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I am sure people can get scared away thinking that they may not get dealer/parts support. Besides, Mitsu has been in doldrums stateside and their rep is so so as of now. It'd be self serving if they comes out and reassure potential customers that they did pour good bit of money into product development despite their financial woes. Oh and that quality is all there with made in japan and what not.
I am also very skeptical at this point about pricing as in Canada, prices traditionally are very high.. so a fully decked out outlander might cost upwards of 40 grand CAD. That'd be another detriment in my book. Add to the fact that their showroom is not so appealing with dowdy vehicles which are aging rapidly guaranteed with brutal depreciation..
They need to provide a compelling reason for folks to overlook the bustling dealerships of other makes and come into rent-a-room dealership (atleast in canada) with low traffic. Pity though since I always liked quirkyness of mitsu and suzuki..They dont deserve the bad rep they got.
And I know what you mean about the need to re-assure potential new customers that Mitsu is not leaving the states. As it is, here in NJ, USA there don't seem to be a lot of Mitsu dealerships. There are TONS of Chevy, Ford, GM, and Toyota dealerships in my area, but maybe only 2 Mitsu's.
I honestly can't figure out why Mitsu has dropped down to it's current state. Yes, their sedans are bland... but I actually think their new Eclipse design is quite stylish and I'm surprised that more people aren't buying them. I have to admit that I don't really see a point in offering the Raider, since it seems like everyone is running out to buy Nissan Titan's these days. I also feel that the Montero is, in my opinion, way overpriced. But still, I can't believe things could be so bad that there would actually be talk of them leaving the U.S. market.
Hopefully, the new Outlander will have the same response as it did in Japan, although the competition (especially the RAV4) will be tougher here in the U.S. I got a response from a local dealership saying that they should have them on the lot Nov. 1st, so maybe soon I'll actually get a chance to inspect one up close. I think that Outlander has an awful lot going for it feature and value-wise, although I think the interior looks a little second-rate compared to the stunning interior of the new Santa Fe.
I spoke to a few recently and got answers ranging from "in a few weeks" to "next month".
Whoa :surprise: .. SantaFe and stunning in the same sentence? :sick:
Plastics are similar, front seats much more comfortable, sporty looking, back seats slide and recline. It is pretty easy to open both halves of the gate or tumble rear seats. On the road - nice and quiet, good pick up. I would give it 8 of 10.
Could you list your
PROS
CONS
Thanks!
I had received a phone call from "Prestige Volkswagen/Mitsubishi" in Turnersville, NJ.
They sent me an email giving me an arrival date of Nov. 1st and also gave me the same date on a voicemail message which they had left on my phone.
One thing that I liked about the email is that it says if they don't have the Outlander that you want on their lot they can find it equipped the way you want and have it on the lot for you in usually between 24-48 hours. They also said in the email that if you prefer they will factory order the truck exactly as you want it.
If I do decide to get one after January I think that factory ordering is the route which I will probably end up taking, because something tells me that certain colors (like the "Deep Blue Metallic" I am currently in love with) will be harder to locate than others.
Excellent value esp. in LE trim
Fresh, good looks in and out
Long warranty
Refined, efficient engine, regular fuel
CONS:
5 passenger version with leather pkg. not available
Need room for seven? Hold on to your van
30K sticker on loaded compact non premium CUV
"We build it, will they come?"
When does the 07 Outlander officially go on sale? On the Outlander's web site it says November, but would it be 1st or 30th?
www.mitsubishicars. com still "sells" 2006 Outlander but not 2007.
MITSUBISHI - Wake up and sell!....
feature?
SUN & SOUND PACKAGE:
650-watt (max.) Rockford Fosgate® audio system nine speakers including an integrated, enclosed 10-inch rear subwoofer • 6CD/MP3-compatible in-dash changer (LS only) • Digital Signal Processing • Auxiliary input jack • Six months of pre-paid Sirius® Satellite Radio • Power glass sunroof
Mitsubishis Canadian Site is DEAD. It does not even mention 2007 model. What a shame... What kind of % Rate are they offerring on 2007 Otlander 60 months?
%3.9 - 48 months
%4.9 - 60 months
I can't remember if these rates are good until 12/2007 or 1/2008.
The features that were very appealing about this car looks like things you have to pay for, even on the XLS trim...very disappointing.
However, when I choose the 4WD XLS, and click on the "Sun and Sound Package" it automatically clicks the "Luxury Package" as well? I don't think you need to get both? Maybe a programming error.
I hope to test drive one this afternoon.
We still have few 2006 models, and i would not wait for 2007, but i really like 3.0L engine.
