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  • bshelbshel Member Posts: 232
    awww, was the V stolen?
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    What do you mean you lost it? Purposfully, or by accident?

    Sounds like you traded up, lol.

    Is that why you were not coming to Corning meet? We still like you and MDX is still a Honda SUV, so you are welcome to attend.

    Are the olympics still on? lol
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,527
    Details, please!!

    Did you trade it, or sell it privately?

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Don't forget to update Terry in RWTIV.
  • jimbresjimbres Member Posts: 2,025
    248K miles on the original clutch? Incredible! That has to be a record.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    A'ight, here are the details.

    Mrs. Varmint and I had been looking to trade the CR-V for something with more cargo space (primarily) at the end of the year. We've been saving for a car, plus my company gives a fairly substantial bonus check. But we weren't looking to buy until January when that check comes in.

    We started looking just to see what was out there and what kind of deal we might get. No plans to buy, just looking... Yeah, right! The second dealer we stopped at had exactly the vehicle we were looking for; a Silver 2004 MDX touring model without NAV or RES and no extras. It's very clean (almost perfect) and the fact that it had relatively high miles (33K) meant the price was right. It's only been on the road 18 months so I figure those have gotta be highway miles.

    How much? $32K. I didn't have to talk him down. The salesman didn't even try to push the $36K price they had on the sticker. According to Edmunds that's right between the dealer retail and the CPO price for this vehicle. (It is a CPO.)

    We did have to talk them up on my trade. They offered $4.5K, which is a low-ball offer. They claimed (correctly) that the 5MT would make it a difficult sale. But I know Buster is worth more than that. Mrs. Varmint and I got them up to $6K without too much effort. I think the down-payment we offered was a big help.

    We financed a chunk of it, but will pay off the balance when that bonus check arrives. I know they're making money off us, but I don't begrudge them a living. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting taken for a ride. The salesman, Mr. Conroy was good to us, but I have to say the dealership was slow, slow, slow.

    Anyway... now I have a better vehicle for recovery purposes on the trails. Anybody wanna go wheeling?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Congrats on the new ride.

    Hey are you an M'techer by any chance? The January bonus check rings a bell with an e-mail address you once had in your profile.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Dear lord, I've been caught!
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    LOL!!

    My wife worked there years ago. January was always a nice month!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Congrats, nice choice for a replacement vehicle.

    Since you didn't get factory NAV, how 'bout one of these bad boys when that check arrives?

    image

    Mine was $404 delivered to my door.

    Uh-oh, I'm gonna get you in trouble with Ms. Varmint. :surprise:

    -juice
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    Congrats on the X varmint!
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Couldn't justify stretching the budget to get the factory NAV. Frankly, I'm a former pizza guy... NAV is for sissies! :P

    Okay, back to CR-Vs...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    When is the CR-V gonna get a NAV option? :D

    Wait 'til you try one for an extended period, the point of interest are the real usefullness. For instance you could find the 5 closest pizza joints, so you wouldn't have to wait for someone like a young varmint to show up at the door. :P

    -juice
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Hey Varmint, congrats on the new ride. Hopefully, you don't go and become one of them MDX'ers who are affraid to let their MDX touch a dirt road.

    I think there was a guy on HondaSUV looking for a 1999-2001 EX 5 man, and he had the hardest time finding it. If you still have posession of your car (waiting for the transaction go through) hit him up. He was desperate.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    I know have a more appropriate recovery vehicle for pulling my CR-V buddies out of trouble. Why would I not use it? ;)

    As for Buster, he is now in the hands of Clair Acura in Norwood, MA. But, if it helps, they have two of 5MT 99 EXs on the lot. I'll post about it later.
  • 9puppies9puppies Member Posts: 2
    Are the door locks supposed to lock when starting ignition? Open when ignition off? Can this setting be made somehow? When I start ignition, I hear a sound from doors that sounds like something locking. But the door locks do not lock.
  • wskwsk Member Posts: 2
    Picked up an 06 cr-v recently. One of the papers I had to sign was something verifying that the seller had told me not to use tire chains. It was a dramatic piece of paper with like 20 point font. The seller seemed to be saying that tire chains could cause damage to the vehicle that would cost an inordinate amount to fix. Seemed to have something with the unibody construction? Or maybe I'm confusing that with something else he said...

