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I ended up selling the car before I needed new tires.
I don't see why the sound would be "worse" if you rotated them back. However why not drive them that way for a few thousand miles and see if it goes away and rotate them back if not.
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I changed to Michelin LTX MS and got another 66,000 (changed them at 95,000 for another set of Michelin LTX MS)
The Michelin LTX MS handle great on dry roads, in the rain and on snow. Best tires I have ever had
I just want to know- my Toyota dealership wants to replace my tires with Goodyear Integrity tires at $152. a tire. I said "no" after reading reviews. I think the Goodyear Triple Treds are considered better and they say they cost $190. a tire. Is it worth it?
A previous vehicle of ours (not Toyota) had an issue where one wheel would slowly lock up, eventually so tight that the car would not move and the rotor was actually glowing red! Turning off the car reset the controller and released the brake.
the root cause was the ABS controller was snockered.
I fitted a set of Yokohama Geolander HT/S to my Kluger twelve months ago and have been extremely impressed by their performance, particularly compared to the original Toyos which had worn out after 45,000km (28,000m).
I have now put about 25,000km (say 16,000m) on them and they are about 30% worn. I would estimate life at about 80,000km (50,000m) and there is currently no indication of degradation in performance to date.
Traction and lateral stability are excellent. They are excellent on dirt and particularly in mud where thay grip well and clear the cleats very cleanly. In Australia, we would typically use SUV's a little more off bitumen than in the US and I have been very impressed to date with off road performance. When mated to an excellent traction control system, as exists in the Kluger (Highlander) where it is interlinked to the ABS system, the ability to reach distant farmlands has exceeded a tractor with locking differentials under muddy conditions. However, this does not imply outright rock hopping ability which is beyond a Kluger's capacity.
On road performance is excellent although there is slightly greater road noise than the Toyos (the tread is harder) and this, coupled with the even tread block size, can lead to a very mild phasing effect on slight turns where the vibration from opposite tyres are rotating at marginally different frequencies, the harmonics shifting rhythmically in and out of phase. The effect is however imperceptible unless you search for it.
Performance under wet conditions on bitumen is superb, with excellent water clearance, certainly under torrential conditions beyond 110kmh (70mph) and superior traction on greasy roads.
They seem particularly well suited to the Kluger's stabilty control and braking profiles, markedly reducing the tell tales for loss of lateral stability.
I would strongly recommend them, but you should think about your own usage. This is an on/off road tyre, biased toward on-road performance. If your usage is purely on-road, a different tyre may be more suitable.
Cheers
Graham
I'm hoping the stock Toyo tires are good for snow but out of curiosity I started looking to see what might be available in 245/55x19. Next to nothing!!
I'm wondering what alternate wheels/tires I might get that would open up my options. Anyone given it any thought or have any ideas? TIA
Thank you
1. 17" Toyota rims are $1700 a set, and Toyota dealers do not stock replacement tires. So if you have a destroyed tire you will wait wherever you happen to be until they get one shipped in!
2. Aftermarket rims are $175-$200 each
3. 19" tires are only made by Bridgestone both types OEM quality(one soft rubber for snow)and really hyproplane and don't last(20K miles).
4. I think Toyo(or some Japan mfgr.) makes a good 19" tire that fit's but they are $300 each!
5. when you put on new rims(17" rims will not fit must use 18" to get tire selection) and tires, Toyota will not reset the "computer" to make the antiskid system work correctly. "It can't be done" is what I was told. Thus all the mpg and other calculations will be off. As well as the VSV system will not work.
6. Since you change out of OEM rims and tires Toyota will not honor the free front end alignment, anytime within one year. Which they use as a selling pitch.
I am still happy I changed the tires and rims out and have Goodyear Forturas on it now. At least I don't slide through the puddles anymore. But watch out if you want anything from Toyota.
Who told you that the computer had to be reset to make antiskid and VSV work? When I have time and get a few more miles on my HL, I'll be doing this change so I'm curious.
