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Chrysler Pacifica Oil Problems

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  • benniegirlbenniegirl Member Posts: 5
    When we turned the car in at end of lease it was significantly over the mileage limit. We informed Chrysler that we would deduct out the cost of the engine from the the mileage due and went to court to make it happen. Using documentation from this forum helped alot and I am happy to say that we were able to do just that. The Pacifica is officially history!
  • sarithasaritha Member Posts: 2
    This oil problem is bad with my chrysler. The dealer denies it but after my looking at my car and these blogs i know otherwise. I will never buy a chrysler again. Shame on the company.
  • mypacisapiecemypacisapiece Member Posts: 1
    Well everyone I am new to this forum however I am so happy to hear that there are other people going through the exact same thing that I just recently found out about my 2005 pac. My engine is gone and now the extended warranty will not cover anything because they need oil change receipts. Well the thing is the car has been maintained but family members have done the oil changes for us as they are mechanically inclined and have their own garage. The funny thing is the oil light has never come on. I dont understand how Chrysler can look the other way when so many people are having the same issue. Anyway I saw in previous blogs that a small class action lawsuit is a possibility. If Im not to late I would love to be a part of that,. They deserve everything that they get for the crap they have put people through. I have 3 small children and that is our only family car and now we are stuck putting a new engine in it. Just what I have the money for. Keep me posted on anything anyone hears that might be a help to me and my family. Thanks!!!!
  • malvivmalviv Member Posts: 1
    I too am now in this boat. After purchasing a 06 AWD Touring, I thought I was going to be thrilled with my Pacifica. I thought that I had researched the vehicle by checking into customer satisfaction on them. When I see things like:

    http://www.edmunds.com/chrysler/pacifica/2006/consumerreview.html
    Which has a consumer overall rating of 8.3...

    http://autos.aol.com/cars-Chrysler-Pacifica-2006/reliability/
    Which has an average overall rating...

    http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Reliability.aspx?year=2006&make=Chrysler&model- =Pacifica
    Which has a high rating by users and msn autos...

    I feel that my research was good. I would urge all of you dissatisfied owners to go out to these sites and voice your ratings. Someone searching for a used car probably doesn't go Googling for "X" car engine oil issues.

    Also, if anyone hears or starts such a lawsuit as talked about, I would truly be interested. I heard a lot of groaning and complaining but haven't heard about much action.
  • mnjeffmnjeff Member Posts: 7
    Congratulations on your victory in court. Did Chrysler actually admit to fault over the oil issues? If so, it might help others of us who are battling them over this same issue get some resolution. Do you have any documentation you could share that shows Chrysler accepting blame?

    Glad to hear you are free of your Pacificia.
  • quickdraw54quickdraw54 Member Posts: 2
    Well, after a few trips about 300 miles or so, noticed my engine running rough. No dummy lights came on, I change oil about every 3,000 miles. Went for a change and found I had almost no oil in my AWD '05 Pacifica touring model. They flushed engine, put a protective additive in ( the kid who did it, was so nice and worried about my engine running with no oil) and they actually showed me my dipstick with a full 5.5. qts in it. I'm going back to them from now on. Note: I have about 62,000 miles on the care now.

    As I drove away from my last oil change (done properly) I was furious thinking that the guys who did other oil change guys must have forgot the oil. So, I go on a trip about 1600 miles and get back home less than 30 days after this last oil change (and I saw the dip stick so I know it was full) and flush. Find out I'm MORE THAN 3 QTS LOW.
    No oil light warning, nothing. So took it to dealer today to see what is up. :mad:

