Mitsubishi Montero

patelvijayc · February 2001

I just bought 2001 Montero xls. Just liked the car. Salesman (Poor knowledge)did not explain difference between the xls and ltd, per him oh some extra gauges, & compass etc.
We falled for it saving couple thousand. We still needed leather interior, so the dealer said they
will convert with additonal cost. The purchase price came out $32,800. After looking the gage now really missing should have bought ltd for 1200 dollar more. It is very upsetting. The dealer charlie thomas gave us bad deal. The interest gave us 5.4% rather than 4.99%.
The finance personnel was extremely rude.
Well I learnt this edmund car info. system after the purchase. If read all info. early would really have helped us buying the car. I tried to purchase the ltd after a week....but too late.

Any comments.

VJ

phonos · February 2001

cct1 · February 2001

I think he sold his Monte and bought a Sequoia (just kidding).

mp19fan · February 2001

Whew, just finished signing the papers and fiddling around with our new Munich Silver Limited! I just first want to say thank you for all the posters who generously gave of their time and effort in helping me with my decision. I got the Montero with rear air and with dealer installed running boards, rear spoiler, and sunroof deflector.

Does anyone else notice that there's a considerable amount of wind noise when the sunroof's open, even around town? It's not the buffeting, just wind noise. I think it has something to do with how huge the thing is, tho. That's why I insisted that the deflector be added (which they didn't have, but will have it put on next week). Hope it helps some.

One more thing I noticed is the driver side-view mirror seems to have a slight warp to it near the middle, toward the upper inside. I noticed it on mine, and the service tech pulled out another new LTD and it was the same. Looking through it almost feels like a fisheye effect or improperly adjusted eyeglasses. He's gonna call Mitsu next week and see if it's a defect or designed that way (for greater FOV).

All in all, the Montero is the only vehicle that met our needs without being too large, not large enough, or waaay overpriced. And with long-term reliability being an issue, we just couldn't bear going with the big three.

Anyway, thanks again, and I'll keep you posted WRT other observations. --Jimmy

jaynedough123 · February 2001

I have read a lot of posts here. I have noticed a couple of posts say they paid about 35K for a full size Montero and then some posts seem to be talking about paying about the same for a Montero Sport. Not everybody posting seems to specify whether their prices are for the sport or full size. So which is it? I have shopped around a little but not done real bargaining. How much should a Sport LTD and a Sport XLS be? And whats the diff between the two? I saw somebody mention paying for an extended warranty. Go to your credit union for the extended warranty. You will save at least a couple of hundred bucks if not $500. Join a credit union if you have to. I have gotten warranties on my last 2 cars from my credit union and they have been decent warranties. I was even honest with the last salesperson and gave him the exact amount I was paying for the warranty and he said he couldn't beat it( meaning that I didn't tell him it was lower than it really was just to get him to beat the deal.)

photo3 · February 2001

I was also concerned about the same as Ken131 : no 3 point shoulder belt or headrest for the middle center seat. I called many places to have one installed...no one would do it...it's a saftey issue. That's one thing that's holding me back on buying the Montero. I'm still considering.

dski · February 2001

>>Not everybody posting seems to specify whether their prices are for the sport or full size. So which is it?<<

To Clear up your confusion, this topic area is for the Full Size Montero. There is a seperate topic for the Sport version. This topic used to be labeled for the Full Size but unfortunately it was dropped when two topic areas where combined, thus creating confusion for new comers here.

Drew

dski · February 2001

Yes it would be nice to have a center shoulder harness. It does pose a bit of a challenge to put them into SUV's I suppose. At least a challenge to add them without adding lots of cost.

My biggest pieve right now is the absolutely STUPID design of the three Child Seat Anchors bolted into the cargo floor. I am amazed at how stupid this design is. It is a cargo floor which needs to have a flat surface. These anchors have caused me lots of frustration since I use the Monte for hauling cargo all the time. They should have been designed in a way that keeps the cargo floor flat without obstruction. I attempted to remove them to see what would be left behind but if you do that, it leaves an unfinished hole in the carpet which will surely get damaged. Anyone have any luck coming up with a way to replace the anchors so that the cargo floor has a flat finished look and is protected? I'll be working on this one. Probably have to bolt down a large washer to hold the carpet in place and at least reduce the obstructions.

Drew

counselor2 · February 2001

jaynedough123 - I paid about $35k for my full-size Montero Limited with tow hitch, side-steps, rear air, and wheel locks.

