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On the Mazda I want to drive the 2.5i Touring of course. I need to see how much black plastic is in it compared to mine. I like the Instrument panel on the Mazda in the pictures. I really want to see if I like the way it looks in person too. Not sold on the grill.
As I have said before a family member works for Mazda so I will just go over there and ask for one for the day.
I had a 07 Fusion AWD until a couple of years ago and it was the same way.
I got her up to 50 mph, and did a few full throttle stoplight to stoplight acceleration runs, and there is good power down low. I did notice that there was a lot of black plastic, but it was of high quality.
The sticker was $28k, for the Touring i model with leather and heated seats. Don't count on negotiating a deal until dealers are fully stocked. The demo I drove was not for sale....it was there just to garner pre-orders. So, don't run over to Mazda with a wad of cash till April.
What everyone was really excited about was the new Skyactiv D - 2.2 liter Diesel, which will have 175 HP and 310 lb ft torque. Now, what is really cool is that it has a 14.1 compression ratio (super low for a compression burn engine), so it will rev more like a gas engine.
The bottom line is that the new diesel will finally enable Mazda to wage war with Americas only successful line of Diesel compact and mid-size sedan products.... Volkswagen TDI .
While this may seem trivial to some, if you drive long distances it becomes a nuisance - especially in the northern plain states where there is a lot of empty space. I've lost close to 1/3 of travel range for a tank of gas because of this compared to what I previously drove (and still considered buying another of).
And to those who use a relatively current iPhone (4, 4S - can't speak to 5 but it runs the same iOS) and are thinking about using Sync - forget it. My $50 Plantronics M50 Bluetooth earpiece connects to the iPhone in seconds and is rock solid with answering and ending calls. Pairing the iPhone with Sync creates a lot of lag that interferes with most everything else Sync does. Not having the iPhone paired with Sync allows the Sync system to operate extremely well but you of course lose one of the things you maybe purchased the car for - hands-free/device-free Bluetooth. Why they can't provide the equivalent functionality I have in the tiny Bluetooth earpiece in the very impressive Sync system is beyond me.
Rant off :mad:
Have not had my 2013 out on a highway trip yet but it is getting better mpg than the '07 on similar trips. Should be able to hit 700 miles.
I hear ya. One of the things I look for when doing comparisons for a future purchase is range on a tank. This is for two reasons. One, like you, I like to fill up less frequently when on a trip of length. Two, the fewer number of times I have to fill up in the dead of winter the better. Seems all the manufacturers have reduced their tank size. I'm sure it's to save a few pounds which probably equates to .05 better mpg and they must figure since they have increased MPG overall that people won't care because, after all, they are still getting the same supposed range as before. For awhile the Altima still kept it's 20 gal tank and could get 34-35 on the hwy. That was some range. Now I see they have reduced to tank size to 18 or less.
I agree that it would be nice if there was a "usable capacity" amount that could be referenced. When they reserve 2 gals for this and a gal for that it affects a smaller capacity tank more than it affects a larger tank as a percentage.
I have a 2013 Fusion with MFT and an iPhone 5 and have never had a single problem with the phone pairing or not pairing or messing up anything else. It's either a bad phone, bad software (3.5.1 is the latest version) or a bad APIM in the car. It's not a flaw with sync or MFT.
Thanks.
Having said that you don't want to run out of gas because that can hurt the fuel pump, but driving another 30-50 miles with the light on won't hurt anything.
I'd be interested in what your owner's manual says about what to do when the light comes on. It probably says that "you should fuel at your earliest convenience" or something like that. Maybe it gives some more detail which would be interesting to see.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/us/2013/02/27/dnt-teen-out-of-control- -car.wfaa
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2012/05/16/lklv-hancocks-hyundai.cnn
Sounds like what was happening with Toyotas in 2010.
Toyota folks claim there were no problems with toyota vehicles--it was all elderly people who didn't know the difference between the brake and accelerator pedal, or a sticking accelerator pedal due to someone else's fault not toyota's, or floor pmats in the wrong place. Couldn't have been anything wrong with computer system that runs things.
Same must be true here for Hyundai?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Another high speed runaway vehicle.
I wonder if this is all related to some defect or just a coincidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovRu_a3-p8E
Camry 31,270 -5.7%
Accord 27,999 +40.9%; PHEV 17
Fusion 27,875 +28%
Altima 27,725 -15.9%
Sonata 16,007
Malibu 14,817 -25.9%
Optima 13,195
200 11,446 +18%
Avenger 9,980 +52%
Passat 7,532 -8%
Legacy 3,745 +3.60%
Mazda6 2,702 -47%
And the brutal shoot-out for sales continues....The winner: the customer. The best midsize cars ever at very competitive prices.
