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http://jalopnik.com/5367077/2010-toyota-4runner-more-power-more-dents
Same headlights as stock. to make it legal on the road, they had to stick on some temporary replacements on the rear.
You think maybe they learned something with that design?
I was so hoping to see one of the new styles in person NOW. No luck yet.
Anyhow, I know not many of you are in Central Texas, but if you are and/or you know someone who is, we will have a 4Runner at our store tomorrow available to look at, drive, and get to know.
For more info, email me at dringler@donringlertoyota.com - dringler@donringlerchevrolet.com
PS - the aftermarket leather options are great. We do them all of the time and they look just like factory... unless you want to make them look otherwise. Yes, Purple Ostrich accents are available!
I had leather put in a Tundra and frankly it was of a poorer quality and felt harder and more coarse than factory. I wouldn 't do it again. It cost then around $1000 or so if I remember, so my guess it would be more now. That was many years ago. There may be some better stuff out now, but I would recommend actually seeing it before it goes on to be sure you would be happy with it. It wasn't worth the cost in my opinion.
If I get a Trail, I'll stick to the stock material.
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This is the video of the test on the Rubicon Trail. Looks like a tough truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-NheyAIR6I
I put up a few pics of the one we had at the store last week on our Facebook page ( http://www.facebook.com/pages/Temple/DonRinglerAutos/86493124904 )
The ride and handling is amazing and it looks great too!
Also, regarding the leather, it's changed a lot over the past few years. Its still around a grand, but has a better fit/finish than it used to. I have some pics and a video of some aftermarket leather in a couple of vehicles. If you'd like to see it, just let me know!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Comparing this new 4runner to the highlander, the fj, the lexus gx, this thing has best bang for buck! All nearly same size, similar price. Was focused on highlander, but not anymore! Cant wait to get my hands on this baby
I have been waiting for the 2010 new 4Runner for quite a while. This could be my first SUV. Basically I am looking for an SUV with some off-road ability, which can handle snow, rain, unpaved road/trails, and other non-extreme road conditions. For my current budget, it looks like the SR5 edition (4x4 V6) is the best among those three trims. Comparing the specs between them, I found none of them has the "Automatic Limited-Slip Differential (Auto LSD)"; SR5 doesn't have the "Full-time 4WD with Active Traction Control (A-TRAC) and locking center differential" as in the Limited; nor does it have "Locking rear differential, Multi-terrain select and Crawl Control" as in the Trail.
So my question is if the SR5 just looks tough or it is actually still a tough SUV comparing those popular crossovers. Thank you for any information!
I'm more of a Pink Leopard type of gal.
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I paid less than $400/month for my last 2 4runners both leased for 3 years, no money down with 15K miles/year. I priced out a 2010, the limited came to $690 and the SR5 with leather just over $600......yikes! The dealer was even giving me about $2K off sticker on each. So now I am stuck waiting until I can buy one or until lease prices come down. For poops & grins, I even priced out a 2010 Lexus RX350(List price about $43K), and it was cheaper.
I dont see lease prices being as affordable as they used to with banks still fighting the economical issues.
NV Voice-Activated Touch-Screen
- Navigation System with JBL AM/FM/MP3
- 4-Disc CD Changer (Replaces 6-Disc CD
- Changer), Integrated XM NavTraffic
- (Includes 90-Day Trial Subscription), and
- Integrated Backup Camera (Replaces Mirror
- Integrated Backup Camera Monitor)
WT Window Tint
RD Toyota Roadside Assistance
- (3 Yrs/36,000 Miles)
O5 Owner Rewards Package
- Cargo Cross Bars
- Remote Engine Start
- Premium Carpet Mat Set
- Carpet Floor Mats
- Rear Cargo Mat
- Stainless Steel Exhaust Tip
- Cargo Net
- Wheel Locks
AU Toyota Auto Care
MSRP: $41,377
In regards to leasing, I dont have any residuals yet, as I havent received the invoice, but I should be able to figure a lease on it that is 100% accurate in just a few days. I definitely dont want to guess beforehand.
We will have a white 2wd Limited here to look at on Tuesday (Nov. 3).... However, we may have our inbound stock unit here by then too! It is at the Vehicle Processing Center and may land by this weekend; if not, it should be here Monday or Tuesday.
I hope I've been of some help! As always, if you want me to check into something for you - dringler@donringlertoyota or dringler@donringlerchevrolet (the chevy acct goes straight to my phone, so I check it more often!)
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I dont know about other regions, but right now there are no Trail 4Runners allocated to any dealers in Gulf States Toyota, only SR5 and Limited 4Runners.
When they do come out, I would imagine that dealers will want to get them just as badly as customers.