    After reading all your complaints about Chrysler knowing about this issue and all the engines being replaced. I'm worried...I drive my disabled daughter around in this car and not feeling so safe anymore. No one does a good and fair job anymore... Seems like almost every business is set up to rip us all off and get away with it. Tired of businesses whining about taxes and regulations. Screw business, help consumers!
  • vendor_neutralvendor_neutral Member Posts: 2
    I have the same issue. I spoke to a mechanic (my brother); he advised me to look at the PCV valve. The PCV valve allows the crank case pressure to be vented out of the engine; the venting carries gasses with it so as part of emission standards those gasses are sent back into the engine to be burned. The trick is not to pull the misted oil in the valve covers into the engine where it would be burned off. This is where the PCV valve comes in. I replaced mine today; I will let you know if this works. I have a 2005 with a 3.5 liter. If this does not work or partially work; I am going to plug the induction hole in the intake manifold and let the PCV hose vent to one side. If this solves the issue than I will leave it that way. I also noticed excessive soot in my tail pipe adding credence to burning oil. I wonder if I have shortened the life of my catalytic converter.
  • quickdraw54quickdraw54 Member Posts: 2
    Ty for the post about the PCV valve. Will have to have someone check that one as well.. I got the usual response from my dealership that we have to do at least 3 oil consumption tests before Chrysler will ok the engine to be broken down to find the cause. I expressed concern since my oil dummy light hasn't come on, twice, in the past when the oil was excessively low. No comment from the dealership. I will never buy another Chrysler product again, and will try to sell this car, if I have to, and buy foreign ALWAYS after this. So much for American products. THEY SUCK>>>>>>>>>
  • 4milligans4milligans Member Posts: 1
    I can't believe the number of people complaining about the same problem. The garage I have my 07 Pacifica serviced at, has lost it's records due to computer problems. Dealer just estimated $7400 to repair / replace the engine! Never had a check engine or oil pressure light come one. Can't wait to tell my girls tonight that we have to cancel our trip to Disney World this December! Please someone tell me that there's a chance my extended warranty will cover some of the costs without service records :(
  • benniegirlbenniegirl Member Posts: 5
    My oil light or check engine light never came on as well. I returned the leased car and settled with Chrysler but I still am not happy. I would welcome a class action lawsuit!
  • qpowerqpower Member Posts: 34
    Yes, you will have shortened the Cat lifespan. All this carbon goes thru the cat, which is why I sold the car back to the dealer after 45K miles and got a nice older model 3.8L push rod engine in the Town and Country van! My wife misses some of the features inherent in a sedan body, but I do not miss the oil consumption dilemma, not one bit!
  • qpowerqpower Member Posts: 34
    Nope, no chance!

    And for the fellow who thought that 3 oil consumption tests would matter, I wasted my time on several tests all showing a quart of Mobil 1 used per thousand miles, only to have the dealer show me a crusty, old ripped piece of paper stating that the oil consumption needed to be more than 1 qt per 750 miles or less to be unusual!! Come on, that's absurb! I have any number of vehicles in my life that consume no more than a qt every three thousand miles and more. I have a Touareg which goes 8k miles between Mobil one oil changes and uses less than one quart in that much time.

    Where is the legal mind when you need one?
  • sprocketnjsprocketnj Member Posts: 1
    2005 Pacifica with 53K miles. DEAD ENGINE?!?!

    I am shocked to find so many people with this issue. I just took my car in for a check up. I heard some engine knocking / tapping and now I'm told my engine is totaled.

    I never had an issue with oil before and the mechanic told me there was only a half-quart of oil left in the car and all the oil was burned. He never saw anything like it before.

    The oil light never came on, so how should we know when the oil runs low?

    I'm sure Chrysler will be no help on this matter.

    Anyone have any suggestions on how to fight for the Powertrain warranty? :sick:
  • jtg61jtg61 Member Posts: 43
    Luckily you have a 2005 which came with a 7/70 powertrain warranty that is transferable even if you are not the original owner. This is the only year I am aware of where Chrysler offered this. Hopefully you have documentation for oil changes and scheduled maintenance. I would fight Chrysler hard to honor your powertrain warranty. Good luck!
  • pdmendezpdmendez Member Posts: 1
    :mad:

