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-Tony
- Alignment, front & rear. Mine was off and made the factory tires noisy.
- Cruise control. The thottle servo froze up and was replaced. Also, the switch on the steering wheel developed too much play front-to-back and would not engage regularly. I am replacing it also.
- Premature/excessive brake pad wear. Pads should last at least 60K.
That said, my Forester continues to delight me. I expect to keep it over 200K without major trouble.
John
Thks,
Jack
Here's the address:
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3295 El Camino Real # D
Santa Clara, CA 95051
(408) 363-8468
Remember, tinting places are a dime a dozen. Try calling around a couple places. I'm sure there even better ones out there.
Ken
Thanks,
Jack
I will try it next weekend since most of them are closed for Sunday.
Jack
As far as other plug in devices, I believe a radar detector would work without a problem also. Haven't tried one though.
-Brian
Kathy
This is what I thought in the begining. But the result is I have 3 different accessories burned on that outlet. 1 phone charger burned the fuse, 1 one outlet to 3 outlets adapter burned the fuse, 1 indoor light burned the LED and this one is gone!(All of them are working fine in my previous car!) This will NOT happens ALL THE TIMES but it's just happens all of the sudden. Is this thing only happens to me? If so, should I bring this problem to the dealership even though the manual already mention the front outlet shouldn't use anything except Subaru lighters? How come I never heard of any problem in other car but Subaru in using electrical accessories in the "lighter outlet"?
Is there any way to get the power from the original dual outlets in the L model? I am not a smoker and I don't mind to replace that "lighter outlet" with a "electrical outlet".
Rgds,
Jack
Jack
The Forester I ordered is finally at the dealer. (Woo-hoo!) I'm picking it up this Friday. Before I sign my life away for it, I'm planning to do a walk-around to look for any dings, paint flaws, panels mis-aligned. I'll also take it for a test drive to check for unusual behavior and/or noises.
Is there anything else I should look/listen for?
TIA,
-Dan
Take it at high speeds, low speeds, tight turns, bumps, you name it. Everything you are likely to encounter in regualr duty.
I've used my front charger for a cell phone (fine) and a notebook computer (not fine, it crashed when I started the ignition). So I guess some things are fine, others not.
Kathy: that price sounds fair. Just make it clear before you go that you want absolutely no surprises. No fees tacked on, no unwanted options, nothing that'll increase that price (undercoating, sealant, etc).
-juice
I own a 1999 Subaru Forester S that just had transmission work done on it at Norwood Subaru in MA. They have car covergae up to 45k miles, unfortunately my car has 49K miles on it and I had to pay $30 per day for 3 days while my car was being serviced, the tranny work was under warranty. I already tried Subaru of America, no go. Anyone have any other ideas?
Second Question: It was third gear and reverse that let go. Has anyone had similar problems at around 50K miles and what should I be looking for as I get closer to that 60,000 mile marker.
Thanks
If it happens again, ask the dealer for any old car off his used-car lot. They usually have something if you are flexible.
Shoot - if something ever breaks on mine, I'd PREFER to get an SVX or XT, something interesting like that, as a loaner.
-juice
We are rapidly approaching the 3000 mile mark with our '01 Forester S+. Any particular issues to be aware of as we get ready to take it in for service? Am also interested in everyone's thoughts concerning changing to synthetic oil. Don't plan to do it at this change, but possibly the next?
BTW, the car has and is running flawlessly, although gas mileage isn't quite what I had hoped for yet. Part (maybe most) of that is the style of driving my wife does as she runs from hospital to hospital here in Baltimore. Generally averaging 20.5 mpg in the first 3000 miles. Getting ready for a road trip soon, we plan to take the Forester and hope the trip will help mileage improve.
TIA for any thoughts re: synthetic oil.
Wait until 15k miles or so to go to synthetic. Seems pretty early to me. My mileage improved up until about that kind of mileage (about +2mpg), which tells me mine was still breaking in.