In short, the official build and price tool revealed that some of our early guesses and perceptions about the vehicle are wrong, at least now we know the truth. Another case in example is the color Red, which isn't listed at all, but early press photos shows a red model.
But is it not cheap? Of course shelling out 28K isn't gonna be cheap. But look at what you will be getting, and try to check if you can get something of the same spec from another manufacturer for the same amount of money.
0% APR is offered in most cases as a "clearance" incentive. I don't expect it to be offered on new model. A 4.9% APR is the more realistic figure for someone with a good credit score. As for the "toys" and "blings", these aren't gonna come as bundled freebies. And as with any other manufacturer, no options are given for free. I don't think it would be fair to say "I'm disappointed with Mitsubishi for not giving me the Navigation Package and Leather seats for free with my XLS at 25,635$". You want it? then you have to pay for it.
But don't settle at MSRP. Most dealers I talked to are offering prices for the just a few hundred dollars above invoice. That's a lot less compared to the sticker price,and even the TMV prices, especially if you're looking at a fully loaded XLS. Go to your nearest dealer, test drive it, and get a quote on your favorite trim. You'll be surprised you can still save a few hundred $ from edmunds' TMV prices.
Being a first time car buyer in the US, I have learned that pricing will vary a lot between dealerships, and that car buying in America is more of an art rather than science. No hard and fast rules.
I am still looking to buy an XLS with all 3 factory options in. Having seen it for real and actually tested the toys, plus, having been quoted a price very close to invoice, you just can't pass on this offer.
1. Why can't one get Luxury without Sun&Sound and S&S without L.
2. Why can't one order more than one dealer installed packages.
The good thing is that you can get almost any special option individually. I see Navi, RSE, Bluetooth interface, fog lights selling on Ebay as individual kits.
It's good we can have some of the options "dealer installed" like the Navi system, RSE. The Bluetooth and fog lights will be applicable only to the LS. But if you ask me, I won't be comfortable buying these off eBay.I would rather have them installed from a reputable dealer. Most dealer installed options come with a 1 year warranty. While if I buy from eBay, I'd have to look for someone to install these kits, and if it's not a Mitsu dealer, I would likely void the warranty of the vehicle just in case things don't work right the first time. Case in example is the Navi kit, I did a good hard look at the dash of the base XLS, and the one with Navi, and I don't think the Navi kit is something you can fit as easiliy as the fog light. The bluetooth kit too requires buttons on the steering wheel, and wiring into the sound system, and it doesn't look like I can install that myself either. So I guess there are pros and cons to that.
2. Why can you only select ONE dealer installed package when more are available? Are they afraid of getting the dealers over worked installing too many packages on one car for one customer or getting too rich from doing it? Again, I just don't get it.
"1. I agree with the factory packages, but why have two of them where if you select one you get the second one as well. This is the non-sense I cannot understand. In this case why not have one factory package to include all the options in both."
In this case, Mitsu just want their site to be non-redundant. It really makes the site less cluttered with repeating info. Let's take the case of the XLS. If you click Sun&Sound, Luxury will get auto selected. They're 1 bundle but 2 items. If you click Navi, both Sun&Sound and Luxury gets auto selected too. So it's actually 1 bundle but with 3 items. I would like to make mention of Toyota's build and price tool on their site, just compare the selection of packages with Mitsu's site. If you ask me, Toyota's site is loaded with repetitive info, while Mitsu's site is direct to the point, and easily configurable (again my 2 cents).
I can understand this can be frustrating especially if you don't want the other options, like say I just want Navi and Sun and Sound, but I can't have it that way because you will never find an Outlander configured like that, and you will need to buy the Luxury package as well. But that is how Mitsu manufacture their vehicles. And as I've pointed out on an earlier post, it really reduces the complexity of manufacturing and marketing these vehicles.
"2. Why can you only select ONE dealer installed package when more are available? Are they afraid of getting the dealers over worked installing too many packages on one car for one customer or getting too rich from doing it? Again, I just don't get it."
Okay, just my observation here, as to why some accessory packages can't be chosen together. Again, let's take the XLS as an example. You can't select both Accessory Trailer Tow package and Accessory Protection Package because both of these packages have the mudguards as a component. So it makes sense you can't have two set of mudguards installed. What you can do then is to buy the Accessory protection package with the mudguards, and have the rest of the Trailer tow package installed as individual items because as you would have noticed they are available as individual items too. But as for the Navi and RSE, I don't why you can't have both as accessory packages at the same time. Might be a conflict in wiring these devices, I'm not so sure.
(sorry another long post )
Direct to the point? Hardly.