    Had my oil changed and the guy told me the pan threads were stripped. Inopportunely it could have happed at any one of the places I took my car to. This still sounds like an issue across the board for others. A new pan will cost $800. From the other posts I see that people have it on back order. I plan to go to a junk yard.... should be plenty there from this form list. :)
  • jft26jft26 Member Posts: 35
    I have a 2006 Pacifica Touring AWD with 41K miles. Lately, occasionally when I start the car up after it sits for a while I see a puff of white smoke coming from the tail pipe. There is nothing evident after the initial start. I have not noticed oil consumption between my 3K mile oil changes. Anyone experiencing the same? Any ideas/insight? Not sure what is causing this issue and if it indicates a serious problem. Thanks for your feedback.
  • alkatalkat Member Posts: 2
    I have an 07 with a lifetime powertrain warrenty but it gives me no peace of mind. I have 42K and have to add oil several times in between changes.
  • samb5samb5 Member Posts: 1
    I didnt get a chance to read all of the post on here but I realized a couple months ago that there was a huge oil issue with my 04 Pacifica....it just goes through oil way to fast and it even runs a little louder when it is low...and dumby me has no warrenty so I hope nothing goes wrong with the engine. What is everyone thinking the problem is? Also a couple days ago my Fuel needle started bouncing up and down and it will say low fuel then go back to where it was then back down to low fuel again....Anyone heard of this problem?
  • jtg61jtg61 Member Posts: 43
    I have never heard of this oil consumption problem with the 4.0L engine, only the 3.5L engine. This is worrisome.
  • vendor_neutralvendor_neutral Member Posts: 2
    So I ran for a time with the PCV valve vented over the side. This did not help the oil consumption issue. It did cause this separate issue: when I opened the oil cap to add oil, I noticed emulsified oil accumulated around the oil fill opening. I surmise that the hose over the side was pulling excessive moisture from the outside air and it was mixing with the oil mist - not good.

    I put the hose back to original config and the issue went away.

    As to the oil consumption: I use a measuring cup and add exactly pint at a time when I hit a certain spot on the dipstick. I log the mileage and it looks like I burn a quart roughly every 1200 miles. Chrysler calls a quart every 800 acceptable usage. For most people - if you don't do your own oil change and you don't frequently check the level AND the person who does your oil does not let you know - you wouldn't know that your a quart low.

    When I changed oil on every other car I have owned - I never noticed a low level on a 3400 mile change interval.
  • eroberts05eroberts05 Member Posts: 8
    Still driving my '04. Still going through the oil about a quart every 800 to 1000 miles. Bought it used because it was pretty far up on the list of 'safe' cars. I like the car, but hate the problems. Mine has a problem with the check engine light also. As far as the gas gage, I know mine doesn't work right if the car is not parked on level ground. Imagine that! :confuse:
  • dondeversdondevers Member Posts: 1
    When I went for a oil change the manager advised me to keep a eye on the oil level on my 3.5 Pacifica engine. He stated that this engine is a oil guzzler. There was no way getting around it. No oil leaks or stripped lugs on the pan, just eats oil. Usually I check my oil half way through before getting an oil change or if I am planning a long ride, like over 2 hours in one direction. This seems to have solved my problems of engine knocks or even having low oil prior to returning for a change. I also change my oil every 5000 without any problems. I have had my Pacifica since 2004 and have logged in over 80000 miles without any engine problems. Plugs and a K&N Air Filter seems to do the trick also. Recently my alternator failed and that was replaced by myself for 160. bucks for a rebuilt.
  • tampapwjtampapwj Member Posts: 1
    We have a 2004 Pacifica 3.5L that overheated without an engine warning light or any other warning indicator activating. The first indication after knocking sound was radiator overheating because of air in the cooling system. Chrysler bled the air and it continued to overheat periodically.