As for the three-point seatbelt issue, the problem with a lap belt only is that in an accident, the belt can permit the occupant to ramp up backwards in the seat and possibly slide out from the belt. Also, lap belts are supposed to be worn across the hips, not up across the abdomen. The three-point belt helps to keep the occupant from sliding around and getting out of position. If the lap belt slides up around the abdomen and you are thrown forward, you can have serious abdominal injuries. So, yes, it's a potential safety issue. I don't know of any way to re-fit the center seat for a three-point belt. Would I like to have one? Sure. Did it stop me from buying the truck? No way. (And just to show you that I'm no risk-taker, my other car is a Volvo.)

mp19fan - Congratulations on your purchase. I have been thrilled with my 2001 Limited. The only complaint that I have with the truck is the same one you do (driver's-side mirror). I also had a problem with a mirror on my Volvo that distorted images, and Volvo replaced it with a new mirror that was fine. So, when I took my Monte back to the dealer to request a new mirror, I thought that the mirror was just warped and could be easily replaced. I was surprised when the dealer told me that's just the way they are. It's an annoyance with an otherwise outstanding vehicle. With the money that I saved over MDX, M-Class, etc. (plus I can tow my boat!), I'll live with it.

phonos · February 2001

I found these things this weekend. Appear to be markers: If you poke your finger around in the seam on the seat bottom toward the rear you'll find slits in the leather directly in line with these circles. If you poke you finger in, all the way down into the slit you'll feel what I think are attachment points for something. (Maybe child safety seat?) Or now that I think about it maybe the latches for the second seat that allow you to fold it forward? I'll have to go fold up the seat and look again tonight.

I took the seat anchors out, replaced the bolts -- haven't had any problems. I do like the idea of adding large washers, but won't the bolt heads then stick up and sort of defeat the removal of the anchors in the first place?

I'm glad it's not just my mirror, I thought I really needed new glasses (which I do, but nice to know it is the mirror).

mp19fan · February 2001

jaynedough123- After researching Edmund's Town Hall-SUVs boards for about 2 months, I finally decided the best vehicle for my wife and I would be the full sized Montero. The very helpful people in this topic suggested a price of $34k-$34.7k for the LTD w/ rear air. I got the Limited w/ rear air and dealer installed extras (running boards, rear spoiler, sunroof wind deflector) for $35k at my local dealer in So Cal. Hope this helps. --Jimmy

phonos · February 2001

Hey Jimmy;

Congradulations.

Sounds like you got one of the best deals yet. Where did you end up buying? Find us a good full size Montero mechanic in SoCal

Photos of places to go in SoCal try out 4x4 capability at

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1205042

None of these places are really extremly rough. I'll post some photos of recent Death Valley trip when I get time to download the camera.

-Paul

cct1 · February 2001

Phonos is correct--these are the slits for the next generation child seats, which are not out yet in the U.S......They will attach through the slots directly to the vehicle--they are supposed to be safer than the current child seats, and hopefully will be easier to install properly.

mp19fan · February 2001

Cool pics! I esp. liked the Joshua tree and Indio ones. I'd most likely plan a day trip soon. Any suggestions? Maybe Palmdale or Angeles Forest area.

I finally made the deal thru Puente Hills Mitsubishi, which is about 5 minutes from my house. I'll be checking out their svc. area this week and talk to a couple of their mechs. to see if any of them are Montero experts.

Can't wait to see some pics of Death Valley.

BTW, conselor2 and phonos, I received a call from the svc. rep regarding the driver's side mirror this evening, and I think he's gonna order another one from the factory. I'll call him tomorrow to confirm, as I wasn't home and he left a message. I'll post as soon as I get some more info. --Jimmy

jmeach · February 2001

I just bought a 2001 montero limited (with 10,000 miles on it) for 28,900 it did not have the rear climate control on it, I think I got a good deal, but wondered what you guys thought. Also does anyone know if you can add the rear climate control or is it a factory only addition ?

claybuster · February 2001

I am looking for a tan (have tan leather interior) rubber cargo mat; but my local dealer says they are not available yet? Anybody purchased one yet? Do you know dealer cost?

zalmoxes · February 2001

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR THIS INFO IF YOU HAVE IT.. WE READ SOME ARTICLES AND IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL TO BUY A CAR FROM CANADA TO US. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WITH A MONTERO LTD, OR KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT/ appreciate the help! thanks so much

dski · February 2001

Mitsubishi's are not sold in Canada. I have some business colleagues in Canada who are not happy about Mitsu not being available there. They Love my Montereo and want one. One guy is considering purchasing one here and bringing it to Canada. I'd think that would be a problem with warranty and service issues.

