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On a previous thought from a previous poster who said the current
gen. TL has auto headlights, are you sure about that? Because when I looked at the stalk on the left side of the steering wheel, I didn't see the word "auto" on the stalk. I'm curious, as I have this feature on my current vehicle( Actually have had it on the last two vehicles) and I like having it.
I've seen a few on the road either in front or in the back and I think it looks really nice. The front beak, when I've seen the car approach from behind gives the car a low slung, stealthy look.
One of the few things that I'm not crazy about on the TL is the length of the car at 195 inches. Whoa! I don't believe I can fit this car in my garage.
Maximafan(I think it was you). At 195" the TL is 16'3" long. Unless your garage was built for a conestoga, I know of no garages that are that small.
a single-car garage. My RX350 is 186 inches long and will fit with no problem, although it's tight getting out of the car, as I have
shelves built on the walls on both sides loaded with stuff. My previous vehicle, a 2002 Maxima was around 191 inches long and
I used to have to pull in all the way up and tap the washing machine that is against the front wall to make sure I could safely close the garage door behind it. So I'm not sure if trying to
put a car longer than 191 inches will work all that well.
Of course, I could just keep the car outside in the driveway, but I've got two large oak trees in the front yard and I get a lot of tree
sap on my car whenever I leave it outside.
Ah, decisions, decisions!
Thanks,
Joe
And nevermind parking in your own garage. Those added inches on the TL will be felt when you're maneuvring in a tight public parkade. IMO, the new TL is unnecesarily big.
My garages stored all of the things mentioned plus much more, including a full workshop, and my cars were always parked inside. These included full size Blazer, Chevys and at one time my Father in law's 1978 Caddy. I always could get around the cars and stay clean.
My daughter has claimed the center backseat has her own beacuse she hooks her IPOD and gets to see the information on the NAV screen.My sons interest is the back up camera voice commands.
MAN this car is sweet.
Furthermore, the previous generation TL is by no mean small and nimble, its a heavy car and also wide as well.
Tell me what smaller sedans are out there to accomodate my family- a Passat (yeah right), I also have a 2004 Accord (my wife's) in the family as well. I cannot get her out of my car, she said its night and day when she sits in mine and hers.
TL RL BMW 535 Lexus GS MB E350 Volvo XC90
Length 195.3 195.7 191.1 190.0 191.7 189.3
Width 74.0 72.7 72.7 71.7 73.0 74.7
Wheelbase 109 110 114 112 110 113
Frt Legroom 42.5 42.3 41.5 43.5 41.3 41.0
Rr Legroom 36.2 36.3 36.0 36.4 35.8 34.6
(Sorry if it is a bit hard to read. I did try to adjust the spacing but not working.)
I included XC90 which I also owned. I used to think the XC90 is big, but the TL is even half foot longer than Volvo XC90, which has a 3rd row seats. With its larger overall size, the TL's wheelbase is the shortest among these vehicles, and its interior room is only marginally larger than some (actually smaller than Lexus GS).
I like the TL, but I wish its dimensions were in line with those of BMW, MB, and Lexus.
I wanted to find out from 4th generation owner if any of you have had rattle/quality issues with your TL at all or problems with vibrations/buzzing noises in your cars when driving? I'm just curious to see if Acura has begun to address these issues which affected a decent majority of 3rd generation owners because Acura makes a great product and the TL is by no means a cheap vehicle and for a 34k-35k dollar car to get rattles and vibration noises was just unacceptable
Thanks in advance for your posts and information!!!!
Have a nice day now. And a great big Hello to our friendly hosts!
I truly don't see what all the 'talk' is over a few inches.
Where did you see the $5k rebate info? I checked Edmunds' Incentive and Rebate, but could only fine a $1,500 dealer cash for 2009, but not for 2010. A $5k rebate would probably make the TL a screaming buy, despite its over-sized dimension.
Oh, and just so you'd know, is not that I want to play nice per se, but as you know, Edmunds is sponsored by the Senior Ladies Bridge and Lawn Bowling Club of America (and I think employs a couple of their members too :P But strictly part-time though ).
So we drove the 2010 TL SH-AWD and we fell in love with it. Got the Pearl White with Black interior. So far very impressed. I think it depends on the color you get. The front grille is not attractive on dark colored cars. It does'nt look as bad on white or Silver colored cars. I do like the back of the car though.
Also IMO you don't need anymore than 300 HP for the street. Where are you ever going to be able to take full advantage of that much HP.
You can go out and buy a CTS V or the new Taurus SHO with 365 HP?
I figure if I want raw HP, I have my 66' Mustang 5.0 I can take to the Drags in the Summer.
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement. It's like telling someone he's not as dumb as he looks. :P
I never leave well enough alone. But it's the wifes car so I need to be subtle with the upgrades and modifications.
Do you use any of the newer products: Z-CS or Z-AIO? If so, your thoughts? I'll need to order some new stuff this spring, Z-2 seems to be the best...
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
I have a long driveway so I spent the better part of yesterday cleaning up and had no chance to try it. We were out today but no slippery spots. I'm sure Mother Nature will try again!
I've had the chance to drive the newest gen TL several times....first at its initial rollout. Plus, my Acura dealer keeps sending me coupons for free oil changes and discounted service, even though I don't have my TL any more.
I have an Accord, now. So, I take it to my Acura dealer for service (since the TSX is a clone of the Accord). They always give me a "loaner" TL (or TSX) to drive while service is being done. Part of their generosity is because I'm sure they want to get me "hooked" on buying one.
The drive, the looks, the quality are all superb. It will be my next car. Probably a year or two away, though.
The last one I drove was a black one with the 18" wheel option, with tan interior. It was stunning in that particular iteration.
The exterior styling of this TL has grown on me. In fact, I can begin to say that I like the new design. What still bother me are FWD and its bloated size. Test drive around the blocks at the dealership was no help at all.
Therefore, I would like to get inputs from current TL FWD owners who moved from a mid-size RWD sport sedan such as the 328 or G37. How is its handling compared to a RWD? How was your adjustment from RWD to this FWD car? Any regret? (I know the 6MT SH-AWD model is great, but at that price point the TL loses it appeal to me.)
Thank you in advance for sharing your experience/thoughts.
I've driven a TL AWD, a regular TL, and a G37x. Performance wise, the TL AWD and the G37x are pretty close. Never took a stop watch to them, but my perception was they're very close. The standard TL seems just as quick, but it is a softer ride than any of the others. Handling on the TL AWD is impressive, but so is the handling on the G. They just go about it differently.
You're right about pricing. All I can find around me are '09 G37s. Seems as if all the '09 TLs are gone. So, the pricing differential (about $3K-$4K) between the G and TL may be a wash if I were to compare price of '10 MY Gs vs '10 MY TLs.
Bottom line, I could be happy with either. TL is bigger (not necessarily a factor for me as I don't haul people around all that much). I like the TL interior a bit better vs the G.
I'm fairly certain I could cut a deal at $34K for a '10 TL FWD Tech. And, a '10 AWD TL TECH should be in the vicinity of $38K.
'09 G37x loaded up like for like seems to be in that $34K-$35K range. The '10 G37s? Who knows? They haven't hit the street yet.
Buicks have never been on my radar. So, I'm not even shopping them.
Ya the front grille has much to be desired, but not bad with the WDP color. I am sure I will have that grille modified & painted some how when the weather gets better here in the NE.
Have driven my sisters 05 & 07 G35X and there is no comparison. Her car is way to stiff & uncomfortable. More sport than luxury IMO.