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-mike
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Check to make sure the carpet isn't laying on the pedal. I had this the other day and had the exact same symptom.
If that doesn't do the trick it could be an ECU reprogram or idle air controller.
-mike
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That should give her a clean slate. What do you think?
-mike
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Thank you very much for the information! We will do what you suggested and let you know if it works. We did check the mat and it was no where near the gas pedal. We had removed the carpets and put in the winter mats which are a bit thick, but when you mentioned it we checked it out immediately and it was clear. So, tomorrow we will disconnect the battery and hit the brakes. Thank you !! (If this works, I can't wait to call the Dealer and MySubaru and tell them that "Edmunds" fixed the problem.)
~Carol
-mike
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Annoying.
~ Carol
-mike
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~Carol
-mike
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Thank you for confirming my suspicions. I am wondering though what kind of failure scenarios am I dealing with concerning the throwout bearing. I have read on this and other posts that this was a weak link in the Subaru clutch assembly. I am somewhat cheap and feel that I will replace clutch with bearing. This just seems logical. The thing is my clutch seems fine right now and I am just wondering if I can postpone the repair to "use up" the current clutch a bit more. Can the throwout bearing fail and damage the trans. or drive line in anyway? Or will it just continue to make noise and contribute to a quicker demise of my clutch? I already have an appointment for the drive line fluids to be replaced, do I need to ad the clutch and bearing as well?
-mike
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Thinking of selling the Outback.
After the flush and still in Colorado, I drove up to the ski resorts many times prior without any issues. After the flush I took my vehicle up and seemed to have issues? The trans spued its fluid out of the dip stick which then onto the exhaust causing some smoke. I am car sauvy at most and know my vehicles well, but knew something wasn't right after. I took it back to a well known mechanic who told me that it may have been over filled (who originally did the flush). This persisted for a while until it cleared up and after I brought it in to have it double checked as well.
I then moved from Colorado to Oregon pulling my racing bike and trailer, and a Thule rack and bag on top, and with the car with just about empty exept for me and my dog. Another trip to Colorado a month or so after my initial move, I heard a weired noise and felt some odd shifting issues fron 4th to 3rd and back and forth agressively while hitting the high passes on Hwy70
near Vail.
With concern i brought my car back to my well known and highly trusted mechanic who refered me to a trans specialist who took a look at my car.
I don't trust many people with my vehicles, but I trust this shop over any dealership at most and their referal! These guys are master mechanics.
The guy stated to me after his evaluation, said the the fluid is burnt and that there may be a problem with the torque converter rather than internally in the transmission?
With that in mind I decided to get a second opinion and dropped it off to the Subaru dealership who then, after evaluation told me that not only is my trans fluid burnt but my line pressure is reading "Zero" and that no codes are being pulled up from the ECU. The service rep proceeded to tell me I needed a new trans and that it would cost me 6k. ( I just about chocked!) Then the price lowered to 2500 to 3k to rebuild or replaced with a remanufactured one.
The car seems to drive fine! I have been told to never replacing the trans filter...??? I'm not sure if there is damage to my trans or if I should just wait until something major happens? At this point I have trust issues with most shops trying to clean me out of excuses. I am smart enough to know who is telling me the truth or who isn't with a load of garbage to make some money on verbal fabrication.
Heres some questions I have...
1) I was thinking of another trans flush and adding Lucas as an additive to regain the life of the bands etc. Thoughts for adding Lucas trans treatment?
2) Subaru says never to replace the trans filter? When a transmission breaks down with metal "Sludge" or "Breakdown" who is to say that my filter isn't congested with such breakdown that filtering right now may be dificult?... Change the filter?
3)Torque Converter issues? I'm interested in knowing more!
Thanks,
Mud
-mike
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I appreciate your reply.
I know this isn't going to be cheap to have this taken care of should either or both be the cause. I'm also wondering if I managed to burn the fluid on one of my long drives possibly pulling my race bike? The car doesn't slip nor does it seem to pose any additional problems when driving it that I have noticed.
Any body have any responses to my other questions that I had?
Thanks
Chris
Sorry for not having a better answer for yah.
-mike
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We brought the car back to the Subaru dealer and they made some calls to Subaru. Apparently there is nothing that can be done at this time, however it seems to be a problem with the 2008's right now. They expect something to be done about it as soon as Subaru can figure the cause. We are to call back in two weeks to see if they have received anything on this problem. Will keep you updated.
