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if you know it's a buyback, then every little nuisances that pops up is gonna make u regret u bought the car.
unless he's knocking off 50%... move on!
Good luck.
Same thing....... Bells and Whistled out to the gills........ Almost one of a kind....
GM BUY BACK.... What's the big deal about it? So what..... covered (insured) to the gills, as well.......
:confuse:
Any ideas...
Is this going to cause the value of GM vehicles to fall - probably. Will this last a long time? That likely depends on how quickly they emerge from chapter 11.
I bought an Encalve knowing this was a probable scenario in February. Am I worried? No. Should I be? That is really a question for the futurists among us.
The E is really such a fine automobile I am really enjoying every day driving it. If you buy one, I am confident that you will too.
Would it be reasonable to start with a lower beginning price than the dealer cash price - such as ??? - and then apply the discounts?
Also looking at a comparably equipped '09 CXL program car with 9,xxx miles at another dealership which I think is overpriced at $35,600 - This unit has been in
the dealer's inventory for nearly three months. Ideas as to what you should be able to close for on this one?
I got supplier pricing (sounds like you got that too) which I was happy with as it is a few hundred off invoice and I don't like to haggle. It is hard to say precisely what kind of deal you have without knowing the options on your Enclave. Good luck.
Any insight or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
2009 Buick CXL FWD
MSRP 43055
Dealer Discount - 2635
Factory Incentive -750
Total 39670 + TTL
Haven't negotiated any, told them I would think about it...was thinking about asking them to include dual headrest DVD players installed and would take it....or could I do even better? We live in a military community that really hasn't felt the effects of what has been going on elsewhere in the US.
Thanks in advance for your help!!
The vehicle i sent in the quote for was cocoa with leather
interior, with 2,2,3 seating with power sun roof, remote start, power liftgate, rear camera.
Sticker MSRP of $40490
Quote $36202 if you qualify for all available rebates
Am going to get new quotes but how does this seem. This was just an email request, no visit and haggling yet.
Quess could get better.
Any one have ideas???
I'm considering buying the Brenderup to haul my horses.
They are 1950 lbs. empty... with GVWR 5000...
No long distance... just local shows and trails...
Anyone ??
Thnx
Genie
MSRP $44,365
My price $40,360 + tax.
Current incentive= 0% up to 60 months or $2250 cash back.
I am torn between waiting for better incentives for the 2009 clearances or waiting a few months for the 2010s.
The problem is the 09s are getting harder to find with desired options.
Any opinions welcome.
Thank you
This is going to be your big challenge. I don't know how long you're going to have to wait for the offers on the 09s to get better, but by the time they do you'll have to take what is available. Only you know if that is OK. Good luck.
A local dealer in Central jersey is offering more incentives over the invoice price and the price comes to somewhere around 32,000. I guess this should be a better deal. Any suggestions?
Does anyone have some recent prices paid. I'm looking for a 2009 CXL AWD.
Many Thanks
I only have a telephonic conversation with a sales guy and did not visit personally. He wanted me to visit his showroom and in this process he might have thrown this number at me. I still am weighing my options.
Good deal/bad deal, thoughts?
P.S. Can't remember all the features it has so I'll list what it doesn't have:.
No sunroof, no navi/dvd sys, no BOSE, no folding rear view, no backup camera.
It has everything else and upgraded chrome rims.
They wanted to get us in an 09 but we couldn't get the features we wanted.
from FREEHOLD PONTIAC-BUICK-GMC TRUCK, INC.
they only had like 4 09 at the time.
got 0% so could not get the extra rebate at the time
They were very friendly and did not push at all.
Went we did the financing they did not even try to sell any extras
General Motors' core brands - Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC - will have a total of just 34 U.S. nameplates by 2010. This emphasis on fewer, better entries will enable the new GM to put more resources into each nameplate, resulting in better products and stronger marketing.
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MSRP: $46,465
Purchase Price: $40,947
Plus Tax, Tag, Title & Fees: $2,949
Less Rebates: $4,000
Out the Door Price: $39,896
This was then financed at 3.99% from PenFed. I put down an additional $1,800 for a payment of $701.43.
I really wanted to get this purchase in before the end of the month. I paid Employee pricing less $500 with the dealer fee ($650) waived as well.
Congratulations!
FWD or AWD? Can you please provide name of dealer?
Thanks.
Thanks for posting that article, it's very helpful. For some reason I missed that when doing my research online.
I actually think GM could consolidate into three core lines, I'm still confused at the diferentiation between the Chevy and GMC markets, but that's a whole different conversation.
I've really been trying to find a solid American car that we can purchase, and hope the Enclave works out. We still have some more test drives to do on other cars. Unfortunately for us (good for the dealer), they didn't have any Acadia's for us to test drive when we drove the Enclave. We're also looking a few other cars.
Thanks again!
We drove both Acadia and Enclave (among many others), but in my opinion between the two it comes down to styling. We liked the Enclave's styling better so we got an Enclave. The vehicles are virtually the same once you get inside. So much so my wife declared she liked the green lights on the dash and center console with the woodgrain in the Enclave over the Acadia's red dash lights, no woodgrain...yes it was that granular.
The Enclave is a bit quiter and claims to have a smoother ride. Both rode smooth to me so I couldn't tell much difference in that department. If both have leather there's not much difference inside. One of the Acadia's we drove had cloth seats but it was like a sport cloth or something, I actually really liked it and wouldn't have an issue with it vs. leather. Similiarly equipped we found there wasn't much difference in price for what we wanted.
