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Guilt aside, what I have pretty much gone to is Ford trucks and SUVs, and Toyota cars....seems to serve me the best. Just leased a new Explorer for my wife, and LOVE the car much more than I thought I would. I have a work fleet of 7 cars, 4 Escapes, 1 Toyota Camry and 2 Chryslers. All doing pretty well, the Fords and Toyota are the best though. 2 of them are Hybrids. The Ford Hybrid system is the best by far. The Toyota Hybrid is slow, slow, slow and the Ford actually gets better mileage than the Toyota car.
Fact is, most cars on the road today are pretty good. Buy what you like, Hyundai has the best warranty, check Consumer Reports for weaknesses, and watch the 3 year old study JD Power does, and hope for the best. Stay away from Volkswagen, they are universally rated very poorly. :lemon: Best of luck!
Toyota, after several attempts at fixing the flaw, finally settled on DBW(RX330) as a final fix. Prevent the engine from rising in torque until a re-acceleration downshift could be accomplished/completed.
The suggestion of opting for AWD, F/awd, is a non-starter.
The use of the brakes for traction control on FWD provides a serious level of safety but with a TON of stress on the driveline components with both engine drive and braking engaged simultaneously. Basically the reason the engine is also INSTANTLY dethrottled simultaneous with braking actuation.
It is very well know that have both front and rear drives engaged simultaneously on tractive surfaces is detrimental to driveline component life cycles. While always of relatively short duration, front AND rear drives only used under low speed acceleration, in the long term that always adds up to premature driveline component failure.
So adding F/awd, and the associated inadvertent additional driveline stress, to an already flawed transaxle design only exacerbates the failure rate. Look at the transaxle failure rate for early F/awd RX300, the F/awd version of the Escape/Mariner, and the entire life period of the MDX as examples.
For myself I would be initially engaging
My practice in that case, more often practice, is to disallow the engagement of OD.
My guess is that one of the clutches involved in the highest non-OD gear selection is marginal and begins slipping with a sudden application and simultaneous need for reasonable high torque transfer.
At -40 the volume might be unusually low, once the clutch "pistons" are filled with ATF there's not enough left in the sump.
For quite a number of years now factory fill levels, ATF fill, have been "just enough". Extreme cold may not have been in the plans. Warm up idle for a few minutes before driving..?
I thought the noticeable shifting was "normal" and not objectionable to me
About 6 weeks into my relationship with this vehicle, the tranny started shifting a lot harder :confuse: then:..... it started slipping :surprise: I thought I got ripped off :mad: After mulling it over; I gave the dealer the benefit of the doubt because they deal with such large volumes and the fact that these problems are apparently so common; the sales person may not have known the harsh shifts were not "normal".
After some research: I discovered the drive-line is still covered for 5 years or 60K miles regardless of the chain of custody.
I took the vehicle to a reputable Ford dealer where they discovered a certain, internal part had failed. They ordered the part, however: the part was not in stock and they had no idea of when they would get more. The dealer contacted some higher-ups at Ford and arraigned to have a NEW complete tranny shipped from the factory!
I now have a brand new tranny in my '08 Escape.
It appears that heat is the main culprit in these early failures, so: my new tranny is getting a new cooler to help extend it's life span.
I don't know if luck or perseverance is why I got a new tranny, FREE OF CHARGE; but I have to give Ford Motor Company, and a great dealership, a lot of credit and appreciation for their efforts in addressing and fixing my '08 Escape.
Driving this appealing vehicle is a much better experience now that it shifts more like a Lincoln than a truck!!!
Has anyone had this issue and know what it is? I had all the obvious like cv, drive shafts checked and my mechanic told me everything was good and tight!
But I doubt that they'll do anything to extend the warranty since you have a 5/60 drivetrain warranty. What I would do is keep track of your receipts and your complaints and take it to the dealer for service until it does run out of warranty. Then if you have more problems with it, maybe you can get Ford to cover it.
The Secret Warranty - Understanding After Warranty Assistance
If it fails out of warranty and Ford won't cover it, your receipts and complaints may help if you go to small claims or your local consumer protection agency for some sort of implied warranty claim.
