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I recall that ConsumersReport tested CX9 at 159ft and proclaimed that CX9 under performed in stopping compared with others they tested. Magazine does screw up sometimes. Maybe they meant 139ft.
Dry pavement 131'
Wet pavement 157'
Heh. I'll admit. I don't always go all out, but I always put my foot to the floor to test pick-up. And I always do quick lane changes. My worst was probably the 5 series I drove before I bought mine. But seeing that these cars would serve two differnet purposes, I could see leisurely driving a Pilot. It's a family chauler, not a car you take out for fun.
You know..i do prefer the i wouldn't buy a first year model to the must be crazy to buy the 2009. One imply you have a different opinion and the other that you are god and therefore know the truth and can judge other action..... :mad: oh and about the 8 seated passenger on the acadia it's my fault i was referring to the top model...as long as you stay on the basin model you'll find plenty 8 passenger option but none when you choose a higher model...i know this for a fact
I always buy first year model..did it with the odyssey,the sienna awd (first year ever toyota awd), the suburban 2007 and oh the vw passat.....and none..none and any problem...none. period. So before making comment on my mental stability maybe you should be happy some of us buy the first year model so chicken people can safely wait 1 or 2 year....
Back on the topic (sorry but i had to get it out)....after being gone for a week i fully test it yesterday doing a 5 hour trip...and i was simply amazed.....now it's purely personal...but for me the acceleration and braking was very good...in fact as good as i would expect. The hand free bluetooth system is out of this world....it.s a matter of pressing a button then telling the number and voila...done deal and the communicatio is clear from both side....amazing....gps is good...ok i didn't say super because i come from a garmin nuivi and to me it's the reference...right now the honda gps doesn,t have all the street the garmin has. I had to get use to the bird eye view but i like the fact that you can split the screen in 2 with all the turn on the right side so you can keep track in advance of what is coming....
The stereo system and quite frankly the best i had so far.....sound is crisp the subwoofer add a bang to the sound......the dvd player was a first ( i resist until now even if i have 4 kids...go figure i must be crazy) and so far it work pretty good...
Xm radio is standard altough it's very nice to be able to see everything on the navigation screen....talking about the nav screen i forgot earlier....the acadian had a touch screen but this one has a big dial button. Having tried both the dial is god given. In theory a touchscreen is faster and easier but in practice give me a big button anything....more so while driving...
hmmm..let see...oh yes the ipod connection is another very nice option....no more fiddling the ipod while driving...you can acces everything from the navigationnal screen..amazing...
So far i love the seat...very confortable yet they have a good firm support...handling is very good also..well to my taste.....the wheel feel stiff and the direction is crisp...coming from a van and a suburan let me tell it turn on a dime... :P
Lots of space..lots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It's easy to seat the kids on the third row seat and when you do the 3 2nd row and 4th third row with the 60/split you have more then enough space to go shopping.
Anyway so far so good....during the trip i was at 10.7l/100km so for me it's better then the van (12.2) or the burb (16.6 ouch!!). Unlike the suburban this honda motor use the economical mode as soon as he can and you don'T even notice it...
Can't wait to try it on snow!!!!!!Love it so far!!!
Another issue, is that the Pilot looks more like a Ford Escape now, and less upscale on the exterior than the previous model.Than you have a really nice interior, that does not match, the nice, but yet casual exterior. It seems as though Honda is really taking a lot of help from Acura, its co-company, especially when it comes to the interior.
Now, they need to offer hybrid technology for this car, it would work great, and people that need more than just a car, could use this, and get a world of difference in mileage. Now, only offer the option if it is not insanely high in price, otherwise financially it would not make sense. I am hoping the will offer the option on the Accord, which at some point, I feel they will, but they have to consider Toyota's decent pricing in the camry hybrid.
Now, you have to ask yourself, what can this car do, that the CR-V, which is much cheaper, cannot do.
Seat eight!
Remote Trunk/Tailgate Release
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3.5L V6
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Homelink Remote System
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Tow Capacity: 4500-lb
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roominess
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Anyone can buy a Gentex mirror and install Homelink remote on their vehicle.
It is as good as OE mirror.
"Consumers often delay purchasing a model in its first year, waiting for the manufacturer to get the so-called bugs out," said Joe Ivers, partner and executive director of quality/customer satisfaction at J.D. Power and Associates. "Yet, the quality of most new-model launches is actually very good. Some manufacturers have virtually eliminated the launch-year quality drop-off. A few have even demonstrated a pattern of launching models with better initial quality than the models they replaced."
New/Redesigned Models Often Record Better Initial Quality Than The Vehicles They Replace, But Not in Every Case
I think the "Not in Every Case" refers to the rollouts at the Nissan Canton plant when it was new or maybe the supplier issues in Alabama at the Mercedes plant when it first opened.
oh and i know you'll call me crazy (someone already did :P )but i actually like the look of the pilot....maybe it's because i love truck in general but for me it's a beautiful car...inside and outside....but reading all the my-god-the-09 pilot-is -ugly i wonder if my eyes are ok..lol
And it seems Honda (Acura's PARENT company) is starting to be pulled down by Acura's ugly-wierdness. All of thier cars look goofy now (well, I actually like the new MDX). I do know one thing: If Honda ever, EVER tries some goofy styling on the Accord, the brand will TANK.