I went to gmautobuilder.com/BuildYourOwn/ to try to find out what the supplier pricing is for the 2010 Enclave but it only lists the Lacrosse for 2010.
Anybody know how to find the supplier pricing for the 2010 Clave?
AWD CXL2 WDT
Thanks
At the last minute, I changed my mind and declined the factory rebate of 1750 in favor of the 0% financing. It was more savings in the long run but of course it took the price of the vehicle slightly over invoice. So, I wondered if I should have tried a little harder to reduce the sale price in the beginning, but C'est la vie. I do encourage everyone to pull out the calculator and crunch numbers with the accounting office. The final rate of payment was greater than the interest and principal combined. It left me thinking they were padding for extra profit. I also did Cash for Clunkers. At first they tried to tell me that my "clunker" was not one of the accepted vehicles. I had been to the Cars website and GM's website and both said that it was. I even printed out a copy of the voucher and presented it to the salesman. I held my ground and after leaving for a few minutes the salesman came back with a different answer. I believe they didn't want to do the clunker and were hoping that I didn't know better. They did refuse to give the salvage/scrap value of the vehicle. I called to report them to CARS for that. They are supposed to add that also.
The final thing that annoyed me was that the dealership offered me a gift card or free gas to return a "completely satisfied" evaluation. In order to get this, I must return the evaluation directly to the dealership, I can't mail the form straight to the factory. What a scam! I bet that no evaluations are forwarded unless they are completely satisfied. When I get mine I will mail it directly to the factory. It kills me they are so forthright with this. I asked him why should I mail it to them, instead of the return address on the envelope. He said because they get their bonuses based on receiving completely satisfied evaluations. Translation: If you have any comments to make that are less than glowing, mail them direct if you really want the factory to receive the comments.
All in all though, I absolutely love the car. No problems yet, but then I've only owned it for about a week. Another tip, I'm going to take my car to Best Buy or something. I can have the navigation system, rear cam and DVD player installed for about $600. A far cry from the price the 5K the factory wants for all of those upgrades.
Nechemia B.
It is pretty fully loaded -- entertainment package 4, nav/dvd, back up camera, white diamond color, etc.
Sticker is $47,905. Need to know what is a good price to offer. From what I'm reading, I shouldn't expect them to come down much from sticker...? I did the TMV report on Edmunds and it said:
MSRP: $47,140
Invoice: $44,007
What Others Are Paying: $43,876
Also, this is a "demo car" and it has 1,100 miles on it. Hoping that might help in the negotiation. We want the 0% financing, too.
Thanks for any help! We are going in tomorrow (9/5).
I called GM corporate. Supplier Pricing is a 'no haggle' price from both sides. Dealer gets to move the vehicle at a price that is below what we know as the Dealers Invoice plus the marketing costs that the dealer considers part of its invoice. GM reimburses the dealer for the amount below the Edmunds figure for dealer invoice plus marketing. Buyer gets the 'no haggle' deal but, once the buyer specifies that they qualify and will invoke it, can't get a lower price on the new car purchase. Once the buyer identifies the transaction is to be in the Supplier Pricing Program, the dealer also can't sell it for more than the program price. Apparently, there is only wiggle room for vehicles with a "Price Effective Date" that falls before some GM cut-off that resets with some monthly (?) frequency and appears to be 3 months prior to the effective date of the reset.
I understood GM corporate to tell me that there is no corporate constraint on pricing of deals NOT in the Supplier Pricing program -- the dealer can sell at whatever price is economically feasable for them to do so. If they can move their vehicles in the local market at Supplier Pricing, there is little motivation for them to haggle lower. In this market (not as much impacted by the recession), apparently they have confidence they can move them. In other areas hit hard by the recession, I suggest that there might be motivation to sell at a lower price than Supplier Pricing, but those deals have to be done outside of that program.
Of course, falling outside this Supplier Pricing talk are any national incentives -- those have no effect on dealer profit. Make sure when the salesman quotes you a price you find out whether it is before/after incentives, destination, etc. Also, of course, trade-in allowance can be adjusted to get the sale and does not seem affected by the corporate constraints on the new car price under the Supplier Pricing Program. The Supplier Pricing Program locks in an at-least invoice price for the dealer, and at an implied cost, provides the participant purchaser a no-haggle price. You the buyer get a rip-off but feel better about it.
After reading through my post, it might seem that I speak with authority. Consider there to be a question mark after every assertion. I am as lost as the next guy. Post what you know -- I need to learn! Remember that these dealers somehow get rich despite selling at some of the lowball deals reported in forum posts that would be eating into holdbacks.
MSRP $42,100
purchase price of $39,400 (500 below invoice and Edmunds TMV price)
less 2,000 incentive
less 500 cash incentive in lieu of 60 day guaranteed return program
final price $36,900 plus TT&L
Does this sound like a good deal?
I ma a techno-crat, so no problem with computers, functioning of my Enclave.
Oh yeah... it's CXL White Diamond, palomino leather, ... loaded to the gills.... can't load it with anything else, 'cept maybe a coffee maker!
Prieviously, I owned a Rendevous. I was able to chart my distance, but simply pushing a button... I would RE-SET it to ZERO. Then, when the Mapquest said 3.7, I was able to watch the meter till 3.7 miles. I cannot do this with the Enclave. Anyone out there experience this?
It was helpful having that function.
Thank You for the input.
bill
under the radio there are 4 buttons, first one is a check
press the forth one and the display in the center of the dash between the tach and speedometer will change. The second or third item is trip odimeter
to rest it press the check button
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