    It turns out the problem was oil pump probably caused by clogging which appearently is common with this engine. Is there any class action against Chrysler or could anyone recommend a good/reasonable attorney specializing in this area of law?
  • tasomatasoma Member Posts: 2
    I have the same 2004 Pacifica and have 160k miles on it. It has been consuming oil it seems like forever. Due to a slow oil leak, I am being told that the oil pan needs to be replaced and I am not sure I want to spend the $ to fix it. Currently, the gas needle is bouncing up and down. Someone told me that that a bigger drain plug may stop the slow leak.
  • atlantarideratlantarider Member Posts: 1
    I've had my 2004 since 2005 originally with about 25,000k. Actually it was for my wife and we've had very very little problems out of it. We now have over 120,000miles on it.
    Recently I began to drive it (sold my car-down to one family vehicle now) and noticed the massive amount of oil consumption, from 1 to 2 quarts every 3000miles.
    I never noticed it before, but that is because I/we never opened the hood, always took it to get serviced like clockwork over the years at the GM Dealer. Now post recession, and income totally different, began to check these things out myself.
    It is possible car was always consuming oil for years, but we never noticed because we never looked under the hood.
    Now we are at over 120,000miles and still going strong.
    From the looks of these posts, oil consumption in excess compared to other vehicles is normal. Just keep it at the normal level by adding a quart.
  • qpowerqpower Member Posts: 34
    edited April 2011
    It's a little more complicated than that...

    You need to understand what's really going on here. I sold out of my Pacifica for this reason.

    The combustion chamber is burning oil at an accelerated rate and amount compared to the default industry standard today. Everything is made to more exacting tolerance than years past, so the tolerance for excess carbon going through the combustion chamber and into the catalytic converter is a set amount well below what you are now producing. There is a disparity between the engineered values and the actual ones we experience. If Chrysler exposed itself to what is really going on here, it would potentially add up to many hundreds of millions of dollars. Mercedes co-developed this car and engine and they experienced the same types of excess oil consumption and have also had to account for this to owners, who are not as easily shunted aside.

    Eventually, you are going to plug up the catalytic converter with carbon, at the very least, if not have other powertrain wear issues. Plan to sell off this vehicle before it is a steaming pile of junk... I have told you so!

    The amounts of maintenance that will begin to be apparent even if you do keep the oil level up is dramatically higher for this situation than another engine which is tighter and uses less than a quart per oil change (3500-5000 on dino oil/6000-7500 on synthetic).

    You simply do not have the money to fix what is ailing this series of motors. Chrysler is not admitting to their complicity and therefore not crafting a proper solution. Getting a ring job done may not be the end of the problem!

    Good luck,

    I now drive a Kia Sorento (w/a 3.5 V6!) made in Georgia!
  • madmama30madmama30 Member Posts: 1
    It was very reassuring; as sad as they that may sound; that I was not alone with this issue. I took our 2007 Pacifica in 2 days ago because of smoke billowing from the exhaust pipes. The car had been driving perfectly fine the previous day. There were no warning signs whatsoever that anything was out of the ordinary, no engine lights, nothing. We regularly have the car maintenenced and actually just had the oil changed last month. Yet when I got the car to the dealership, the oil was very low and they called me to let me know that "somehow" oil was getting into the combustion chamber and burning the oil which was causing the smoke to billow from the exhaust pipes. They informed me that the engine would need taken apart piece by piece to pinpoint the exact problem, worse case scenario being the engine needing replaced which would cost me around $5,000. OUch. The car only has 45,000 miles on it and they are wanting me to pay for all of this and want to replace my engine with one that has 51,000 on it. What???? My dealer recomended that I contact Chrysler to see if they could help out with the issue at all seeings how we are Just outside the manufacturer's warranty. Thus far Chrysler is giving me the run-around and the case manager assigned to me seems to be avoiding me. This is our 3rd Chrysler and needless to say, there will be no more for us!!!
  • jeffro2333jeffro2333 Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    I own a 2006 Pacifica touring with the oil issues being described. I have 88,000 miles on it now and I am about a quart down every 1000 miles and getting worse. I've been dealing with this issue on a consistent basis for about a year. Took the car to dealer at the time we noticed and they said it was normal though anyone other than Chrysler said it was not. That said, I got fed up and emailed Bob Kidder, the CEO, about a month and a half ago asking for help and stating my issue. I didn't have much expectation but felt the need to be heard. 3 weeks go by and no response so I emailed a follow up and sure enough responses were happening. I got a call from a top care specialist at headquarters in Detroit, who said an engineer will come and look at the issue. That said, a day goes by and a district manager offers me 20 free oil changes, in which I balked at that fix and quite frankly was insulted. That prompted me to email Mr Kidder back with this blog link and call the contact at headquarters to voice my frustration. It was then, things got real interesting. I get a call the next day from the same district manager that offered the oil change stating they now want to look at the car and will do so with a Chrysler engineer. That same day, the top care specialist called me to state the same and that they have had numerous conference calls and meetings on this to determine how they wanted to handle my issue. I thought that whatever I have said clearly has stirred the pot as she stated a lot of eyes up in Detroit are on my issue.