BTW - there are or were some steel 17" rims on ebay -- new Toyota steel rims for $55 ea w/$15 shippng. Plenty of alloy 17" rim choices at less than $175 ea as well.
I have an appointment on Thursday to get the tires replaced at my expense but would like any feedback on how I could approach this situation.
I don't know much about what the tolerance is for putting different size tires on, but I am not 100% sure that the tires you have will be a problem. I have an AWD with 17 inchwheels and 225/65-17 tires. I thought I read somewhere on these forums that a 225/70-17 would work okay too, but I may be wrong. Maybe Toyota could let you know if that 1/2 inch is going to be a problem. It is a shame to spend the money if you don't have too.
Although I don't think much of the BF Goodrich Long Trail tires based on comparisons at Consumers Union and Tire rack I'm going to keep them on and see how they perform. I highly suggest Tire rack for anyone who wants to get educated on tire info.The 75 is not only taller but also has .2" narrower section (tread) width. This could result in less rolling resistance to assist mpg on the highway. I do wonder if the taller tire will corner more poorly though? I can hear the tire noise if I corner more aggressively than normal and see the outside edge of the front tires being scuffed.
Thanks for the reply.
A bit confusing isn't it.
Open the rear hatch and lift the lid over the tool tray. Toward the right hand side of the tray is a circular cover about two inches in diameter Lift this cover up and you will find a five sided bolt head. In the tool tray is a five sided socket with a loop fitting on its top. There will also be a very thin offset tool which is supposed to slot into this socket. The five sided bolt head is mounted to a long scew that lowers a tray, holding the spare wheel.
Great mysteries of life number 43- Why a five sided security bolt given that the lowering mechanism is inside a locked luggage compartment?
Cheers
Graham
I am looking for fair weather tires, for Hwy use only with comfort and noise as the priority. Do any of you have info, or use Kumo Solus KH16 or Goodyear Assurance ComfortTred tires?
What do you think of them, and do you like them?
Thanks,
Mike
Dealer gave ballpark figure of $600 for a set of new tires (installed) comparable to the Bridgestones (presumably rated 50K or 60K). Are there better tires for the same price or less? I have had good luck with Yokahamas on other vehicles and might consider the Geolanders, but I don't want to reduce mpg.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
It is not certain, but I think it came with a defect. I did not notice it until this past week. I have had the Highlander for almost a month. I have not run over anything that sharp that I'm aware of, so the dealer agreed to order a new one at no cost.
Others have told me that Toyo Tires are not very good. I wish they had put Mich. tires on the new Highlanders.
Which Bridgestones specifically lasted only 18K for you? Just wondering if I got lucky with the Duelers that came on the vehicle in 2004, or if it's generally considered to be a good tire....
I suspect I will never get the kind of mileage you got out of your tires due to the AWD. Good luck with your next set. I love the Highlander. Never owned a better car.
The Bridgstone Duelers btw are available at the independent shop I used. Found out they actually are rated at 60,000 miles. So my 51,000 isn't anything spectacular. Getting only 18,000 from them would indicate a problem either with the tires or with something else that affected tread life.
I went into the shop thinking about the Michelins mentioned by several in this forum, but decided that the ride would be too different (those are rated heavy truck & SUV). I thought about the Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tread, but the tire shop didn't think they would provide the bite I was seeking on wet pavement. If you have 4WD they likely would be a good choice and would provide a very nice ride like a typical upper-end passenger car. My Geolandars actually are rated 'light truck.'
After a week I like the ride. It may be a bit firmer than the Bridgestones, but it's hard to compare worn tires with new ones. The Geolandars definitely provide more bite on wet pavement than the Bridgestones ever did, even when they were new. They also seem to have more capability on snowy slush, but it's an all-weather tire and in my case on a FWD vehicle so it won't perform like a snow tire.
Decreased fuel efficiency would not make me happy, so I'll let people know what I find in another few weeks.