-juice
If you were local I would say lets make up a extension cord to fit that socket and plug in a load near the recommended load range. We would then measure the current flow on our cord and see if it`s solid or flux. If the current varies on a pure resistive load I would look for a damaged socket or bad wire connection. Best guess - not a mechanic.
Towing - I've only tried an empty 700 lb trailer to test my hitch. It's rated for 2000 lbs only if you have trailer brakes. Payload varies by model, up to 1040 lbs on the L 5 speed, so the people and gear ought to fit fine.
So the key is the camper. How heavy, and does it have brakes?
Unfortunately, none of the more fuel efficient mini-SUVs (RAV4 and CR-V) tow much either. In fact, their capacities are lower.
-juice
I hate to rain on Forester's parade and I know everyone here will have a million justifications / excuses but I just wanted to let people who are considering a Soob to hear another side of the story.
P.S. Yes, we left w/out taking a test drive. No one ever came out to see us and we were climbing around in their cars for a good 30 minutes.
I owned an 87 4Runner for about 5 years (the longest I've ever owned one vehicle to date) so I would certainly attest to it being a good truck (although I don't care for the new ones).
Good luck with your next vehicle.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The Highlander and 4Runner are nice, but not in the same price ball park, not even close. They appear to be fine choices, though.
-juice
Hey, no hard feelings. The Forester can't be everything to everyone. I think you hit the major issue on the head though -- you can't judge a vehicle without actually seeing one in person.
One thing does confuse me, however, is that why were you looking at a mini-SUV when rear passenger room was of a major concern. People who shop for Foresters open compare them to similar vehicles like the CR-V, RAV4 or even the Escape. In comparison to these alternatives, the Forester does shine in many aspects. The only way you'll know is by actually seeing and driving the alternatives.
Ken
After 1k miles, I slowly started working the motor up to 6k rpm, and now at 1650 miles the motor has really softened up nicely. The car is very quick, and total fun! First tank.. 27 mpg (highway miles under 4k rpm), haven't checked since. No mechanicals so far, the car is very tight, and the level of interior finish is great.
I do though have a soft, rattling noise that seems to be coming from the instrument cluster. It seems independent of the motor (does not change pitch with change in rpms), and only noticeable while idling. Any ideas as to the nature of the noise? I don't recall having heard it before, however I've been too busy zipping around to take note. Also, @ 3k I was thinking of going synthetic.. I've always used "natural" oil. Any thoughts there? Thx!
Sorry Joe (the Host), I can't help myself, it's just too darn tempting!!
Seems like the Highlander would be the perfect car, no? After all, it's a Camry in heels with a foot of extra space tacked on the end. And I seriously doubt the Forester carries more than a sedan WITH the seats up.
I didn't look at an Escape because I'm trying to Escape... crappy Ford cars, I didn't look at a Rav or CRV mainly because I heard so many people on this board gloating about how much bigger a Forester is. I DO need space but I also wanted something that would carry passengers, dogs, lumber, whatever but still be safe and drive well. Oh, yeah and not break like a crappy Ford (or Forester in this case) I wish I had driven it and I knew that was the one thing the people here would point to but it was really hard getting a "hello" out of the subaru dealer much less keys to one of their cars.
I didn't really want to flame Foresters or Subaru or their owners. I just wanted people who do research here to get a balanced perspective. Read the opinions on this board and then go out, drive the car, sit in it, jiggle things around, kick the tires and be HONEST with yourself about what the vehicle can and can't do.
HOWEVER - if the Highlander had been on the market, I would have also test driven it, and most likely, seriously considered it. Definitely more roomy, and really another size/price point in the market. I will test drive the HL for the fun of it even though it's fairly pricey and I'm not in the market.
So good luck in your research & purchase. I appreciate your honesty. If you do try a Forester (at another dealer!), let us know how the driving compares to the Highlander.