    That said, the car was brought in and a series of tests were completed on the car with the said engineer and the service folks. They said the results of the tests were normal but they gave me an oil change, marked the dipstick, and sealed the oil cap and said come back in 1,000 miles.

    Today was that 1,000 miles and they show me being down a half quart. The service people said they have called Detroit asking for next steps and are awaiting a response. Until then, they said I could pick up the car today though they went through the process of getting us a rental. Seems weird and none of the service people would comment on the results.

    I know many people have the same issues I'm experiencing and I would hope you would keep an eye on my developments as I have caused quite a stir up North. Depending on the outcome, there may be a need to look into a class action opportunity as consumers of this car, it is not right to have to turn in a car with a major defect that the company is unwilling to address. BTW, I'm located in Columbus, Ohio and have been taking the car to Byers Chrysler.
  • rrgrenierrrgrenier Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2008 Nitro R/T with a 4.0L engine. It consumes 1.5 to 2 litres of oil every 5000km. Dodge has us completing an oil consumption report but claims this is normal. Normal from 45,000km on? I have never had this issue with any of my previous vehicles. Anyone else?
  • emagnusonemagnuson Member Posts: 1
    I have the same issues. First I was told the people who did my previous oil change did not put oil in it. Shortly after I was told I needed a new oil pan b/c the screws were stripped. Thank god Hogan Tire in Woburn, MA was willing to solder a new screw hole and patch up the bad one otherwise I would have been out $800 too! The oil light has never gone out for me. I did hear that "click click" noise of despair. Now I check it pretty frequently, always finding it low.
  • wcneubertwcneubert Member Posts: 1
    I live in wisconsin and own a 2004 pacifica. I actualy havent been able to drive my car since the middle of february. I had the oil pump go out on me, and there are no 2004 pacifica oil pumps in the usa or canida. I caled chrysler and talked to some one who just put me on a waitting list for the part. I called back to check on how its looking a week ago and as far as I can tell is that chrysler has no plans on making a replacement part for the 2004 pacifica. They even told me streight out that there is NO start production date set on the oil pumps, but they will get ahold of me if they find a used one. I also tryed to talk to several lawers and no one seems to want to go up against chrysler, they all told me to wait because there is nothing that can be done. Im getting pissed now that Im still making payments on a car that I havent driven in 5 months paying insurance on a car that doesnt move and paying $100.00 a week to use a friends car who wants it back very soon, so I will probly loose my job as well. :mad:
  • gregm48gregm48 Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2007 model Pacifica, manufactured in 11/06. Currently at apprx 50,000 miles it has been consuming 1 quart of oil about every 800 miles. The auto dealer has performed checks every thousand miles for 3000 miles and has performed an oil consumption test the last several months. The oil consumption test indicates that the vehicle is consuming 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles. Chrysler has responded that the manufacturer specification indicate that 1 quart every 1000 miles is acceptable. The dealership says their outside shop is going to try to find the source of the problem.
  • jtg61jtg61 Member Posts: 43
    I am disheartened to hear that the oil consumption problem extends to the 4.0L in the 2007-08 Pacifica's as well. It is my understanding that the 4.0L engine is basically the same 3.5L engine with a longer stroke. With 6 quarts of oil, you would think that even with 1 quart of oil consumption per month, you would still have 3 quarts at the next 3,000 oil change. It should never run dry with regular service.
  • alkatalkat Member Posts: 2
    I am also experiencing the same oil issue. What it gets better! I have 50,071 miles on my 2007 and while on my why home from work on Monday evening my check engine light came on. According to the initial dignostic test there is a system fault in the EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) sensor. I can not get over that Chrysler is not issueing recalls. Lesson learned I will never purchase another Chrysler.
  • dcgnlmgdcgnlmg Member Posts: 14
    My wife started this thread, and the last response I could see that she posted was in June of 2008. At that time we were having the engine pulled for the third time (this is the second engine). We had the motor replaced, ensured the check engine light was out, and the differential was properly attached (as this fell apart after the first engine replacement), and went car shopping.