Carol
-mike
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Ask your dealer about TSB 16-69-07.
Thanks!
When did you have the clutch last replaced? If it's original at 156k miles I'd say it may be the clutch.
Also have you drained/filld the transmission to see if there is any evidence of metal etc in there?
-mike
We haven't drained/filled the transmission. Hubby says that he has no doubt there will be metal in there due to the grind we've always had with R gear and the little bit of grinding from the recent issue prior to parking it. We haven't moved it since.
-cindy
Is this fan under the dash or under the hood? I would like to replace it because I have lived with the high setting for almost a year and cannot take it any longer. :mad:
Are you at a complete stop when putting it into R? R sometimes needs you to put it in 1 and then R to get into R because it's a straight cut gear.
I wouldn't be suprised if you need a trans replacement, luckily they are about $500-600.
-mike
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We have always had problems with R...even when it was brand new. Must be at a complete stop and shifts into R easiest if engine is off. Now recently have had a hard time shifting into 1st unless motor is off and VERY hard shifting into other gears over a week ago when I quit driving it.
The mechanic who replaced our clutch last time...about 8 years ago believes it is the clutch again and husband does not want to attempt to change it out, so we are taking it in to a shop tomorrow. This mechanic said that part of the clutch mechanism...pressure plate or shaft got dinged up when SOA replaced the original clutch under warranty less than a year after we bought it new.
We will ask the shop we are taking it to to check out the trans prior to replacing the clutch.
Thanks for the reply.
Do you know anything about the fan that blows A/C and heat into the car? Is this under the dash or the hood with the engine?
Reverse you always have to be at a stop to engage, on any stick subaru. 1st gear you also need to be stopped as well to engage it smoothly.
I believe the blower is under the dash for the HVAC.
-mike
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Yes, that is the case. It is located above and behind the glove box.
Car is at the shop for the clutch so I cannot go out and look.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for your responses! I really appreciate it.
What was the outcome of your issues? If you did "swap" out your car, I may now have your old one! I have an 08' OB 2.5XT that has 8K miles on it and it shifts hard between 2nd and 3rd. I just purchased it used from the dealer............they said the previous owner had a problem with a "clunking" noise when shifting from 2nd to 3rd and that the dealer could never duplicate the problem. I test drove it and it was fine, now it has the problem, I may take the car back.................Does anyone else have this problem?
I sold the car to Subaru of Santa Cruz. Where did you purchase the vehicle from? I originally bought it at Cypress Coast Subaru in Seaside and that car started to have a "HARD" shift b/w 2nd into 3rd gear. I fought with Seaside for over 3 months to get them to fix the problem, but they said that it was operating normal, BS! I then got referred to a Subaru Field Rep, Mike Pelky, who was suppose to represent Subaru Corp and handle the issue, but he told me the same garbage as the dealership, "it's operating under normal condition". I even thought about taking this to court by I don't have that kind of money. I then wrote a letter to Subaru Corparte (with a very frustrated tone) and worked with a sweet lady and her name is Jodi Cullen from Subaru Corp. After 3 more months of dealing with her, SUbaru Santa Cruz said that they could "sell the car" and I said fine just get me a new one! The new car DOES NOT have this problem. I could NOT stand the damn hard shift b/w 2nd into 3rd and trust me if you've only had the car a few weeks or so, it can get worse at times! Also, the car makes makes a weird noise up by the left windshield (like a clicking noise) when you make soft turns. Sorry I would contact Subaru Corporate, Jodi Cullen and tell her of this problem (trust me she will remember my case, since I dealt with her for over 3 months) her number is 856-488-3290. Also, talk with Bruce or Evan at Santa Cruz b/c they know that I had issues with the car but they were willing to make the trade.
I had auto transmission work done on it to replace the timing mechanism that engages the clutch (it looks kind of like a wagon wheel... can't remember what it's called). The transmission light is still on, according to the mechanic, because of an electrical issue not effecting the performance of the transmission. I'm not sure I believe him. Also I at the same time had some brake work done because the ABS light was on.
The problem is that this car is getting 14 mpgs! I have no idea why. It should be getting 20 mpgs city and it is not even close.
I have run fuel system cleaner through with no results.
Help!