How is the ride quality on the 09 pilot vs. your sienna awd? We have a 06 honda Odyessy, and I just test drove the 09 Pilot. It seems the Pilot is not "stuck" on the ground as the minivan. I am looking for a suv that is comfortable on the highway as we take a lot of trips with the kids.
Are you set on a Honda or would you be willing to look at competition like the CX-9 or Acadia?
I didn't like the acadia after comparing the pilot. It's the same as with the suburban. I like a stiff wheel with good response and didn't found that on the acadia...but to each is own....i recommend you go test it and see for yourself....go luck with your next car!!!
p.s: How many kids do you have.,...i have 4 so the pilot was the best option for me ..
I tested drove the Pilot this past weekend. It is not as quite as I was hoping for. My biggest complaint (maybe only complaint agaist the Odyessy) is the road / wind / driving noise. It is loud. I don't know it is because of the design or the stupid run flat tires I have.
This is a problem to most vehicles with cross-bars.
I know Odyssey did not come with them
unless you bought it yourself. It seems to be standard on new Pilot.
Tires could also be a factor if the noises come through the floorpan or window.
However, I am not gonna defend for Honda. All the Hondas I have owned were
sort of noisy. 1999-2001 Odyssey was among the worst.
Thanks-
R
you know i was remembering your comment today while driving it and it's true there is road noise when driving in old pavement (we have plenty of that in quebec :P ). As soon as you hit newly made pavement it stop. I guess with the music/kids i didn't pay attention....but you are right...of course after 15 min i already forgot about it....i guess my brain is good for something...LMAO
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/honda_pilot_accessories/2009_honda_pilot_access- ories.htm
The dealership offered a less expensive aftermarket starter, but I liked the idea of a Honda-made starter that's integrated with the vehicle's climate controls. Hot outside? The starter automatically turns on the A/C and cools it to 72. Freezing outside? The starter automatically turns on the heat and the defroster. Downsides: For one, it's very expensive. It only comes with one remote fob, which is annoyingly huge. It also has a much shorter range than many aftermarket starters. My dealership had never even installed one before. It only came out this year, and is only available with certain vehicles. In short, no one knew to talk me out of it.
If you have experience with aftermarket starters, it usually works like this; once you use the starter remote to start the car, you must use the same remote to unlock the doors and get in (i.e. your factory remote is temporarily disabled). You put in the key, turn it to the on position, and go. If you tap the break, the car shuts off. I assumed a Honda Remote Start system would at LEAST work this way, if not better (e.g. the starter does not disable the factory remote).
I'm dumbfounded by what actually happens. You use the starter remote to start the car, and it does disable the factory remote. However, the starter remote does NOT have lock/unlock buttons for the door. So when you get to the car, you actually have to TURN OFF the engine with the remote in order to unlock the vehicle, get in, and RE-start the car. If you attempt to even use the key to unlock the door, it shuts off the engine.
Does anyone agree that this is unacceptable? Not only is it unnecessary wear & tear on the car's starter because you have to start the car TWICE every time you use it, but more importantly it almost defeats the purpose of having one. I'm dumbfounded that Honda would go to market with a product that has LESS integrated functionality than the 3rd-party starters available.
Does ANYONE out there have this product and have a different experience? I'm holding out a little bit of hope that somehow mine was installed or programmed incorrectly.. Feel free to email me at jon @ eltopo.com.
Thanks!
Jon
actualsize, "Run-flat, self-sealing, PAX tires for Minivans" #1291, 25 Jun 2008 9:31 am
It needs special equipment to change tires. That means "say goodbye to your Costco, indie shops for tire changes or balancing".
What if you get a flat, keep going at 50mph, but find a nearby Honda dealer quick!
PAX has an inner supporting rubber ring. No matter what kind of run-flat, they are heavier, more expensive and less energy efficient (due to rotational mass). What you get is peace of mind (retain control of vehicle in a tire blowout) and be able to get away from bad situation pronto (heavy rain, bad neighborhood, etc.)
a. it drives nicely, i love the feeling of the steering wheel
b. i love the nav. and electronics, they are just so much better than the $55000 MB GL450
c the road noise is very obvious. I think the noise is coming from Tires. I had many cars, the noise is still among the loudest...very similar to my odyssey touring pax van.
d. the cheap plastic on the dash board, and around the instrument panels still bugs me.
All in all, I think for the price and utility function, it is probably the best value on the market. It is just not a luxury or entry luxury SUV with polished interior... Kind of expecting that for a $38000 touring...
Also what about the brake controller? Anyone have any experience? I use a Prodigy copntroller and haven't been able to find out if the 2009 Pilot is compatible with the 2008 Pilot harness.
