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Jeep Liberty Common Rail Diesel Meet & Greet
Stop in here to say hi to your fellow CRD owners and compare notes. And feel free to jump in if you don't own one but just have interest or are kicking tires.
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Please take specific problems or trends to one of the narrower discussions, for example, please post in the Jeep Liberty CRD Diesel: MPG - Real World Numbers discussion if you want to take mileage.
And feel free to create a new discussion about anything CRD - we don't want to discourage anyone from posting by having to search through 8,000 other messages first.
If you need help creating a new discussion, please check the Help link at the bottom or just ask. Thanks!
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Just for information about 30% of diesel pumps have the new 15 ppm sticker on the pumps. Diesel has remained $2.43 for the last 3 weeks. BUT gas is $1.99 . Why the 44 cents a gallon more?
Here is a big welcome to everyone!
Farout
nescosmo
To be very honest, no matter who wins, after the election is done, I try to spend more time praying for the President and the VP, than finding fault with the elected person. Both Parties have unique differences, and each has it's own direction they feel will best take our country.
One thing I know for sure, who ever runs, that is willing to ask for a Jeep Unlimited 4 door Wrangler, stretched out limo. will get my vote! In fact due to the threats, we should get all government vehicles made by Jeep. Is this not an outstanding idea?
One last thing, I did not know that Mr. Mickey Mouse won the election! Why didn't some one tell me!
Farout
The press itself might not measure up to those same standards were they to subject themselves to honest scrutiny! In any case, let's avoid the temptation to further divert into political discussions.
tidester, host
I have enjoyed yours and a few other major posters on this site. I have read the jeep liberty forum from the first message in anticipation of the 06 Liberty Limited CRD 4WD we ordered while in Germany. I have been transferred to a Command in Kansas City and we picked up our new Liberty in July 06 when we returned to this area, and it was one of the last ones made in May 06. We have over 9K miles on it already, and the only problem is the battery went out, and Overland Park Jeep replaced it for us with a normal battery, which is working fine. For awhile, we could not find S15, but starting about a month ago, we are having no problems getting it. The Liberty is my wife's, and she absolutely loves it. Parks much easier than any other vehicle we have owned. Look forward to continuing with this forum.
SemperFi06
Farout
Bob&Bek
Here are some suggestions I personally suggest. Avoid Bio diesel higher than b-10, the better choice, as stated in the Owners manual is B-5. Bio fuels are NOT consistent in quality, or as to how much bacteria is growing in the fuel. Bacteria comes naturally in dino Diesel, but Bio adds even more of a risk. Some in the forum feel that using B-99 is doing just fine for them. My idea is the true test of time and long term mileage has yet to prove this does not cause damage. V M Motori stands firm on mot using Bio above B-10. The other big issue is the oil. DCX says to use Mobile 1 0-40w but you can use 5-40w if the other is not available. Where we live Mobile 1 0-40w is very hard to find. Not only that, I wrote V M Motori and they said 5-40w or 10-40w is what they suggested for summer/ winter (if it gets 18F or below. I have gone with Shell Rotella T 5-40w Synthetic. It costs $15.20 for a gallon at WalMart. My dealer charges $95. for an oil cahnge, which I know it to much, they charge $9. a quart! Some of those CRD owners have gone to 15-40w in several different brands. Again the letter I got from V M Motori says NOT to use oil above 10-40w. So all these wonderful things are yours to choose. Then there is the issue as to how often to change the oil. V M Motori brakes every engine in before it leaves the factory. They again drain the oil, so you have a fresh broke in engine with new oil. Some have drained the oil at as little as 1,000 miles. I changed my oil at 9,000 miles and then at 7,500 miles, I will be changing the oil again soon. I will change my fuel/water filter at about 32,000 miles. I went through my first quart of oil at 2,900 miles. Now it uses a quart about every 6,500 miles.
As far as problems no major problems, except at 14,000 miles the PCM was replaced, due to getting 17 mpg. And the ball joints were replaced under warranty. Yours may be under recall as well, ask the dealer.