But now we have this new full fuel cut technique to extend FE, engine FULLY starved of fuel during coastdown periods. If the gas pedal, even in CC, reaches the point of being fully released. At that point the transaxle will begin to be downshifted to keep the engine turning over above stall RPM.
Fraught with peril in a FWD or F/awd IMMHO.
everything else falls into the catorgory of you and your dealer aren't comunicating properly
so many crybabies- so few of ducumented cases where the dealer you bought your new vehicle from can't or won't fix your suspected defects to the point it is a defect in manufacturing- meaning- a factual documented case where you have one that doesn't perform/is bad/ isn't like what is manufactured
I was researching the 2009 Mercury Mariner, as my mother was looking to purchase a used one, and nearly did yesterday. That came to a complete halt when I came across a post on fordforumsonline.com re: 2009 - 2010 Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner + Fusion etc Customer Satisfaction Program 10b15-r10b15-1.pdf. In short Ford will reprogram the tranny and replace all parts includng clutch and anything else the tranny caused problems for.
Entire link below:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CGAQ- FjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fordforumsonline.com%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Fford-esca- pe%2F354-customer-satisfaction-program-10b15-r10b15-1-.pdf&ei=buHJUMGCJMfeiAL5nI- CgAg&usg=AFQjCNFAQyRncbhsgdef08vnksI-gA61oA&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.cGE
The dealership that I sent this too said they came up with a blank page and couldn't get to it. Hope you have better luck. I also hope this info is not reaching you too late.
Rosemary9
thanks for any help you can give.....
Also the o/d light will start flashing once i get upto 50mph.
And no i'm not getting any transmission codes.
Not sure of other states, but for accuracy, the Lemon Law in California only applies if you bought the car new, and within one year you had the vehicle in three times for the same problem, or the car was out of service for 30 days. It does not apply after that first year, or with a used car.
i have a problem with my mariner lincoln 2010 same you...
fixed problem you ?
thank for you help!!!!
Sorry for the short notice here.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Drove two different Escape SE's this week and one was great while the other was lousy. Think both had the larger 2.5 engine but the first was super loud and the second was pretty quiet though both had substantial road noise at speed...those mirrors are probably to blame, not too aerodynamic at all. The 2nd felt much more comfortable but it did have the nicer leather seats...come to think of it, the 2nd one could've been an SEL model to be honest with ya. Still glad I didn't buy the SE with the 1.6 turbo engine last month...nice enough vehicle but a bit too large for me and hated the engine and after reading the consumer reviews, was very glad. They did try to get me to come back though, mighty hard, but I had already bought my current vehicle by that time. I don't buy often and take my prep time but when I am ready to pull the trigger...I am ready! And I usually only give ya one try to get me to open my wallet so any sales person needs to do an outstanding job or I just walk. And it's always nice to be in the position where one doesn't really have to buy at that moment...and that's the point I was at, if it happened...great and if not...great also! Best way to purchase after one has done their due diligence and gathered all their information. We all should make an informed decision since these kind of large purchases are kept for awhile...usually. For some silly reason though, my wife thinks my new 2014 Tuscon will be gone within a short number of years for some reason. I love it so far except the low gas mileage but this should improve with more miles on the clock...hopefully!
_The Sandman _
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
And before folks start jumping on me here, I know all manufacturer's have issues but this one is a pretty serious one and can be a safety hazard when a vehicle will not accelerate properly to merge into traffic or just get up and go. Our couple of Lincoln's were nice vehicles, our 1966 and 1972, very nice vehicles which we loved. Our 1972 Ford Torino Sport was a problem from day 1 with the high compression engine...who buys a new car and it has to be towed back to the dealership not even 5 miles away? An issue from day 1 that was never truly resolved by Ford, they just basically threw up their hands and said "too bad" once the warranty was up. They sure did try to fix things before then but at 36001 on the clock, they basically said " [non-permissible content removed]! Thus after that treatment, we never ever would spend a nickel in their stores. We were scarred for life and no other member of our family ever bought a Ford product after that, immediate family and cousins!
The Sandman :@
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)