Drew

counselor2 · February 2001

Jimmy, I will be interested to see if your service rep can come up with a better mirror. Please let us know.

claybuster, I also was told that the factory didn't have rubber floor mats or a cargo liner out yet, although the caro liner, at least, is expected soon. I was going to order tan rubber floor mats from Weathertech (www.weathertech.com), which run about $90 for a set of front and rear mats, and a black cargo liner, which also costs $90. But, I really haven't heard anything either good or bad about those mats, so if anyone has any feedback on them, I'd appreciate it.

As long as we're on the subject of accessories, has anyone found a good roof-rack mounted or trailer-hitch mounted cargo box for hauling stuff? Any thoughts about/experiences with accessing a roof-mounted box or raising the center of gravity by putting stuff on the roof? Thanks in advance.

phonos · February 2001

Here's a link to a 2000 Pajero Project Vehicle that a 4-wheel drive store in Australia is building. Link was sent to me from one of the hard core Montero off roaders on oudoorwire.com.

I've already sent an e-mail to them asking about the springs they added to this project to give it a 50mm (2in.) lift.

http://www.motorcare.com.au/demonstrator.htm

claybuster · February 2001

I have had the same "Check engine light" come on in the first 80 miles and is still on after 160 miles now. I called Monte service and they said it is an emission deal and probably related to gas cap not tightened properly. I removed the gas cap and re-tightened 50 miles back, but "Check engine light" has not gone off yet. Looks like I will have to take it in to dealer for a check. Anybody found a fix for this problem?

claybuster · February 2001

Thanks for the feedback. I think I will wait fro the factory mats. Has anybody purchased the factory top luggage carrier and does it work O.K. or does anybody know of a better after market luggage carrier?

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karno1 · February 2001

Recently test drove this behemoth! drove like a true dream. Have driven the Bmw X5, ML320, MDX, yet the MONTERO truly comes across as the best in handling. Nice high center level view, felt like the famous old Range Rovers to me (IMO that is). yes, it could use more power, but is adequate. If one is gonna drive such a nice big thing, there certainly will not be a need to take it so fast. Is better to be noticed than to zip on by w/o getting noticed.

My one question is that of the audio system. I am aware that it is made by the ever so famous Infinity brand (parent company JBL), but didn't get to really get a feel for the sound. Any comments on the quality of this sound system? I am a former owner of a Grand cherokee which used to always incorporate Infinity audio systems......and it sure sounded grrrrreat!!! (I guess the reason why they both use the same brand is due to Chrysler and Mitsubishi often used to share assembly lines and parts with eachother in the past. Do they still have a joint collaboration with eachother?)

mp19fan · February 2001

The Infinity system in our LTD is actually a very god factory system. Considerably better than my '98 GC Laredo (which I thought was pretty good), but not quite as nice as my wife's '93 Lexus ES300. Not sure who manufactures it, but IMO that has to be one of the cleanest sounding stock systems.

That was one of the requirements for the Montero. It has to have a good system. She sat in it for about 20 minutes while going through her CD collection, and finally gave the thumbs up. Adjustments are very straightforward, but I do wish there were EQ controls.

BTW, while closing the back door, I was wondering if the sheer weight and constant opening and closing of it would eventually cause it to sag a bit, not unlike solid core doors for some homes? And doesn't the info screen on the dash of the LTD just scream for a nav. system?

Another thing, do any of you check the other SUV topics? As one who was also considering a Sequoia (too expensive for what you really get, too large for our needs, first year model, and did I mention too expensive?), I frequently checked over there. Boy, are they ever defensive about their purchases! And a tad too condescending for my tastes. If you're considering anything other than a Seq, you're throwing your money away, according to them. --Jimmy

cct1 · February 2001

I bought the weathertech mats--I really like them. I couldn't find any other mats with deep enough grooves to handle the weather here (Wisconsin). There is one disadvantage--you have to cut them to fit the driver side and rear seats...(the passenger side doesn't need to be modified.). It's not that hard to do--there are lines between the grooves specifically there so the mats can be modified, but for $90.00 you would think they would fit without any changes (they USED to be vehicle specific, but I think weathertech is trying to cut corners....)