John
Carry on...:-)
Drew
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I did not get a chance to test-drive the Highlander yet. It looks nice (like Forester on steroids). We think of Highlander as possibly a good choice for my husband's next car, but I reserve all the opinions until we actually test it.
I should say that driving dynamics of the Forester are so good and it's so numble that after I owned it for 6 mo, every other SUV feels really clumsy. Since most of the time I commute alone in the car, back seat room is not an issue. Yet it holds a teenager plus baby pretty well when needed.
Try driving both the Highlander and the Forester, and let us know how they compare.
I remember reading on this & other sites about the funny sulfur smell. What is it and can it be fixed?
Do ABS normally travel closer to floor than regular brakes? Mine go to about 1 inch above floor.
My only point is that option for option, SUV for SUV the Forester beats the competition hands down. The Subaru dealership I bought my car from has called me repeatedly to make sure the car is okay and I still like it. They rolled out the red carpet for me when I brought it in for the first oil change. They even called me on my birthday last year to wish me a happy birthday. Not all Subaru dealerships are the same. When it comes to dealerships remember, Your mileage may vary.
Also, the over inflated EPA estimate for the Highlander 4 cylinder is 24mpg highway, while the Foresters is 27mpg. Even 3 to 5 mpg over the life of a car matters to me. Just my 2 cents worth on comparing these 2 cars.
The Forester will certainly hold more than a sedan, even with the seats up (remember the cargo area goes all the way to the roof).
Sorry to hear about your experience at the dealership but fail to see how that soured you on the vehicle itself. There are plenty of other dealerships out there that I'm sure will be more than happy to sell to you.
Bottom-line. If the Highlander better fits your individual needs and if you have the cash to pay for it, then you should certainly buy it. (After test driving it of course)
-Frank P.
Just a thought from a someone happy to see 30 mpg on my last fill-up when my previous Tauras' best was 27 mpg over the the same trip.
Tom: the pedal can be adjusted, but you may need new pads. The previous owners may have ridden the brakes. The break-in smell should be gone by 17k, though. Wash the undercarriage to get any salt mix from winter off.
Congrats pnptm. Glad we could help. Hang around and share impressions in a few weeks?
I think ít's a high complement that the Forester is being compared to the Highlander. We're talking about a $30k plus SUV, easy. Equip one like a $23k Forester S Premium and you're probably a good $10 grand over the Forester, yet we are arguing over which is better.
Thanks!
-juice
Jack- Glad to hear it was your phone charger causing the problems. That makes much more sense.
-Frank P.
Rgds,
Jack
I don't know about the NE, but around here in the San Francisco Bay Area, Foresters will go for $200-$300 over dealer invoice.
One way to check "market" prices is to go to carsdirect.com and look up their prices.
Ken
I haggled with the online dealer(claiming another site quoted me less) which is how I ended up with 150.
I ended up getting my subaru at colonial subaru in danbury- which was a good experience, I recommend.
I think these guys have a big overstock of the foresters.
Hope it helps
~L
On the end of a trip, as I was about to park, the engine light turned on and the car began to idle roughly. I reached my destination, turned off the car, and let it sit (I went about watching the Corrs play in Rockefeller Center). When I returned to the car and started it, the engine still idled VERY roughly. However, the car still seemed to be able to drive okay, but that did not last long. Less than 2 miles later, I would step on the gas and would get little or no response from the engine. In order to get moving forward, I had to pop the clutch. But, as I would depress the gas, the engine would rev to 3000 RPM and then the power would drop rapidly. I could not let the engine idle in neutral because the car would stall due to the rough idle (it was like the engine was wheezing).
Luckily, the dealership (Hillside Automall in Hillside, NJ), was on my way home and not too far from Hoboken where the car was parked. The car literally limped there (I *should* have called Subaru Roadside Assistance). A mechanic at the dealership took a look at my car with the diagnostic computer and got the code "301", interpreting that as misfires in Pistons 1 and 3. This was at about 1950 miles.