    She went to Honda, Suzuki, Toyota, Saturn, Ford, and Chevrolet. Obviously no Chrysler. She did not find anything she liked as much as the Pacifica. I took her on a date about a week later and she drove the Nissan Pathfinder and fell in love. I was not shocked as I have the Frontier.

    Needless to say, we now have four Nissans and they burn about a quart of oil total every three months among them. That is from the NX2000 that has 274, 000 miles on it. The 300zx has 92, 000 miles, the Frontier has 40,000 miles and her Pathfinder has 54,000 miles with no problems.

    I hate to buy out of the American market, but I can't tolerate substandard products. Best of luck to all the Pacifica owners. My recommendation is to go shopping.
  • faroutfarout Member Posts: 1,609
    What you describe is not so much an engine problem as a dealer service problem! After pulling the engine three times someone has to be doing something wrong! It stands to reason two engines is more that bad luck! If Chrysler was making that many bad engines there would be a report to NITSFA. I believe the Dealers service had to be messing up bad...REAL BAD!!!!!

    We have a 2007 Pacifica Touring AWD with 102,000 miles and the engine has been flawless! The oil gets changed between 4,000 and 5,500 miles. The most oil it has ever used is 1 quart when it went 6,200 miles before we could get the oil changed. If your Pacifica was purchased new by you then the Lifetime Power Train Warranty would take care of it. Our PAC was bought 8- 31- 07 new. We have put a lot of miles on the PAC going to the VA Hospital and home. Sometimes as many as 15 trips a month. Each trip is 230 miles round trip.

    We have had 15 new Chrysler made vehicles in our 42 years of marriage. We have had two that had problems. A 1996 Dodge Caravan, and a 2005 Jeep Liberty Diesel. Both of these vehicles Chrysler contacted us and asked us if we wanted Chrysler to buy them back, replace them with the same vehicle or buy something else Chrysler made. The 1996 Caravan we elected an exact replacement. On the Jeep Liberty we chose a 207 Jeep Compass. The Compass was too small so we traded it in for the Pacifica with the Lifetime Power Train Warranty. So we are very pleased with how we have been treated, and the vehicles we have had.

    The fact is if you are happy you might tell four people. If you are unhappy you will tell 20 people.

    I am sorry you two have had such problems, but I would blame the service dep. at the dealer for messing things up.

    farout
  • faroutfarout Member Posts: 1,609
    vendor neuteal: Who ever informed you that using a quart of oil every 800 miles is seriously in error. Chrysler allows the dealer to preform a sealed oil filler tube, and sealed empty bolt test. If the seal is tampered with in anyway the test is invalid. The service manager has great amount of authority when it comes to making the call to analyze, diaignose, disassemble, remove damaged parts, and replace with new or rebuilt parts and reassemble the engine. There still has to be the ok from the authoritise that may be in the Chrysler warranty chain of command.