Toyota, I think you blew it "big time" on your selection of the engine and by eliminating the V8 as an option.
here is an excerpt from a 2003 4runner review
" choice of two drivetrains is offered for the new Toyota 4Runner. A new, all-aluminum muscle-bound 4.0-liter V6 puts out 245 horsepower and 282 pound-feet of torque, numbers that would've been impressive for a V8 of that size not too long ago. It comes mated to a four-speed automatic transmission. Our tester had a V8, the same "i-Force" 4.7-liter mill used in the Land Cruiser, Sequoia and Tundra, not to mention a couple of Lexus models. A five-speed automatic gearbox comes with the eight. Although it corrals 10 less horses (235), it pumps out a stout 320 lb-ft of twist, which is more telling as it's torque that allows a vehicle to jump off the line and level hills with ease. And jump our 4Runner did, as it rushed to 60 mph in just 7.6 seconds and ran through the quarter-mile in just under 16 ticks, not bad for a 4,400-pound SUV. Gear changes were typical Toyota — velvety smooth — and the five well-spaced ratios make the most of the V8's power"
so yes the new 4runner is touch slower. but if want speed, you should buy a bmw x5, x6 or another car based suv
Were you test driving the 4 or 6 cylinder? Was it a 2 WD or 4WD?
wrt lack of availability on Trail, I am not surprised what so ever. Toyota has pigeon hole the buys into categories and have decided what level of refinement their Character would choose. I disagree.
I personally would not buy the Trail because of the looks (black this and that, fake scop hood, no rear bumper, no integrated running board to cover the frame) no avaliable leather, all season tires, beige interior (and black for Limited !). To make things worse you can’t even buy the X-RES or KDSS as an option on SR5. Can somebody tell me why?
Toyota could have simply offered an off-road package on SR5 and Limited. The SR5 and Limited do NOT even come standard with skid plates. Is this to say that these two trims are not off road capable? Characterizing the consumers again?
Really, how many of us care for Smart Key, button on the gate for glass, 4 cd changer instead of a hard drive and ipad docking station, backup camera on the tinny mirror that you can hardly see.
Offering smart package choices to the consumer will only increase their sales instead of ramming them options which they fully know consumers would often opt out for. They could simply package these options and see how many people would buy it.
Toyota has managed to maintain the reliable image as well as the decade old design and packaging decisions. Just compare the designs with Nissan models and you will see foryour self.
I would have love to see/own a Toyota designed by Nissan.
This could be the dealer's way of saying they really don't expect to sell many. Hate to say it, but Toyota blew it on this one!
I doubt this is the case. When a new vehicle comes out, the supply is always limited. I imagine that every dealer would take as many as Toyota would give them. I know I would! lol
I chose the 2005 4Runner over the 2005 Pathfinder and the Venza over the 2009 Murano. The Nissans were great; very competitive, but the Toyotas were the better pick for me. YMMV.
Nissan interiors have become a lot better generation-over-generation, versus the 4Runner's debatable decline (for example, hard dash plastic on the 5th Gen).
Really, how many of us care for Smart Key, button on the gate for glass, 4 cd changer instead of a hard drive and ipad docking station, backup camera on the tinny mirror that you can hardly see.
I do. Those are features that are becoming common -- maybe even expected. I wish they added a power liftgate as well, though it probably has something to do with the space the mechanism would require.
The funny thing about option packages is that there's no way to satisfy everyone. Packaging options minimizes variation, particularly for a relatively low-volume vehicle like the 4Runner. The difficulty is finding the optimum groupings that will satisfy the most buyers. No matter what, you won't fulfill every possible need.
They could simply package these options and see how many people would buy it.
That's exactly what they did. They packaged options and now we'll see if they made the right decisions. Just because they didn't package it the way you wanted it doesn't mean that they made the wrong decisions.
Maximizing profit is the name of the game, isn't it? The flip side of that is if a manufacturer packages options incorrectly and no one buys the vehicle for whatever reason, they have to discount and eat into their profit (or even lose money). There is an incentive for them to balance customer needs with the way they package options -- if people don't buy, they make zero profit.
I still prefer what Toyota and Nissan do with options versus what Honda does. Honda makes everything standard (no factory options) on a per model basis. Do you want leather? No choice, you have to get the EX-L model with a moonroof. Want Bluetooth? No choice, you have to get the EX-NAV model with a navigation system. That's packaging at the extreme, IMHO.
When the 4th Gen first launched, according to the review in USA Today, Toyota estimated that 70-80% would take the V6. I'd be interested in knowing what the actual split between 4th Gen V6 and V8 sales turned out to be. I wouldn't be too surprised if it was close to Toyota's estimate.
Toyota is betting that the 5th Gen 4Runner has the combination of features that most of their customers want at a price that most of their customers would pay. That's how you maximize profit.