phonos · February 2001

Check out the carriers on the Thule website. The Model 754 loadbars will fit on the factory parallel rails on the 2001 Montero. Almost all the Thule accessories, ski and snow board racks, luggage and bike carriers, etc. will then attach to the load bars, which are really very heavy duty. We drove to Idaho and back from SoCal with snowboard rack -- very little noticeable increase in wind noise.

good luck

-phonos

zalmoxes · February 2001

ALLOW ME TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFO I DO NOT WANT TO ABUSE OF YOUR KINDNESS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME QUESTION IN REGARDS TO MB 320. IF THEY CAN BE PURCHASED IN CANADA BEST REGARDS

brillmtb · February 2001

Roof Rack: I have been looking around. There are very nice fully enclosed cases but they dont clear under most garages so would have to be taken off/on in my case. Some have "quick releases". These go from $400-800 and are very nice.

There is a Yakama rack (Load Warrior), I think they have 3 models now, that you can add an extension on. It is very well built. You can attach any of thier accessories directly to the rack for bikes, skies, etc. I am waiting to see the cross members that they are developing for the Montero 2001 which they assured me are due out anytime. They recommend thier crossmembers stating that they are considerably stronger. These racks seem to have a lower profile and will clear my garage. You would need water proof bags for travel and security would be a greater issue unless you take the bags off at night and put them in the vehicle.

MATS:

The dealer gets them from Husky I believe. When you call Husky I think I remember them saying they offer other colors. Why the dealer doesnt get them I dont know. I would check with Husky liners for the color you want. They should still fit custom like the dealers and probably cost you less.

karno1 · February 2001

I believe lexus uses Nakamichi for their high end sound systems....and boy, do they sound good. If you want to see a nice stock radio for a car, check out the BMW Premium audio system....costs $1200 bucks extra as an option, and is made by Alpine. EQ's only add complications to the consumer. Takes a long while to get it fine tuned. I like the system to be more straight forward, with the simple controls, and good sound.

I guess one won't know how well this sound system is until they spend a long time driving around in the vehicle. Will probably take a nice long trip to figure it out.

cct1 · February 2001

Husky liners do not come custom fitted to the Montero, at least not yet(I checked before buying the weathertechs), and there won't be any custom made Husky liner mats for the Monte anytime soon, from what I understand.

brillmtb · March 2001

Thanks for the update. I thought my rear cargo mat was made by Husky for the Dealer but I threw away the product inserts.

cct1 · March 2001

Ok Ok let me beat this to death....Brill, I was talking about floor mats only--I had the dealer throw in a cargo mat for me--so I don't know anything about aftermarket cargo mats--just floor mats....Sorry for any confusion.

phonos · March 2001

In the past there have been requests for information on where to go to try a new Full Size Monte on a trail. I found the following on-line bookstore that specializes in 4x4 trail guides, maps, videos, etc.

Here's link to their offerings by state::

http://4x4books.com/state.htm

karno1 · March 2001

FYI: just got a call from a local mitsu. dealer. They told me that the 4.9 is still currently being offered as of now. So its not too late to get approved for that rate. For those of you's that are still considering buying this truck at that rate, theres still a chance. I've seen other manufacturers offer extentions on the low financing rates. With any luck, we might be able to see them extend this rate for another month or two.....ya think? I sure am keeping my fingers crossed, for I still have 2 payments left to make on my current vehicle, before I can even consider purchasing the Monty. By the way, has anyone ever experienced having the dealer paying off your current debt on a car, just to get you into a new Monty? The sales rep. did run that by me on the phone, and said that it could be possible for them to make my remaining 2 payments to get me into a new Monty. Any info on this matter would be greatly appreciated!!! :O)

mp19fan · March 2001

I've heard from one dealer (in an email) that they were also offering 60 days deferred payments. As for the dealer paying off the current debt it your old car, forget about it. What usually happens is that they simply add it on to the purchase price of the new car, effectively increasing your purchase price as well as increasing your monthly payment. The 2 payments on your old car would simply get stretched out over 48 or 60 months, and you'd be paying interest on that amount as well.

If I'd have known that they would be extending the 4.9%, I would have waited as well. I also have 2 more payments on my leased JGC. However, I got a great deal and I couldn't take the chance of missing the great rate, saving thousands over a conventional rate. --Jimmy

karno1 · March 2001

Mind sharing with us what deal you exactly got on the ltd.? Is it hard to get approved for the 4.9% rate? Are they very skeptical when it comes to giving approval?

