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Never heard of the tire brand you noted in message.
Hey Mike: try this:
Go to Google.com
Search for Nokian and you will find :
http://www.nokiantires.com
Nokian Tyres is the largest tire manufacturer in the Nordic countries. The company develops and manufactures summer and winter tires for cars and tires for a range of heavy machinery. It is also the biggest retreading materials manufacturer and the biggest retreader in the Nordic countries. In addition, Nokian Tyres runs the Vianor tire chain with over 360 outlets across Finland, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Kazakstan, Switzerland and the US.
No need to thank me, I'm always pleased to help with Advanced computer techniques!
The larger tire will give longer tire tread life because you have more tread on the 19" tire than on the 17 or 18" wheels. The diameter is larger so the circumfrence of the tire is longer. This assumes that the tread depth is the same on both tires.
The diameter of 17" OEM tires/wheel combo is actually just .07" (yes point-zero-seven inches) smaller in the 17 than in the 19, and the section width is IDENTICAL! Not all that significant. Things will even up after just a little tread wear. Just a matter of mathematics. Here's an easy calculator: http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos to help you figure it out.
Tires can blow up on a trip any time, therefore manufactures should design the cars (with the excetion of exotic cars) with tires that are commonly available. I don't like the idea to travel in a car that has hard to get tires. You may get stuck without a car for many days, and worse is if you are on a long distance trip.
Yes indeed. Never thought of this 19-inch tire situation when purchasing my Highlander back in '08. I hear same story about the Toyo tires from two places in Michigan. I did act quickly enough to get the Open Country Tires from Belle Tire warehouse and I guess, those will be tires of choice for now. Tires have arrived at local Belle Tire shop and will be getting them mounted within next couple of days... Just in time for snow season. Vehicle has just passed 30K and OEM tires (Toyo Open Country) are shot.
Happy shopping and hope you find tires soon.
Please DO YOUR RESEARCH. That is just bad advice. EVERY manufacturer and reputable tire shop will tell you the new ones go on the rear and here's why:
http://www.discounttire.com/video/2NewTires.html
As I said... do your research! There's plenty more out there than just that link, but it demonstrates the reason pretty well!
Big deal! I can get the tire for $190.00 ea. at a local tire dealer, or my other option is to order them thru Tread Depot for $158.00 ea plus shipping. The only thing with going that route is that Tread Depot dosn't have any due to them being back ordered. I tell you, it really kills me to put another Toyo product on my car. Hopefully it will be the last!
I replaced A20 with H/T for ~$160/tire. So far so good. I am in the same boat as someone earlier - hopefully Mitchellin will come up with something next time around.
I hope you have MUCH better luck finding the Toyo H/T tires than I did. KanRock tires and Belle Tire (in Michigan) both report the H/T tires by Toyo are backordered way into December, at least. Thus, "nobody" has them in stock and with WINTER coming on real soon, I had to opt for the A20.
Agree with you that I too, had to "bite the bullet" and put "something" on the vehicle as winter is fast approaching and fearful the A20 will be out of stock as well. Oil change guys at local Toyota garage informed me that I made good decision by sticking with same size tires. Computer controlled mechanism and other "stuff" too numerous to mention would also mess up my gas mileage on vehicle. They too heard same results with Bridgestone tires for this vehicle.
I got the A20 installed this week at local Belle Tire shop. They tried to get the H/T for me but could not obtain until "at least" December.
Strange: TOYO tires have same letters as TOYOTA ! Could there be some sort of conspiracy going on? You be the judge !
Any insight on this? I know the OEM tire is the 245/55 R19, but, has anyone had Toyo 255/55 R19's installed at a Toyota dealer?
Going to a bit larger size tire probably will not hurt or harm vehicle. I went with A20 tires, same size as OEM on the vehicle. Same information obtained by the guys at local Toyota garage. Speed sensor indicator is tied to computer + transmission+other things too numerous to mention. Others who have went to different size tires report "lower" gas mileage among other issues. Same thing Michelin CSR told me on the phone. Very nice and honest people, but he too advised me to be careful in conjunction with Toyota warranty. They "probably" will be coming out with tires to fit Highlander, but not for awhile and until pent up demand warrants firing up the production line to support.
The TOYO H/T tires are not in production and production not scheduled until "December" is what I have been told by two sources: KanRock Tires + Belle Tire+Tiredepot online.
Never would I have thought there would be so "few" tires and tire brands from which to choose as "most" of us prepare for Winter driving.
Good luck.
MS
Steve
Steve
http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO_Open_Country_HT_P245_55R1_P4790C203.cfm?UserID=1- - 989683&jsessionid=ea30e90f9bca2e4d573a
I bought mine from treaddepot.com about a month ago. For long time they had only 3 tires. I checked every other day or so and once 4 tires in stock showed up, I jumped on it.
For winter I ordered the Blizzak's from the Tire Rack in the 245-55-R19 original equipt. tires size (still on B/O til the end of this month).