He blamed the problem on bad gasoline (I used regular, like I always use and as the owner's manual states) which clogged the injectors. He poured a canister of dry gas chemical into the tank and revved the engine, which seemed to clear up the problem. He said that if I continue to have problems, bring the car back. I was able to drive the car home, and it seemed to be fine. The tank was filled about 1/8 with the old regular gas, so I proceeded to fill the tank with mid grade gas from a station on the way home.
On Tuesday night, I began to notice a slight rough idle, a slight power loss, and the engine light turned on again. Sensing a return of the problem, I made an appointment for Thursday morning at Hillside for service. But, just my luck, it drives fine Thursday morning and the engine light turns off. The dealership looks at it, says there's nothing wrong with the car -- but I insist they do something about it and they order new injectors for the car. They continue to tell me the car is fine to drive home, which I did, and it did handle fine. The car now had 2011 miles.
HOWEVER, on Thursday night, less than 12 hours after I left the dealer with the "good-to-go", the problem returned with a vengeance pulling into my driveway (2041 miles). I had the car towed Friday morning (this morning) by Subaru to Hillside, as I deemed the car way too unsafe to try to drive to the dealer. The response of Road Side Assistance and the actual tow truck driver itself was quite fast (45 minutes, compared to a 5 hour experience I had once with AAA), and the towing experience was actually really pleasant (good conversation with the mechanic while driving to the dealer). I wish that my experience with the dealer was only so pleasant.
They were extremely resistant to giving me a loaner car, and it took my insisting to speak to a manager and arguing I should NOT be having any of these problems with a car that is not even 60 days old and hasn't even had its first oil change. I was NOT going to pay for a rental. I got the loaner rental for free: a lovely Geo Metro (well, it WAS free).
I am now waiting for a response from the dealership, what they find, and what they fix. Luckily, everything is covered under warantee (that first 90 days). I am praying that I did not receive a lemon -- I waited for this car (it was ordered) for nearly three months, longer than I've even HAD the car. I do not believe it was bad gas, as my Dad had filled our van with regular gas from the same station the same day I filled my Forester, a week before St. Patrick's day. I am very disapointed in the mechanical problems I am having, after reading so much about reliability -- especially since I've only put 2000 and-some-change miles on the car.
I must admit, I still do love the car and how it drives as well as its feature content. I also must commend Subaru for the excellent response with their roadside assistance and the mechanic/tow company they chose in Edison (DeFalco's towing?). However, this has done some serious tarnishing on my view of the Forester as well as the decent purchasing experience I had with the dealership (Hillside Automall).
Needless to say, I will be writing Hillside management and the operations center in Cherry Hill, NJ.
I will post the resolution of my mechanical problems hopefully later this week.
--Mac
PS. I recall someone in this group had a similar problem in an automatic where she would lose power while depressing the gas. Did they ever post a resolution of the problem and the root cause?
It sounds like you are having the very same problem I had with my '01 Forester. No power on gas, very rough idle, backfiring, etc. I posted about it a few weeks ago (#775). The dealer replaced a bad fuel injector and a faulty fuel air sensor (actually the 2nd time the oxygen sensor has been replaced). Since then my Forester has been running fine.
Sounds like I had better luck with my dealer service than you however (Carr Subaru in Portland, OR). They were pretty sympathetic and gave me a rental car with no hassle.
I have a lot less confidence in my Forester. I'm seriously thinking about getting rid of it but I'm not so sure about what I would replace it with.
cam
I am sorry to hear others are experiencing trouble with their soobies. I have owned many new cars/trucks in my lifetime, and let me assure you there is no such thing as a perfect car. My other fun car for now is a BMW 330ci and it is by no means totally "ultimate". For the money, I have not come across a better value, or level of finish than the Forester not to mention the fun factor of a 5 speed... rally, rally!