Big surge by Fusion. I think Ford wants to pass the Accord, but I don't think Honda will give up without a fight. The Camry slumps, but is still comfortably ahead for now.
Surprising fall for VW's Passat. What's going on there? I guess the old tech low mpg/low power base engine caught up with it? The often last-place rated Malibu also seems to be sinking.
Candy apple red, Bam......
I saw your baby at my local dealer a few weeks ago:
http://www.jeffschmittmazda.com/2014-Mazda-MAZDA6-i-Sport-Beavercreek-OH/vd/1335- - 1872
It was just off the truck so the extra $300 red paint job didn't look so good. Looks much better now that they cleaned her up. What are you paying for it?
msrp 23590
The gas tank issue sounds complicated. Maybe it's in the manual under My-Fords-Tank?
There are just so many things wrong about that. Almost as complicated as My Ford Touch, which if operated at speed could result in: My Fords Totaled.
Don't want to continue having issues? Then you can look into the latest acronym, My-Fords-Traded. :P
There are some functional issues, but the good thing about software is that it can be improved without 'throwing out the baby with the bath water'.
The 19's look cool but I drive in allot of snow in the winter. I do not want to buy dedicated rims and tires like we had to for the wifes Sonata. At least they are both alloy rims.
I'm a minority on the subject of not wanting a V-6. Fuel economy is a factor with all the driving I do. Still waiting to hear back on delivery......
The Accords have 16's on the LX, 18's on the Sport and 17's on the EX & Coupe. I drove both the Honda LX and Sport. While they handled surprisingly well for Accords the Mazda was better overall. Personally I find the styling still says "grocery getter" compared to the Mazda. Which in reality is what all the four door sedans are.
Indeed. My 2013 Fusion Titanium has Adaptive Cruise Control, Collision warning, Blind spot detection, cross traffic alert, MyFordtouch, backup camera, electronic parking brake, selectshift manual shift capability, automatic wipers, automatic headlamp dimming, Navigation, sirius travel link, sat radio, heated seats, intelligent access with push button start, remote start and 19" wheels.
Amazing.
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The dyno testing done by K&N on a 2011 Sonata 2.4,Shows wayyy less horsepower than 200. More like 139 HP! Also, 149 lb-ft torque instead of 186. See it here:
http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-5301_dyno.pdf
Now, I assumed that this is supposed to be at the wheels, until I saw the dyno results on the 2012 VW 2.0T. It showed 179HP and 194 lb-ft. See it here:
http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-9504_dyno.pdf
How is this possible? Hyundai very recently got busted for over estimating fuel economy figures, and I can tell you that I am struggling to get more than 22mpg on my 12 Opt EX 2.4. Could they also be exaggerating the output specs? :confuse: :mad: It sure looks like it here. A fluke?
*** These tests were done to show before/after horsepower on the full cold air intake system- ($200 to $400). I just purchased the drop in filter-charger. It was $40 on eBay, including shipping.
I do not use them, because I look at in two ways (although I confess I first derived my opinion when bike racing so..the application on performance bikes) but the two reasons are this: first, any filter media that lets more air in (that's how they get the higher hp and tq numbers) lets more dirt in. It really is as simple as that. But I'll be backing back outta here before replying to the probable deluge of posters wanting to argue it..like I say, Google will reveal. I say, use your own brain and power of reasoning.
Second reason, is that the design and cubic inch area of air boxes are quite specifically designed to optimize intake air flow, maximize FE and exploit hp and torque. If you doubt it, just remember that exhaust manifold design (headers in a perfect world) all contribute to maximize the engine's abilities and if how air being handled can be tuned on the exhaust side of things, the same holds true for intake air. Do you really think that K&N can custom design a filter pefectly to maximize each vehicle they can supply for from an air management engineering aspect? No..they just make and sell what fits..
And the biggest problem is a consumer too easily falling in to the buy it/replace and forget it trap. It's a novelty in the beginning, but very maintenance hungry ongoing after. And messy. If you are diligent and re oil correctly etc etc and when you should, then you might have at least a little less damaging end results than the vast majority of enthusiasts that get hooked on the K&N bug. Good luck, but if you haven't installed it yet, take it back and get your money back....unless you really do plan to be diligent forever.