    What's up with that? A) is there something about the design of the cr-v that makes chains unusable? and B) is damage to the cr-v in that area more expensive to fix than usual, or is this the case with most smaller suv's at this point?

    Thanks...

    -glenn
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    First, congrats on your new CR-V.

    Now the chains... I think the problem this dealer is trying to avoid is people putting chains on one set of tires. If you were to put chains on just the front tires, it might make the diameter of those tires larger than the diameter of the rear tires, which would engage the 4WD constantly (which it is not designed to do).

    However, if you put chains on all four tires, there's no problem.

    While we're the subject, use cables, not chains.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It's a clearance issue. Just use low-profile Z-chains:

    http://www.vulcantire.com/chainz6_c.htm

    -juice
  • 9puppies9puppies Member Posts: 2
    Are the door locks supposed to lock when starting ignition? Open when ignition off? Can this setting be made somehow? When I start ignition, I hear a sound from doors that sounds like something locking. But the door locks do not lock.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    "I think there was a guy looking for a 1999-2001 EX 5 man, and he had the hardest time finding it."

    If you know the user name of the person seeking that CRV, direct him to the classifieds section over there.
  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    Are the door locks supposed to lock when starting ignition? Open when ignition off? Can this setting be made somehow?

    No, the CR-V doesn't do that. I suppose you could do it with some sort of aftermarket system, but it's not an option that Honda gives you.

    Sorry.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Are the door locks supposed to lock when starting ignition? Open when ignition off? Can this setting be made somehow? When I start ignition, I hear a sound from doors that sounds like something locking. But the door locks do not lock.

    What does the OWNER's MANUAL say they are supposed to do? This question is easy to answer, just look it up. My 2005 EX manual does not mention auto locking doors. I think it is a Ford thing. None of the Honda's I have had ever had auto locking doors. Honda is pretty sure that drivers are capable of locking the doors themselves if they feel they need to. No reason to have the machine do it for you.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    I believe there are two arguments in favor of auto-locking doors. One is valid, the other... not so much.

    If the doors lock automatically (once you start moving), it can help prevent a car-jacking. No one can pull a door open while stopped at a traffic light. I can see why this might be valuable to some.

    The other is the belief that locked doors are less likely to pop open after a collision. Some safety advocates promote this notion even though it is generally considered bogus. The locks do not make the door's latching mechanism any stronger or more resistant to forced opening.

    The argument against auto-locking doors is that rescue workers would have to spend extra time pulling someone from a locked car.
  • barbecuesauce9barbecuesauce9 Member Posts: 67
    GM has auto-lock when shifting D or certain speed. auto-unlock when shift back P or shut off the engine.
    Wish V would offer daytime running lights,auto-lock and navigation option.
    Remember saying in the manual "lock the door if you don't want to pop out".
  • jimbresjimbres Member Posts: 2,025
    Want a navigation system? Pick up 1 of the excellent after-market units. I recently bought a Garmin c330 from Amazon for $560, which is less than 1/3rd of the price of OEM systems & which can easily be moved from car to car (or to your boat, if you have one). We've already put it to work & we're pleased with it.

    Earlier this year, a Wall Street Journal article pointed out that factory-installed nav systems are poor value propositions. You pay $2K now & you're lucky to get back 20 cents on the dollar when you trade your car in 3 years down the road. They're prettier but they're tough to upgrade & can be used in only 1 car.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think Acura uses DVD-based systems, so it should be just a matter of securing a new DVD from your dealer. Not sure about cost, though.

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I think Acura uses DVD-based systems, so it should be just a matter of securing a new DVD from your dealer. Not sure about cost, though.

    IIRC, about $185.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Thanks, rob.

    Also, recently I was looking at used cars, and the ones with NAV carried a significantly higher price.

    We ended up sticking with our current vehicle, and getting aftermarket NAV. But I just don't buy the 20 cents-on-the-dollar argument.

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    According the Terry over at real world trade in values, factory NAV brings about $500 extra on the wholesale/trade in side so look at about $750-1000 extra on the retail side.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Depends on how you're going to use the NAV.

    If all you do is use the NAV for directions, then a portable unit is the far better deal. As pointed out above, it can be moved easily from car to car and will do the job just fine.