I am staring at the Mitsu "build" site now - building an XLS with both the NAV package and an accessory Nav Unit and the site allows me to build a car with both (wow - over $4000 in NAV!). It also lets me select fog lights for $310 which I believe are a standard feature on the XLS. I can select from 3 different priced NAV units (NAV package - $1800, accessory NAV package - $2190, or NAV unit as an accessory - $2840), which is very confusing - especially since I can "build" a car with 2 of the 3 installed! I can also build a car with both the accessory trailer tow package and an accessory trailer hitch. I do not know of any other auto website that lets you build a car with the same feature added multiple times.
I find the Mitsu site poorly done compared to Toyota, Honda, Hyundai (the other 3 cars I am looking at).
Also - the "compare to another vehicle" section of the site does not allow me to choose the vehicle - it only uses the ones that Mitsu chooses. I would prefer to compare V6 RAV4 (not I4) and the Hyundai Sante Fe (not Tuscon).
....on a different subject - Mitsu should have included a back up camera in the ~$2000 NAV system.
To each his own I guess. For me I find Mitsu's site better.
Yeah, I had noticed that, too. LOL
Could someone please tell me what the difference is between an
"Accessory Navigation Package" and a just, plain "Navigation Package"? My first thought was that it was merely the Navigation Package bundled with something like the Accessory Protection Package (scuff protectors, mudflaps, etc)... but from reading recent posts it seems that what it really means is that if you have the Nav system installed by the dealer and not the factory (hence it's an accessory), then they add another $400 to the price?
BTW, please check December Motor Trend SUV of the Year issue, they did evaluation of 22 brand new SUVs, including Outlander, Santa Fe, and Rav4 etc. Mitsu performance numbers are impressive in small SUV group, right behind RDX and CX7 except straight line acceleration (there are few with more hp). Interior received 4 stars (RAV4 - 3).
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I haven't seen the Outlander's interior yet, but I have seen the RAV4 and I think there is noting to write back home about it - hard plastic all around with little padding on the elbow rest on the door and the centre console arm rest. And the plastics are as hollow and hard as they can be. Well put together though, minimal gaps, etc.
However, the panel gaps don't seem to be an issue in the Outlander either based on the reviews.
Now, if the Outlander is underpowered with it's V6 220 hp, 6-speed auto and 8.x sec. 0-60 mph, what one could say about so much praised CRV or about any of the Santa Fe and Grand Vitara? Let's get real people and judge the vehicle itself not the company that makes it - see the stupid review in December's issue of Motor Trend, where half of it talks about the Mitsubishi's poor sales and whether or not the Outlander will be a "saviour".
Sorry for the long post.
"News
We hear Outlander will offer a 4-cyl engine, but probably not until model-year '09. It's a 2.4-liter unit sourced from the new Global Alliance joint venture that Mitsubishi operates with Chrysler Group and Hyundai. The 4-cyl was supposed to be available at launch, but was reportedly delayed by budget constraints at Mitsubishi."
What are these nuts talking about? Mitsubishi already have a 2.4L 4cyl engine fitted in the Outlander 2006, and most other 07 Outlanders models(Japan, New Zealand) have 2.4L engines on them. I don't think I'll believe that crap review.
If Mitsubishi is in that "budget constraints" it would have been logical they've used the existing 2.4L engines from 06 models, but they opted to develop a 3.0L engine instead, which is a good decision IMO. From 3.0L V6, I don't see them going back to a 2.4L 4Cyl. Lack of power was one issue in the 06 that they've addressed in the 07 model.
It's great to read a lot of reviews, but you need to sift through this pile of ... to get realistic and unbiased views. For me, CR is closest to being just that.
Don't worry. They have to do that. Mitsu came out to close to their 2007 sport/utility of the year winner Mercedes GL450 with big V8 in performance numbers. Check it by yourself. In OCT MT issue Ron Kiino wrote:
"Interior quality is premium and design contemporary...
3.0 liter with MIVEC is a refined and robust unit...
New Outlander has an air that's all SUV enhanced with such luxury as standard LED tail lamps, available Xenon headlamps and 18" wheels...Outlander can easily hang with the best in it's class...delivers excellent balance through high-speed maneuvers...Seeing that Outlander is now a legitimate contender."
I rest my case.
The sad thing is that not many people do extensive research when they buy a car and if they read Consumer Guide and Motor Trend like garbage reviews, they would walk away. Too bad..
These guys don't serve the public at all IMO.
"Outlander's liftgate has opening glass and a clamshell design that creates a handy drop-down tailgate section that can hold up to 400 lb."
What do they mean by "opening glass"?
Some dont offer this feature which means you have to swing out the entire rear hatch to put a gallon of milk :P
Hope it's not super ugly like some are.