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Not if you have signed a purchase contract that says otherwise. At least not in my state, where DOT says: If you sign a purchase contract at the dealership it is a binding contract. The dealer may charge you a penalty if you cancel the deal. By law, the penalty cannot be more than 5% of the purchase price of the vehicle.
Typically dealers here do make any deposit 100% refundable, but they certainly are not required to do so, if the contract says otherwise.
looks like it varies from state to state. the states where i've bought many new cars are very consumer-protecting. CA/MA/NH. CA also had a 3 day period *after* the delivery where you can change your mind,turn in the car, and get your $ back!
VIN from a nearby dealer: 3VWTM71K99M300122
3V=Mexico
SN-ST=Germany
Save yourself the hassle and buy a Rabbit, GTI, or Passat Wagon instead.
The TDI had a 28 customer waiting list with a $500 hold to have one ordered. It would be 3 mo before I would even get one. :mad: The price started at $25,500 with a $1150 add on "for profit" as it was stated, $690 delivery fee plus tax etc ending up at 29,000, out of my budget!!! The are are only two dealerships here owned by the same guy. I thought I would wait a couple of years and see how things pan out with the TDI's.
I hope to have the car for a long time so the features make a big difference and well worth the extra $$$.
The TDI simply blew me away - fantastic engine great milege the 6spd manual was pure joy. I have hated VW's for a long time but the new Jetta TDI has really changed my mind. The sport wagon is very high on my shopping list even though I really - really want AWD. I might just spring for the sport wagon TDI seems like a fantastic value for the money.
Granted the leather thing is a big of a snag for me also the leatheret isn't really cutting it.
But for the price its really hard to beat. What 6spd car exists thats sub 30K price tag? Let alone a snappy TDI option etc.
The gas price vs diesel price argument doesn't fly even with a fairly large spread in the price per gallon - do the math!
I still can't believe I'm all excited about a VW - I vowed never to own one again after my last experience. The TDI is the only reason I'd get the Jetta.
2001 Subaru GT Sedan 5spd - 150,000 miles on it its been flawless dispite towing sailboats all over the country - crazy back country camping trips on miles of less than ideal dirt roads - big snow weekends in Tahoe etc.
2001 Jetta 1.8T - 5spd 50,000 miles looks new - Ok car but not comfortable - terrible back seat - quality issues etc. Power delivery has the effect of a rubber band which is quite annoying even in a 5spd manual.
Past cars 4runner - Ford Truck - VW Dasher - Peugot 505TD 5spd - slow but not as slow as the 300TD mercedes. Pulled like a tractor probably because it had a tractor engine in it.
Test drove a few toyotas last week including a Mini Cooper and the Subaru Impreza. The Jetta TDI for the price is pretty impressive. Fantastic 6spd manual I liked the feel etc. Shoot I freaking hate our 1.8T not fun to drive - not fun to ride in not even close to the same car the 09 Jetta is.
The TDI is suppose to get 30MPG's in the city, right? At today's gas prices that would save $30/month vs. the SEL model. hmmm I guess I would just have to ask myself if power/memory, leather seats, 17" tires, dual air, and steering wheel controls are worth the extra $$$. (By the way, the steering wheel controls are a pretty weak feature on the SEL. It has a blue tooth button that the dealer told me isn't compatible in the US. The radio buttons that change the channel basically just scan to the next station - not your pre-programmed stations. So it's certainly nothing special.) I think I'd just hate to give up the power/memory leather seats...
Anyway, thanks for your input on the TDI, you've definitely given me more to think about.
Now dealer tells me before the end of the year ..but probably late November 08
Seems like production of sportswagon diesels for the year will not meet demand
price@ msrp only with no other dealer installed garbage
I highly recommend keeping tabs on all your local dealerships to see if one of them gets a color like the one you ordered. You would think after placing an order, the dealership would be checking this out for you....but it's not the case. They just move on and don't think about the order again until it comes in.
Anyway - I never had a chance to test drive the TDI after-all (non of the local dealerships had one), but the SEL is pretty fun. Good luck!
Sunroof:
Have always had sunroof on past cars and am looking at one with new Panoramic sunroof. Any help on noise concerns besides the usual vacuum related issues that are often alleviated by cracking a window? Plus concerned over only mesh cover for two reasons: (1) heat and (2) noise. Have only had harder cover that provides significant noise and heat reduction when closed versus just the sunroof closed - noise reduction from just driving down highway and especially when have skis, bike or cargo box on top, heat (and glare) reduction when parked or very sunny out.
Navigation system:
Have had OEM systems and portable GPS units. Like both, obviously portable is easy to take from vehicle to vehicle. Am looking at new Jetta Sportwagen with DVD/nav system. How hard is it to do firmware upgrades?? Cost?? And, specs state DVD only works when car is in Park, which makes sense except that presumably passengers could be watching when car is in motion. Seems crazy to only work when in park and burning up fuel or battery. Does this make sense??
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Their deliveries had been snapped up within a few hours of arrival at the dealership, but supply situation should improve down the road. I hope the demand would still be there when they figure out what to do about it.
He was telling me about a customer who drove up from Virginia (to N.E. PA) to pick up his TDI wagon as it was being unloaded from the truck.