So in essence, they are willing to add my remaining 2 payments from my previous car onto the tab of the new one??? Thats not

mp19fan · March 2001

The very helpful people in this topic suggested a price of $34k-$34.7k for the LTD w/ rear air. I got the Limited w/ rear air and dealer installed extras (running boards, rear spoiler, sunroof wind deflector) for $35k + t/l at my local dealer in So Cal, Puente Hills Mitsubishi. If you get a chance, speak either to Louie or Omar (fleet mgr.). Both are good people. This beats all prices I received over the internet.

4.9% for 60 months are reserved for people with very good credit (scores of over 700). They get your credit report and it's either a yes or no. It's a good idea to check your credit prior to negotiating a deal so there are no surprises.

As far as adding your two remaining payments on top of your negotiated price, I'm sure that can be done. First, I would negotiate the best price for the Montero w/o letting them know what you have planned for your old car. That way you get the absolute best price, then you can ask about adding the remaining payments on top of that. Or try and hit them up with a suggestion that they help pay half of what you owe. Doesn't hurt to ask. Hope this helps. --Jimmy

phonos · March 2001

Whoa Jimmy:

Did you get 4.9% for 60 months? You really got a good deal. The longest term in August, 2000 when we bought was 48 months. With the added extras you got, I think you got a very fair deal. Do you know off-hand what prices they are getting for the running boards, spoiler, and wind deflector?

Still looking for a 2001 Montero mechanic in SoCal

-Paul

dski · March 2001

I'd assume you could buy a Mercedes in Canada since they are sold there. I really don't know anything about purchasing vehicles there or what the advantages and dissadvantages would be. I only responded to your original question since I knew that Mitsubishi's are not sold in Canada. What are the advantages of purchasing in Canada and bringing to the U.S.? It sure seems like a lot of trouble and potential problems when obtaining title in the states.

Drew

dski · March 2001

I had a long conversation with the Service Manager at my dealer a few days ago on several issues. I found his comments about Synthetic Oil interesting. He claims that Mitsubishi strongly discourages their use in the Montero and several of their other vehicles. Apparantly it has been causing premature failure in the Hydrolic type valve system they use. I have to admit, the only vehicle I used Synthetic in, developed noisy lifters and needed a valve job to corrrect it.

The service manager couldn't get too specific but he did claim that of the Early Valve jobs they do, a high percentage of those customers were using Synthetic Oil. The others were obviously neglecting regular Oil Changes. He claimed it had to do with an incompatability of their Hydrolic Type Valve System with Synthetics.

I know some of you here are Big Fans of Synthetics but don't shoot the messenger. I'm only passing on what I was told. If you want to use Synthectic, I'd at least recommend discussing the issue with your dealer to decide for yourself what the best choice is.

We also discussed a study done on NY Taxis that compared changing oil every 3K vs. every 6K. He was recommending every 3K of course but interestingly the study concluded that after 100K, there was NO measurable difference in wear after autopsies of these engines were done. Funny. So why should I take the every 3K advice? I"ve been doing changes at about 5K.

drew

brillmtb · March 2001

Are you sure they offer 4.9% for 60 month. I was able to get it for 48months. I think it jumps to 5.? for 60months unless things recently changed.

For those of you wanting a restated price target I was able to get a limited with rear air many moons ago for 34,700. I would go for 34,500 now.

Hitches can be added for about $170 Parts and $50 labor compared to something like >$300 that they wanted to charge me. The advantage of dealer installation is that they still dont sell the wiring harness separatly as they have in past years. If it is a plug in that would be better then a universal wiring although a good installer can do a quality job even without a factory plug. Hence, I told the dealer to keep his hitch, the plug issue did not warrent the difference in price.

I hear rumors that the wiring harness will become available at a later date.

Good luck

stever · March 2001

You sound like a candidate for Edmunds' Synthetic motor oil message board:-). Take your hardhat with you, lol.

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brillmtb · March 2001

Thanks for the info on oil. It is interesting that they discourage synthetic oil which MAY be better and encourage more frequent oil changes when data exists that there is no need.

Both recommendations MAY be slanted so the dealer makes more money either in more frequent oil changes or in increased wear IF synthetics really are better.