    I assume this all to late for your situation, but perhaps others who read this might gain some insight.

    farout
  • prissymprissym Member Posts: 1
    I've had the same problem with my 2004 Crysler Pacifica...total piece of crap!! My oil pump went out in Feburary and my car has been at the dealship since then. Crysler is the worst car manufacturer ever! As long as I live I will never buy another product made by that company. I'm typically not the type to wish harm on anyone but that company should have went under along time ago in my opinion! Why do we have to pay for their mistakes...they need to step up to the plate and do what is right and fair for the consumer. I am a middle class class hard working Mom that needs good transpertation and felt like I was making a good choice when I bought the car.....worst mistake I've ever made! :sick: :mad:
  • dcgnlmgdcgnlmg Member Posts: 14
    I appreciate that you have had great luck with Chrysler. I have had problems with both my 1995 LeBaron (purchased new) and the 2005 Pacifica (purchased new). There were four dealers involved. One in Virginia with the LeBaron. Two dealers in the San Diego area (one of which rebulit the engine) and one in Las Vegas (who replaced the engine while we completed our trip to Yellowstone in a Town and Country).

    I believe that the problem is considerably more associated with the 2005 AWD version from the past 6 years of data collection.

    As I stated, I have had zero problems with Nissan and all of my experiences with the dealer (Mossy has all the local Nissan dealerships) have been fantastic. My Frontier feels like new every-time I drive away with the routine maintenance, my Z is the best, my beater NX is fun (274,000 miles and purring) and my wife loves her Pathfinder. Although my wife and I have been married only 12 years, I look forward to owning my Z and Frontier for the next 30 years. I am sure my wife will probably have a few new vehicles over that time. :)
  • faroutfarout Member Posts: 1,609
    Good to hear you ar pleased with what you have. Vehcile problems are such a pain. My wife calls vehciles "a necessary evil". Every time its time for a major repair it always comes at a time we are least able to afford it. Most generally all the vehcile makers make 10% super great cars, and 80% good cars and 10% that are not quite as good. It's just a pick of the draw sometimes. Thanks for you input.

    farout
  • mikeg59mikeg59 Member Posts: 1
    I have 2008 Chysler Town & Country with exactly same problem and Chrysler gives same anser "within tollerance". Well, not within my tollerance. I now have 80,000 km and problem has been there since 50,000. Warranty runs out in 20,000 km. Dealer wants to negotiate to a extended warranty. We will see but i had to threaten to get rid of both my Chryslers to get the point across. Looks like a Honda on the horizon. Has anyone been told what the problem is? Our local mechanic says it is probably in the oil rings. Have tried additives to unstick but to no avail. Worse in summer than winter.
  • crickelscrickels Member Posts: 4
    I have an 06 Pacifia. My check engine light has been on for about a month. I had it checked at Autozone and they said the code was most likely related to a bad fuel cap. So I replaced the fuel cap. Drove it for about 2 weeks and the check engine light is still on. So I took it to the local Chrysler dealership and they told me it's a large evap leak and it needs a new fuel pump.

    I've read about all the issues other Pacifica owners are having, but I haven't had any stalling or starting issues. Idles just fine, no stalling, stuttering, nothing! Just the check engine light consistantly on. And the ABS light, but that's the least of my worries at the moment. I've had no other problems with the car except this. Any suggestions as to what else this can be??? I really don't think it's the fuel pump! And I refuse to drop $700 if this is not truly the problem!

    Thanks!
  • grugergruger Member Posts: 15
    Go back to Autozone and ask to have the pacifica computer reset, once reseted the engine light should come off, if it comes back on again, do the same thing again, have autozone reset the computer. IT SHOULD BE FREE TO DO THIS! If it comes on a third and fourth time then you have a serious problem. Do NOT REFER to the FIRST ENGINE LIGHT as a problem which might be just be a minor thing as your gas cover not clicking shut correctly which happen to me and I had Sears reset the computer and the engine light never came back on. But reset it 3 to 4 times before doing anything serious, and get 2 to 3 other opinion from different garage's before you really get the right answer to the problem. I recommend Sears but don't go for the extras. :shades:
  • crickelscrickels Member Posts: 4
    Yep tried that. I've had the light reset 2x's already with no avail. I also removed the air cleaner box and replaced the hoses (found that answer on here as well). That was done yesterday and i had the light reset again. so now I'm just waiting to see if that fixed it or if I have to go to the next step.