Little things like the front passenger seat belt was replaced twice, fuel pump/sending unit for fuel gauge/ was replaced three times, because fuel gauge was way off.
I would check around to see who has the best Tec who knows the CRD very well. The biggest issues are related to Tec's that do not know much about the engine. If ever your EGR goes out make sure they replace the PCM as well, as that is the cause of the EGR failing.
That's about all I can say, except I wish you many miles of fun careful driving.
Farout
SemperFi06
It has been my thought that the DCX computer controlling everything is not up to par as they invisioned. The system works, but anything that just doesn't fit into the computers program range is left out some where in cyber car space. I have heard if the power is disconnected from the battery for some time (don't know how long) then it re-learns your driving style and this too might help. But, I sure would not follow this unless you know this for sure.
Although I have not used OP Jeep, by my talking with the Service manager he seemed to be pretty knowledgeable. Hope this helps.
Farout
Nescosmo....
Thanks
Axxmatt
Nescosmo
Nice to see all this disscussion. Thanks!
Farout
Goolie
Our service tech says we should not be concerned and bring the car in unless the indicator light is flashing for other problems with the jeep. We had the ball joints replaced;the transmission converter recalls performed. When we heard about the ball joints, I called the dealer ship and they told me it depended on where the jeep was built. Eventually we were notified when we took the jeep in for the transmission recall. The egr air flow control gasket and valve went bad and had to be replaced. Now, the power steering fluid is leaking.
The brake rubbing noise that came with the vehicle is still evident. My husband went into talk to our 5 star dealer owner and he said he didn't know about this problem.
WHAT?
I will never,ever,ever buy another Chrysler product.
Good thing I bought the extended warranty.
I drove my last Ford for over 23 years with only one significant problem.
The tires that come with Liberty's are the GoodYear ST passenger lite duty tires. They are two ply rated as 4 ply. These tires are very smooth to drive but most change them out ASAP. I have had three Liberty's and within 300 miles these ST tires were gone! You need a full 6 ply rated tire, you just might consider a lite truck tire. You can get up to a 10 ply tire, it all depends upon your driving and needs.
All Jeep liberty's are built in Toledo, Ohio. The thing that they needed to know was when the CRD was built, so they misled you on that point. You call any DC dealer and ask for the Service dept. Give then your VIN and they can give you the day and month it was made. That's good to know so you can follow if a recall is done again to see if your CRD is in the recall.
The recalls have been to make your Liberty last longer and safer. We too have had the same EGR air flow valve replaced, could be because of poor fuel, and before the ULSD went into effect it was easy to get.
These CRD's are a excellent vehicle, but DCX put it into production with some very rough edges, and most likely most seem to be worked out. Give it some more time, with a better caring dealer and you will be pleased.
Farout
I loved the jeep as soon as I got in it. Thank you for your kind response. Do you know how the dealers were notifed of the the noisey brake problem? I probably need something in writing for them to pay attention. :lemon:
There has been a good enough posts on this forum about the brakes making noise, so if you call the Customer Care they just might be able to help you. Here in the lower US the number is 1800 992 1997, maybe this works for you there as well. If you did not get the Extended Warranty you just might regret it. I got the max care Service Warranty 5 years 100,000 miles no dect. There is also one other person on the forum that lives in Alaska too. I believe the engine is a sound solid engine, but finding Tecs that know what they are doing is a bit of a sticky wicket old chap. Or young chap if you are. I hope this helps. You might go to the Liberty diesel forum there is where more of the CRD'ers are.
Farout
1. When is the last time you changed the air filter?
2. When you shift, are you inadvertently dis-engaging the overdrive? Look for a light on the dash.
3. Have you cleaned the boost pressure sensor?
4. Have you changed the little filter on the passenger side of the engine that helps with controlling the turbo boost/waste gate?
I'm not into all the mods I've heard people doing to improve their KJ CRDs.
Yet.
Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
Thanks.
xav8r