    However, factory NAV units have a boatload of additional features. For example, Acura's NAV includes a very capable voice-recognition interface. Acura's latest version is linked to real time traffic information. There's also a very high "techno-slick" factor. I know Acura's best, but I'm sure the competition has many extra features, too.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Actually, both Tom Tom and Garmin offer real-time XM Traffic monitoring in portable NAV units as well.

    Integration means no cords, a built-in look, less likelihood of theft, plus your car can know how fast you are going in a tunnel and accurately predict when you'll reach the end of it. :)

    So there are some advantages to OE, but aftermarket units keep getting better also.

    The option usually costs $2000 at MSRP, but more like $1600-1800 at invoice, which is what most people pay. So the $750-1000 amounts to around 50% of the residual value, i.e. depreciation is proportionate to the rest of the car, as I'd expect.

    -juice
  • jimbresjimbres Member Posts: 2,025
    To tell the truth, juice, I have no first-hand experience with this. I've never owned a car w/factory-installed nav, let alone sold or traded one. So your skepticism is well-founded.

    The point that the WSJ writer was trying to make is that you'll get back more of what you spend on "traditional" (that is, non-electronic) luxuries, such as leather (where it's available as an option) than you will on stuff that's likely to get obsolete before the rest of the car has a chance to wear out. I don't know if it actually works out that way in the marketplace, but the thesis made sense to me.
  • jimbresjimbres Member Posts: 2,025
    Good point. But to get a system with the Acura's features, you have to spend $30K or more on an Acura. We're talking here about the CR-V, which costs nearly $10K less. And for most of us who have bought or are shopping for a CR-V, price is very much an object. I don't want to spend nearly 10% of the car's base price on an option that I won't use very often.

    Here's something else I like about aftermarket solutions. When the next big thing in nav systems comes along in a couple of years (& it will - this is new technology), stepping up to it will be easy & comparatively cheap. I'll simply spend another $500 or $600 on a replacement for my Garmin. Even then, I'll have less money tied up in this stuff than I would if I had sprung for an OEM system (assuming that I had bought a car for which this was an option.)
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Aftermarket NAVs from Pioneer and Kenwood are half the price and still retain DVD and TV functions, along with the GPS nav and voice controls. If one really wanted one (and I mean not just saying I want one in this car for the same price I paid witout it) then can go out and spend $1500 at Crutchfield, or $900 on ebay and get one.

    Anothe rbenefit on Aftermarket, when you turn off the ignition, the screen folds into the radio and no one knows you have it. With OEM it is out there exposed to the world and luring the thieves.
  • barbecuesauce9barbecuesauce9 Member Posts: 67
    I have a portable black and white(red backlight) garmin streetpilot(twice bigger than tom tom).
    It takes 1-5 minutes to locate the satellite and I almost figure out the right way by the time it locates the satellites.
    This thing is so big so does not fit it anywhere to hide it.The manual says do not put anything under the front seat cuz of sensor for air bag. So I hide them under the table.LOL.

    So whenever I am lost,I have to go under the table to get my garmin or move it to the front before the trip.
    Maybe it's time to get a smaller streetpilot.
    I even have Earthmate GPS to connect my laptop. Unless someone is holding the laptop or you have someplace to mount, it is a pain and useless.

    I see Civic offers navigation and daytime running lights starting this year.so I hope new third generation V will offer daytime running lights(Geico gives you 5%discount),auto-lock and navigation.
    I will still take the navigation option if they offer!
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    A question came up in the Problems & Solutions thread regarding use of the rear seats as a bed.

    With the 2002-2006 models, the rear seats may be configured into something like a chaise lounge. The front seats are folded all the way back and meet the cushions of the rear seats. The back of the rear seats is then pushed back as far as they will go. The result looks like this.

    Not flat enough to be called a bed, but probably comfy enough for cat-napping.

    But sorta pales in comparison with the way the 1st gen CR-V bed was configured. That CR-V could actually be used as a bed. (I slept overnight in mine a few times.) The bed slants forward a bit, but it's softer than the bare earth and reasonably long. Unfortunately, the links pics don't do it justice.

    I think the best bed vehicle in the Honda line-up is probably the Element. The E allows for a bed that is both flat and level.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The new Garmins keep getting better. Mine gets a signal usually right away. I had a Tribeca loaner for a week or so and it wasn't any quicker at calculating directions.

