transmission failure, please call the lawyers (212-566-4047) to get on their list...painless, takes 5 minutes, nothing to lose. They have about 120 people so far, and that doesn't seem to be quite enough to make them file.
Also, report it to NHTSA at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
No more Hondas for me...
i changed my oil at 30k and so far haven't noticed any sound. i did what my mechanic (NOT THE HONDA DEALER) calls a flush. drain, refill with 3.1 qts .drive it around. drain, refill. I know its expensive this way, but still less than someone else doing a mere drain, refill. apparently, 3.1 qts is only half or a third of all the oil in the transmission and technically, even the flush might still not get all of it.
my dealer told me 60,000 for trans oil change. i can't believe it. the old (i used to have a 99 lx) tranny needed new oil every 15K.
i will say that i love this van. if i was single w/ no kids (i am not and i have 4 - kids, that is), and could drive only one car, it would be this one. fine, call me a geek - i don't care.
p.s. - all this transmission crap could be avoided if they just made it with a manual.
they offer me 50:50 from honda corp. i didn't take it because still 2000.00 out of
my pocket. i will offer just for labor which is 1000.00.. bad choice for $38,000.