    I've been told by a chrysler mechanic in Texas that if the light comes back with the same code (low evap leak), I need to have a 'smoke test' done to see if there is a leak elsewhere in the fuel line. The 'gas cap' indicator never went off (where the mileage shows) in all of this. Brand new cap and it's been tightened by 2 different men, so I know it's pretty secure.

    Just so over the lack of answers and problems with this car. Oh yeah, add to the list that it sucks oil like nobody's business. I have to add a quart or 2 between regularly scheduled oil changes. But I stay on top of that so it shouldn't be a problem in the future (hopefully!!)

    I'm so over this car and the problems!!
  • jillsaintjillsaint Member Posts: 1
    I have been having this problem since I had this vehicle. Everytime I get my oil changed I am back at the mechanic asking why is the oil running out. He said it is a problem with this vehicle. They tried to make me purchase high mileage oil. My car has low mileage so why do I need high mileage oil? This makes no sense. I then always had the check engine problem and had to have the catalytic converter replaced. Now my problem is the abs light illuminating every so often.
  • faroutfarout Member Posts: 1,609
    If someone over filled to oil it could have blown a seal at some time. The book calls for 5.5 quarts. Some lazy jerk could have put in 6.5 quarts in a mistake. Have a Chrysler dealer look at it.
  • faroutfarout Member Posts: 1,609
    Oil consumption cause could be if someone used anything but 10 30 oil. We have 107,200 miles and use 1/2 qt in 5,000 miles. I do not change my oil until we have gone at least 4,500 miles, and at times 5,600 miles on the oil. Recently Chrysler changed Mopar oil from Mobile 10 30 to Penzoil 10 30 oil. But I have been told its made specfically per Mopars formula. I do not like Penzoil, but as long as I have the LifeTime Powertrain warranty and the oil is changed at the dealer I feel that's about all I can ask for. If I did not thave the warranty I would use the Mobile 5000 oil 10 30 oil.

    I have read that using Mobile 1 oil can cause the rings to not seal properly and use oil. Has anyone used Mobile 1 oil with the problem of oil consumption?
  • msjackie1msjackie1 Member Posts: 4
    yes I have been having this missing oil issue evey since I had this lemon 2005 pacifica.Now they are saying we need a new engine so i called cyrsler and they recommend a oil comsumption test be done I told them the car cannot be driven to the dealer nor driven 500 miles after an oil change to see where this oil is going. so now i am having to provide documents on our oil changes because of course they want to put the blame on us so they wont have to pay for anything on thier defective piece of crap car.i i would never recommend this car to anyone. we have had other issues with this car dealing with fuel pumps which had an recall so if anyone has an issue with the fuel the car is stalling gas hand going up and down it is covered under a recall do not let them tell you other wise also had an issue with the gear shaft car only stayed in park position had to have it towed in for that. so there is a list of things
  • mnjeffmnjeff Member Posts: 7
    My advice is to not bother because no matter what, Chrysler won't back their defective engine. We ended up footing the entire bill of replacing our engine and no matter what we did Chrysler claimed they knew nothing about an oil issue and that there was nothing wrong with the engine. I wish you the best of luck. And at the same time, advise you and everyone who reads this to NEVER BUY ANY CHRYSLER PRODUCT OF ANY KIND, EVER.
  • crickelscrickels Member Posts: 4
    Oh I agree whole heartedly! I bought this car out of convenience from my parents bc i was in a bind. My dad babied this car, as he does with all his cars. He has never ever had problems with cars. Problems didnt start with this one until 3 months after i boight ot.

    Chryslers are pieces of [non-permissible content removed] and they do not take responsibility for anything! Mine was the fuel pump module. $700 to replace it. I had 2 pending codes that took 2000 miles to clear (catalytic converter and o2 sensor) to clear. I'm sure those will be next on the list to replace.

    Good luck to anyone else that has a lemon like these. It's alot of out of pocket to keep it up. Whatever happened to American cars being quality??
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