I use synthetics now but would be willing to change on a dime if there is some truth to what you are hearing.

thanks again....now off to the synthetic oil site.

zalmoxes · March 2001

DSKI! appreciate your response. the advantage of purchasing a car from Canada are;
3-5k in price due to currency -change.
the cars are better equipped leather European instrumentation.
the bad part is only the amount of paper work,taxes custom things etc. regards zalmoxes

mp19fan · March 2001

Says so right here on my sales invoice, I have 59 (*sigh*) more payments at 4.9% to go before it's all mine.

As for the dealer added extras, on the window sticker it listed the running boards at $999 and the rear spoiler at $399. Yep, I'm thinking the same thing...

After driving with the sunroof open, I insisted that they include the wind deflector (quite a bit of wind noise, but understandable for such a large opening). They wouldn't budge, so I offered $50 more to close the deal, which they reluctantly agreed to. Apparently their cost for it was +/- $100. Not sure of the retail price.

$34,500 seems like a good price for one w/ rear air. The best I could find online was $34,540. The reason I got the dealer extras was because that's how they outfit nearly all of their LTDs. Negotiating a price on something that's already installed is simpler because they really don't want to have to spend the time to remove the stuff. But it can also allow the dealer to overcharge the unsuspecting buyer.

They have about 20-30 Monteros on their lot, about half are LTDs, so selection is pretty good. --Jimmy

karno1 · March 2001

Yep, they are advertising 4.9% for 60 months out here in NJ. BTW, any of you's buy a MONTY from NJ, if so, which one? It would help cut down the small talk w/ these folks by getting a recommendation from any former customers.

Brillmtb, you are right about the price, I put in an offer for 34,500 on a monty ltd. I'm planning on aiming for lower at competing dealers. I read on this post that someone picked up a limited for 33,700 including boards and spoiler.....i think. Now that sounds like a terriffic deal!! You guys think i have a shot at that price?

Does the rear spoiler really do anything for the truck other than cosmetic appearance? I think it gives it a bit of a hoodlum look IMO.

claybuster · March 2001

Well I could not get the "Service Engine Soon" light on the instrument cluster to go out on my 2001 Full size Monte Ltd.s (@ about 160 miles on the engine). I took it back to the dealer and they checked the computer and it indicated it was in 4WD and required additional fuel, per the service manager. Anyway they reset the computer and checked a few sensors, these new emissions system must be very complicated, with a lot of different sensors. The light went out after the computer reset, so I filled the tank with 92 octane and tightened the lid until it clicked. I have been driving in just 2WD to see if a sensor was not re-setting if move from 4WD back to 2WD. Tonight it came on again, just as I was coming to a stop after about 80 miles. This is starting to be a real pain. The good news is that I got a little over 20 mpg for the 1st half tank, assuming I filled the same.

Anybody else having this "Service Engine Soon"
light problem?

I plan to take it back to the dealer and let him keep it until it's fixed. After talking to the service manager, I am concerned that they don't even stock many of the sensors.

This is not a real good start! 250 miles and it's going back to the shop for the 2nd time! New rig bugs!

dski · March 2001

I think I'll avoid going into the Sythetic Oil Discussion area.

I have no agenda or strong opinion on the subject. I've always beleived that Syn's are great for performance vehicles who's engines will run much hotter than those in every day cars - And overkill for the rest. My only suggestion is that if you want to use them, do some research and see if in fact Mitsu discourages it and why. I've found that the way they design their cars is sometimes a little different than the typical manufacturer so maybe there is something to what my dealer said.

Also, the frequence of oil changes was a comment from the service manager and not something that Mistsu has issued. The owners manual supports the intervals I use. Under normal conditions, Modern Oils can go quite a bit longer than 3K. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

Drew

rhodes3 · March 2001

Hello:

New to the board here. We picked up our Montero Ltd. two weeks ago and have enjoyed every drive. The posts here were very helpful in making our decision. We looked at almost all the competition and this vehicle just seemed like the best combination of value, looks, size, and uniqueness. We came close to going a little bigger with the Yukon until we realized that almost every third or fourth SUV we saw on the road seemed to be a Yukon/Tahoe. Too common.

I have a question regarding the display screens. The manual shows three different displays: the compass, the large clock and the air conditioning. However, mine only toggles between two. I've never seen the air conditioning. Was this changed after the manual was printed, is something wrong with mine, or am I missing something? I just noticed this because I've only recently had the chance to sit down and go through the whole manual.

Otherwise, great vehicle, great value, and just uncommon enough that you don't look like everybody else on the road.

Mitsubishi Montero

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