Not in a big hurry, but you as you can imagine, I'm getting tired of waiting sometimes. Patience, my child. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Well for nav updates you update via DVD. The RNS-510 isn't that hard to update. It does take 1 to 2 hours to update. However you should get the latest version of map from navteq. Updating can be daunting but thats how it works. It has to download the DVD data to the hard drive. Once it's done loading you never have to use the DVD again.
As for DVD while driving there are TV free adaptors. The TV free adaptor works with the new RNS-510. I can't post links to them but there are some german sites that sell them. The RNS-510 supports high end DVD Audio Discs that are more expensive but selection is limited. DVD's filled with MP3's can be played and ripped with this system.
Lots of good technical information which may be daunting, but should help you in your decision.
I ended up finding the exact SEL that I ordered 3 weeks later at another dealership and requested that my dealer have the car dealer swapped, so I wouldn't need to wait. So I was lucky and received the car the end of October.
The SEL is great!!! I went back and forth re-thinking if I should get the TDI, but the features of the SEL are hard to pass up. Only the SEL has: all power + memory drivers seat (which really makes a big difference; especially if you valet or ever share the car with another driver), real leather interior (not such a big difference), 17inch alloy tires, turbo engine (a ton more power that what I need), dual air (which works better than the standard air - not sure why but test it and you'll see for yourself) and radio controls on the steering wheel (a safety feature I appreciate).
Sometimes I still question if at 29k, I should have considered the Passat wagon or the Audie A4 - but I would have had to spend a lot more to have the exact same engine and features I have with the SEL. So I still think I made the right decision.
......that last sentence is a keeper!!
Replacing my venerated 1982 Rabbit Diesel Pickup with a nice 50-states legal TDI JSW seemed like a good idea. Still does.
The IRS rebate is good until 12/2010 (or until VOA sells 60k TDI units).
The pickup still runs great.
Local dealers are charging a premium here in the great central valley.
Again, waiting until the dust settles sounds like a plan.
best, ez....
Where is the Tiguan TDI? The sportscar? The ultra hi-mpg tricycle car? The Audi TT tdi? VW is losing me, unfortunately...
I have not driven the sportwagon but would like to. I was told they drive "exactly" like the dsedan but that came from dealers.
Any other suggestions on the SEL vs the TDI. I am really into the "green" thing so the TDI seems the way to go.
Peace
Other than that, I can say having the SEL for five months, it's a pretty cool little ride. It's fun, fast and comfortable.
Hope that helps!
I have been told to work with this dealer in PA, fly there, get to know the car by driving it home and on and on. Because I am in Salt Lake City, dealing with a health issue, I have not jumped n those offers from other dealers i the East.
The dealers in Salt Lake City or ones within 50 miles, have either lied too many times, I have not wanted to play their games, do not have the extra money to buy their services, and on and on.
I would still like one of these cars but what is happening in 2010? Is thee a better TDI coming out? Any thoughts, suggestions on alternative cars? Not a Honda Civic hybrid, not a Honda Fit Sport, not a Toyota Prius...
Is it unrealistic to try and find a JSW TDI with a panoramic sunroof, 17" alloy tires and wheels, a Navi system? Why do the TDI know-it-alls label me a game-player when I say I am looking for this car with these features? is it not possible to get the TDI the VW website lets you build?
When should I order? and will there be any 2009 inventory left?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I really like the screen on the sunroof and my impression is that in combination with the UV-blocking glass, the sunroof does not contribute to heating the interior of the car. Plus the light coming through the shade is really lovely.
I don't think it's possible to copy an audio CD directly onto the hard drive of the navigation system, but you can copy MP3s off a data CD, or use an SD card (limited to 2GB). It also comes with a USB interface cable, but you can't copy from a USB device. An iPod cable is about $50. VW seems to be updating the software from time to time and there's even a new feature for adding new destinations via Google Maps available at vwlabs.com.
Thanks for your response!
That plus the sunscreen should provide sufficient shading in the Florida sun, no?
I'm personally looking for a white/beige TDI wagon w/ nav and panoramic roof. Dealer said bluetooth will be standard equipment on TDI for 2010, but Mexico plant is closed for retooling until Aug and 2010 TDI wagons wont arrive til mid Oct.
Another issue is the extra cooling vent on the top of dashboard - when A/C is operating it fogs up the windshield from outside - in the Florida humid climate. I am planning to replace that vent with a storage tray that is available in Europe (and sold by a company in San Diego) similar to what Subaru Forester has.
As to bluetooth, I have hard wired Motorola bluetooth and placed it next to panoramic control knob and that only cost 35.00; i.e. close to where you talk. I have also hard wired Garmin GPS on the dash/left side and hardwired to the fuse box that is directly beneath. Both of these are considerably cheaper than getting them on the car as options not to mention the portability (you can get them out on a trip or when you switch cars).
Ditto for the trailer hitch (which I had installed by a hitch dealer) since it requires a complicated mounting, lowering exhaust, etc.) but the wiring of the hitch I did myself (wiring module costs about $ 50.00 but the hitch dealer asked for over $ 200 for wiring module on top of the cost of the hitch, which costs appx $ 225.00 incl. labor) as I don't trust the installers skills to tap the VW wiring.