    The Garmin's maps are actually more up-to-date.

    -juice
  • vcarrerasvcarreras Member Posts: 247
    dealership last weekend and drove an 06 CRV LX FWD. I liked it but felt the interior was a bit cheap compared to the EX. Unfortunately you can't get an EX FWD only AWD! :( Why not? Any thoughts if the next generation CRV will have the EX FWD? When is the next generation expected? I also hope that we will be able to get it with the 2.2 iCDI diesel like in Europe.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Why get an SUV if you don't need AWD/4WD? You'd spend a ton less on a Matrix or Scion xB.

    Honda's own Fit is sold in Brazil and has a nifty rear seat that folds out of the way so you can carry tall items like a plant inside. That's coming here soon.

    I just think if you want FWD you can save a bunch by getting a 5 door of some sort.

    -juice
  • vcarrerasvcarreras Member Posts: 247
    Juice..I would rather have 2WD/FWD because #1. Better gas mileage. #2. I really don't like seeing the suspension under the 4WD CRV. #3 I don't go off road. #4 I live in FLAT Houston. The wife and I didn't care for the cheap interior of the LX compared to the EX.

    Matrix too small plus you ride too low. :( Don't care for the Scion unless it's a TC. Would rather have a Toyota WISH or Honda FRV :):) or Stream.

    Also looking hard at the FIT. Really nice. I saw a couple in Mexico last month. They should be here in the Spring. :)
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Check out the Mazda5. Very similar in concept to the Honda Stream. I drove one a while back and came away quite impressed.

    Honda doesn't offer many variations on the CR-V because it costs money to not install items on a car. Besides, they have the Element for the bargain shoppers.
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    OT. You can look at the Mazda5 but I don't think you can buy.

    I don't have all the info but I believe all Mazda5's have been recalled. Something about the exhaust system getting excessively hot and potentially causing an issue. When I was reading about it they said they had no fix and people who had bought were given loaners. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the vehicle IMHO.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    I read about that, too. If it's not resolved already, they'll have it figured out soon. I'm sure the only thing slowing them down is getting enough parts manufactured.

    Honda did a similar thing with the 2002 CR-V when it first hit the shores. They found a problem with the seatbelt during some internal crash testing. Some people got their CR-V's "repo'd" because Honda wouldn't let them drive the vehicle.

    That got sorted out a good deal quicker than this Mazda5 issue, but I still wouldn't let something like that stand in my way.
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    Neither the CR-V or the Element pictures you posted looked very comfortable at all. Why not just recline the drivers seat and shut your eyes? How long are you all sleeping in your car for anyway?
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    I would like to find an aftermarket NAV with integrated hard drive small enough to fit in the storage cubby below the stereo. This way I could shut the door when I parked the car and hide it. Any suggestions?

    I have considered the aftermarket NAVs from Pioneer or Kenwood, my only concern is that I do not want to loose the 6-CD player functionality. Can you have both?
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    Is there an AUX input on the back of the current generation CR-V stereo? I have a portable Sirius radio I would like to hard wire into the unit. FM modulation is so-so at best. If there is no existing input, anyone know where to get one?

    Thanks.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Someone in the Mazda chat last night was driving a new Mazda5 that he picked up just the other day so it sounds like they are trickling back to customers, along with $500 from Mazda for the trouble.

    I rarely even post recall news links anymore; they happen and there's one almost every week. There's been XC90 and Land Rover ones in the last couple of days and probably some others I didn't even notice.

    The Mazda5 recall involved 3 fires (link) and no Varmint, I'm not going to finish the rest of that thought, lol.

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  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    #1. Better gas mileage. #2. I really don't like seeing the suspension under the 4WD CRV. #3 I don't go off road. #4 I live in FLAT Houston.

    #1 - the EPA MPG is only 1 MPG city and 2 MPG highway higher on the FWD version. Real life MPG is the same.
    #2 - the suspension is the same. The only difference is the rear differential and drive axles aren't on the FWD
    #3 & #4 - doesn't matter whether you go off road, you live in an area that has heavy rains - something the RT4WD handles very well.

    JM2C
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,527
    They haven't offered an EX in FWD, so far... I doubt they'll start now...

    If it makes you feel any better, the EX AWD version will have much better resale, when you are finished with it..

    regards,
    kyfdx
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