So, not sure it helps to reinforce that point, but for some 2008 Highlanders the 255 size was standard/OEM.
steve
19-in. 5-spoke alloy wheels with dark silver-painted accents, P245/55R19 tires and full-size spare tire on alloy wheel
And nothing on 255's
Having now admitted my error, can I ask if anyoen who is reading this message have the Michelin Latitude tires---or is this tire not made in the (correct) 245-55-R19 size?
The only ones, at this time, offering the 245/55/R19's, are Bridgestone and Toyo. but Michelin said it maybe offered by them next year as more vehicles are installing that size tire. I was complaining that I wanted the Michelin x-Ice winter tires and had to order the Blizzak's instead. Their loss as it will be awhile before I need new snows.
for those of you interested in the Toyo HT's, I had the tires installed yesterday on my 08 Highlander Limited. I like the ride, actually they are a little more smooth and quiet than the A20's.
I only got 11,000. miles out of the A20's, so I'm not happy about that !
These tires were purchased and installed for 815.00.
Blue Ridge Tire in Salem, VA. They had 3 sets as of yesterday !
Good luck to all still needing tires.
Ronn
Continental 4x4 Contact M&S 255/50 R19 360 AA 107H. The wear rating is a little lower than the Bridgestones that I have, but the temperature, traction and speed ratings are all better. I have no idea about the cost or availability of these tires but I will ask my relative when he returns about his winter driving experience. I don't know how my Bridgestones will be in the winter since I got my Highlander in April, but I guess I'll find out in a month or so.
I've gotten quite a few responses directed to me about people feeling that FOR NOW---and UNTIL MICHELIN OR OTHERS GET ONTO THE 245-55-R19 bandwagon---that the best available solution is the TOYO H/T in this correct size.
Various folks mentioned "good luck" in ever finding the Toyo H/T in this size----but then several others have responded suggesting they just bought a set in the last week or two. So, the Toyo H/T's seem to be available somewhere---even though I admit to not finding them on the little bit of looking via major online tire suppliers.
My thoughts---so I'm now starting to look for Toyo H/T's. (Actually my brother is---as we both have 2008 Highlanders but his has about 25K miles on his worn out A20's and mine was bought as a 2008 carryover so only has a few thousand miles on my A20's---but except the same universally reported poor wear on the Toyo A20's).
Steve in Minnesota
I decided to bite the bullet and take the 19" wheels off my Highlander. Toyota puts 245/65R17's on the base model Highlander and every tire company makes good tires in this size. I ordered OEM original factory 17"x7.5" Toyota rims on-line for about $150 each. I put Goodyear Fortera Triple-tread's on and the difference was noticeable immediately. No more sliding and jumping around on the road. I even got to test them in about 3" of snow. Man, what a difference!
Toyota should offer this size tire as an option on the Sport and Limited models.
"....Based on the information we have received, there are currently no plans to manufacturer this size at this time due to supply and demand. We are truly sorry we could not meet your request at this time.
This has been brought to the attention of marketing department. We really wish we could have accommodated especially since you have been a long time Michelin consumer." :mad:
Sorry you have heard same news from Michelin. Same news I was given by CSR at Michelin about one month ago when I discussed issue with them regarding Highlander LTD tires.
I wish I had been as lucky as past posting's regarding the TOYO tires (the H/T model) versus the A20. Appears some owners on East Coast and one on West Coast found the H/T TOYO tires at various tire shops in their respective areas. Not me in Michigan. Had to settle for the A20 version again now that WINTER is fast approaching and OEM tires were in BAD shape. Did not wish to change rims, go down a size, etc. as other readers indicated. Too much hassle, too many "potential" warranty issues, and who knows "what-else" besides an extra outlay of CASH. Good luck in your search.
Michigan Mike
Few days ago in the middle of 700+ mile trip, I got a flat. Local (middle of MN)
shop told me the hole is too large to fix and I had to put a spare on - which is A20.
I am driving back in few days with H/T on one side rear and A20 on the other, without a spare. Hope all goes well. If somone knows where to get one H/T tire in 245/55, please let me know. Otherwise, I will be stuck with A20 on the rear and H/T on the front....
I'm ready to order four HT's---just curious as to what the true net price will be from the various providers?
steve
that came with the car on purchase which only had 25,000 and were in bad shape one tire legally bald.
I called Toyo direct in California telephone number 1-800-442-8696 explaining how disappointed with their tires. They started up a file for me and directed me to a distributor in my area and told me to have them check out my tires and then call them. I did that today and was given a 40% discount per tire from them on an upgraded tire the Toyo Open Country HT P245/55R19 which has a rating of 60,000 miles.
This brought the total bill to $675.00.
I had previously got a quote for the same tire from the dealer. the price from them
$1,400.00.
I would encourage anyone having this problem to call Toyo Directly at the number above Good Luck!
I should add this price included alignment and representative said free rotation for the life of the tire.
Tires are on order and should be in next week or so.
Name of company I dealt with Direct Tire in Massachusetts.