I've been towing my 2500# travel trailer with a 2009 Odyssey and bought the Pilot to take over the chore.
hjharris @ Wichita Falls, TX
2009 Pilot LXI
1999 Odyssey LX
I am in that decision making phase now and I just test drove the Pilot last night. I didn't really like the 09 Pilot when it first came out, but after looking at and getting prices for the Highlander, Acadia, Saturn Outlook, etc., I have to admit that the Pilot is looking better to me.
Thanks.
Beside that we love it. the HandsFreeLink wireless telephone interface is simply awesome. The nav is like any other nav system wich is a good thing. Man i can't beleive i didn't had one before....it make life so much easier. The seat are amazing too. Way better then my sub or late sienna. Driving 7 hours without back pain was a new experience for me. :shades:
Anyone else with this problem? Afraid dealer knows so little about the car, they'll try to blame my phone/Verizon.
1. We can't get many of the trip computer functions outlined in the owner's manual to appear. The Trip Computer toggles the bottom info (ODO, outside temp, trip A and
2. I have an iPhone paired and it receives calls fine and makes call fine using the voice commands if the # is manually spoken. However, if we tell it to "Call Home" or "Dial Home" (with the Home # programmed into the nav already) it says it can find no phone to pair with. Very odd. Also, the manual says you can combine voice commands like "Call 555-555-5555" instead of "call" then "555-555-5555" when prompted. But this doesn't seem to really work because if you do it as one command it accepts the number but still comes back and asks if you want to call and you have to say "yes."
3. The manual and Honda website are very vague about the details of pairing multiple phones with the HandsFreeLink system. How many can be paired and how does it handle it? If more than one phone is in the car, how does it prioritize outbound calls? Is this user selectable? How many phones can be paired? Etc.
4. What kind of luck have people had with HomeLink? We have two different garage door openers from different companies. The older is a 7 year old Genie. We've gotten it to work with other homelink devices but the Honda doesn't seem to recognize it. The other opener worked. Any tips? We aren't the first owners so we don't have the manual to look up codes.
5. How do you control the menus of the RES DVD from the front seats? On the Toyota and Mazda, etc., when the car is in park it shows the DVD screen on the front nav system as well. This is useful for initially getting through the menu screens to start the movie, etc. If you can’t see it, it would be virtually impossible. Is there no way to do this, assuming adults in the front and little kids in the back? On a related note, even if you can’t see it, is there a way to control it from the front without pulling down the overhead remote and using it? To start, stop, trac advance, etc. from the front controls?
6. It’s great that the car can actually play different audio sources in the front and rear speakers at the same time and we’ve know how to select the source for each. However, is there a way to select that one or the other be “off” without having the entire audio system off? For example, let’s say you want the rear audio on the DVD but you want nothing in the front audio source? I suppose you can manually go into the audio settings on the nav screen and fade everything away from the front. But it seems so logical that with the ability to hit “front source” that there would be a way to select no source at all.
7. The nav system seems somewhat arbitrary about what locations it has in its directory. For example, we searched today for “Target” and “The Cheesecake Factory.” We knew how to get to each but were testing the system out. In both cases the nearest ones to us have been there for years, so they are not recent. And it did find locations for each, but they were not even in the top three in terms of the closest locations to us in each case. I guess I can see it not having Target at all, but it seems odd that it has some but not others if they have been established for a while. I assume there is nothing to do about this? It’s just disappointing because of the half-a-dozen locations we tested with it only scored about 50% so far in our area. BTW, we love the nav in general. I particularly like the active lane guidance which worked perfectly. I wish it read street names instead of just “turn left,” especially since it clearly has text-to-speech capacity, but otherwise it is pretty sweet.
8. Honda has pictures of the dash display (speedometer, etc.) gluing a cool blue. Does this happen automatically at night? If not, how do you get the blue which I would prefer over the white?
Thanks again.
Thanks.
Cheap on Honda's part, I must say !!
Cheap on Honda's part, I must say !!
Not everybody who gets a hitch tows. Some may want it just for a hitch mounted rack.
BTW.. it's definitely coming from the tires thru the chassis...hers has Bridgestone tires.. have driven another '06 with Goodyears.. same noise... go over old style pavement and the noise is most prevalent.. terrible... drove the Buick Enclave and GMC Arcadia... smooth as silk.. quiet...
I think this is what you meant. Acoustic windshield.
"Pilot EX-L and Touring models have acoustic windshield glass that helps to reduce interior noise levels."
2) Say part of the number - be silent, when they ask to add number, just say more numbers without the yes.
3) I have paired 5. Switch by saying "next phone" and it moves down the list (skipping the unavailable phones. I did have to get new cell phones b/c my 9 month old Chocolate (by LG) would only link well occasionally. I'd encourage people to look at the hands free web site phone listing. Really disappointing.
4) There is a "train" button on the opener machine -probably where the light bulb is. Push is and then train the homelink while light is flashing by the train button. You may have to start by pushing the Homelink button prior to the train button. Can't remember the exact sequence. Did you look online for manuel of your opener?
6) Let the back people watch DVD, put radio on the front and crank your radio volume all the way down.