Every used car/bike I ever consider buying is ruled out as soon as I pop the hood and check the air filter. Keep in mind that for track use, a K&N can perform as an air filter not too bad because it is at least a controlled environment. There is less dust for starters, and the debris that is there..rubber rollers, usually do get trapped well and don't prematurely clog the filter like road dust dirt does, and can be tapped out after a race..
Well, the primary reason for this is that as the filter clogs, it actually starts to filter better, but up to the point that other issues will present themselves, reduced power and FE, and eventually the filter gets addressed.
Ya, I can see you probably being diligent..still doesn't mean that the air flow PATTERN going thru your new K&N is superior to the pattern it takes through the OEM filter. And it is a scale that changes. I wish I could show you the number of airboxes I have serviced on bikes that have patterns of oiled dust (on the clean side) on boxes that always used OEM filters and then after K&N. Although I suspect pics wouldn't make a believer outta you either..
Carry on..I knew it was probably going to be a wasted post going in, but thought maybe a non-regular lurker might read it and hopefully they will benefit.
Now, I assumed that this is supposed to be at the wheels, until I saw the dyno results on the 2012 VW 2.0T. It showed 179HP and 194 lb-ft.
I'm not a mechanic or engineer...so I'm probably just making this up...
I've heard (from some where) that typically there is a 15% loss from the published bhp figure to the actual number produced by the dyno. Each dyno is different so you really need to compare readings from the same dyno.
So the Sonata at 200 should read 170 hp on the dyno (200 - 15%).
The results from a dyno are typically 'corrected' for temp/altitude etc.
Hyundai has previously been 'caught' with errors in their HP figures...so who knows; that does seem a bit low to me.
I believe the VW 2.0T is know to be underrated by VW; that the actual 'real' number, such as as 179 at the wheels, would corroborate.
I agree with the previous post regarding K&N filters. Unless you're "on it" all the time you're wasting your money. Plus...the only real benefits I've ever seen are when you've made other changes to the vehicle such as engine, boost, exhaust, etc. I would expect you'd get 1-2 hp extra at best...maybe at peak RPM too... So unless you're racing it (then I'd suggest the turbo) I don't think you'll notice it at all.
Regarding hp numbers. I don't think Hyundai under rated. There is usually quite a large loss going from the engine to the dyno. - especially in an automatic. The VW may have been a manual (which puts more power down) and the VW 2.0 is notorious for being under rated. They don't want to compete with Audi so they under rate the engine for VW applications.
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This is his first non-domestic and he is just floored by how well Honda has handled his issues. He dropped his car off at the dealer on Monday due to the misfire issue and flashing CE light. Within an hour after dropping it off, an engineer from Honda USA was on the phone with him apologizing for the problems and explained how they were going to fix it. He never received that kind of service with Ford.
I'm willing to bet my dad will by another Honda despite the serious engine trouble he's been having with his Accord.
The new Accord really looks nice. I saw an Accord Sport the other day and thought it had a presence about it that the Accord has lacked for a long time. Good performance, good fuel economy, and decent looks inside and out. It probably would be my first choice in the family sedan segment.
Sorry to hear about your dad's issues, but apparently Honda has stepped up, as is usual. More than some domestic brands have done when for example car owners reported extraordinary oil consumption on their cars, such as Cadillac CTS.
I was "blown away" when we started buying Hondas in 1984. Their superior engineering and low tolerances in engine parts made for incredibly low oil consumption. Have had numerous Honda and Acura cars over 3 decades and all of them had very, very low oil consumption/burning between oil changes. Outstanding engineering not available with American brands.
The problems with his engine originated with oil consumption. Which from the little research I've done could be related to the VCM system. He always took it to the same dealer for all oil changes and service. IIRC, he had an oil change around 60k. A few weeks later it started running rough and a low oil light came on. He took it to the dealer and it basically used all of its oil within 1k miles and lost compression in cylinder 3 or 5 (can't remember). That was the first tear down and partial rebuild. That was 30k miles and 12 months ago. About a month ago it started all over again. It started misfiring again with flashing CE light. Took it to the dealer and it had very little oil. They reset the ECM and advised to start using synthetic oil. That worked until this past weekend when it started missing and the CE light was flashing again.
I haven't talked to my dad, but my mom said they ordered a new new engine block. So maybe they're replacing the entire short block, I don't know for sure, but from what my mom said, it will be nearly a complete tear down. From what both of my parents have said, Honda's customer service has been exceptional and far beyond anything they've experienced with Ford or GM.