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Honda CR-V Handling and Alignment
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We have 25000 miles on the car and the front tires are bald on the edges from the pulling. This morning while looking for the best tires to purchase for the CRV, I came across all these posts chronicling the pttr issue. I never knew a service bulletin had been put out about this exact problem. I looked online and found it (it was published a month after I had purchased my car, the dealership should have been aware of how to fix this problem).
I just called Honda about this issue and explained my situation. They said that since I was four months over the warranty period they would not fix the problem. They said I could take it to a dealership AND PAY to have them diagnose the problem. Then once the problem is diagnosed I have to submit a claim to Honda and then a case manager will decide whether to fix the vehicle or not. The rep made a point to stress at least 3 times during the call that there is a good possibility it will not be paid for. I pointed out that it would be cheaper for me to go to a non-Honda repair facility and just have it fixed, he agreed.
I explained that I was sold a defective vehicle and that it should be repaired regardless of the warranty, he did not seem to agree. I intend to consult a lawyer about this situation. The moral of my story is...make sure you take care of this issue within the warranty period!! This IS a known problem with the CRV and if the dealership is incompetent and unaware of the service bulletin print it out and take it in to them. It is a real shame, Honda is willing to soil its name for a meager repair. :mad:
Please & thank you
teresimo
Thank you thank you thank you.
Teresimo
The owners manual for the 2009 CRV is now available online, and it shows an alignment spec change compared to the previous years of this generation.
Basically, they pretty much doubled the positive caster spec from about 1.5 degrees to about 3 degrees. Usually, higher caster means more directional stability, but higher steering effort. This may be what the TSB does, as relocating the upper mounts is how the normally set the algnment, but it doesn't say in the TSB what the alignment specs are.
Do you notice a difference if you are:
Holding steady speed with the gas pedal
Coasting/slowing down in gear, but no gas
Accelerating
Coasting in neutral
How it behaves in these different cases would probably indicate what is not right, and perhaps how to fix it. Honda calls out for zero toe and zero camber, so you can get some very funny things happening if things are off a little, and power on/power off can put you back and forth through the zero point.
We need to get this fixed!!
At 10,000 mileage not to much to complain about. They manual seat adjustment does not hold, sinks to the bottom, just like my 2003 Accord. That's about it though.
I expected a bumpier ride but the vibration makes me want to park it for any long road trip.
Is it me?
I would check if a drive shaft is bent, or a bearing is busted.
Took the vehicle to the dealer and have the technician looked at it, local and freeway road test confirmed the problem. With freeway more obvious than local.
The technician did all they can (check tire inflation and balance), now we don't notice the problem when driving local, and the drift is not as severe on freeway.
But the problem still presents. What concerns me is that the technician says this happens quite often for CR-V. He road tested a brand new 09 CR-V, and it has the same problem. I hope Honda can do something about it, people pay good money on their CR-V, and the vehicle should not have big problem like this. If potential buyers know this problem beforehand, it definitely would affect the purchase decision.
Anyone here have that issue?
Thank you.
I bouthg a CRV 2009 - O miles.
2 week later the car started pulling to the rigth.
We went to the dealer 4 times.
They fix their computer - Nothing
They make aligment - Nothing
They changed tires - Nothing
They test the air - Nothing
They offered to tes a new crv and the same problem Happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally, after 6 hours of discution, they recognized the problem with CRV and we have to contact HONDA to solve the problem. The dealer can not do anything for us.
We decide to put a sign in our car
DO NOT BUY HONDA 2009 CRV
(MANUF. PROBLEMS)
OWNER OF THIS CAR.
We hope it will help futures buyers.
Sorry about my english. and thanks.
Have read a few Honda CR-V forums and this issue reported is not wide spread as the 2002 thru 2006 air compressor problems is. Me thinks its here and there on some of the vehicls....
Actually when cruising, I find it requires less steering input that our '08 Altima. The only time it veers right or left is due to the crown of the road.
I'm guessing it's an assembly problem, defective part or a combination of the two that causes this problem on a very small number of models.
My question is: How bad is the noise inside the cabin at highway speeds? As far as I am concerned this is a weak spot in my current CR-V; the cabin is just plain noisy when you get to highway speeds. How is the sound proofing in the newest generation?
Thx
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2010-honda-cr-v.htm
Wheel noise was pronounced on rough roads but on smoother roads it was about as noticeable as my 2008 Accord. Passing other vehicls and flooring it did produce a harsher engine noise but this too is expected in a 4 cyl vehicle.
Ride was very much like a sedan unless you take corners to fast and must be careful.
Will take a longer test ride with the 2010 model when they arrive some time in mid to late October.
Shaking while braking is most likely a warped rotor. Warpeed rotors are often caused by improper toqueing of the lug nuts. Rotor resurfacing may help temporarily, but evnetual rotor replacement is needed, and paying close attention to lug nuts torque and sequence of application.
Shaking at certain speeds is most likely caused by a lost balancing weight. Some times parking too close to curbs, or some car washes knock them loose. Wheel balancing is needed.
Good luck.
What's the tire pressure?
Road noise depends on the surface of the road itself. Some are smooth thus quit but some street surfaces are rough or course and the noise is more pronounced but tolerable.
Noise is pretty subjective. I find my CR-V acceptably quiet at freeway speeds on good quality roads. But it doesn't compare well to a mid-size passenger car if road quality is poor. Plus, it's short wheelbase can make for a choppy ride on some roads.
Still, short of buying a Lexus, some compromises are necessary.
A lot of the road noise is dependant on the tires, but also the noise insulation. To save weight, CR-V has next to none. There are enthusiasts who have installed Dynamat and sound proofed the vehicle.
Another option is to install a head unit radio from Honda Oddysey or Acura MDX, both of which have active noise cancelling technology. Think of noise cancelling headphones, but instead of wearing them on your head, the anti-noise is fed through the car speakers.
Many of the luxury makes do this to minimize weight, but maintain the quietness of the cabin.
1) If the problem was addressed during the warranty period and not fixed, it will be covered by the warranty when the vehicle is out of warranty. So, there is no reason for the dealer to wait for the warranty to expire. It is not like they do warranty repairs for free. They still get paid, by Honda corporate.
2) Rear differential in 2005 and newsr CR-V's is more sensitive and a lot quicker to engage than the original CR-V differential. Even that one required fluid replacements at 60,000 miles as per the OWNER's MANUAL, not 100,000 miles. The new one requires fluid replacement based on the maintenance minder system or every 30,000 miles.
If you don't perform maintenance as prescribed, don't be surprized if the vehicle does not last as long.
If you don't want to pay the dealer or anyone else for the maintenance, learn how to do it your self. It is 19th century technology, so anyone who can operate a 20th or 21st century technology, should have the physical and mental capacity to repair 19th century technology.
Now, when driving up the freeway to ski, the vehicle has a bit of a 'shudder' at higher speeds (70 km/hr). This is with winter tires on rims that haven't been rebalanced since being installed.
Any comments as to cause? I can think of unbalanced tires or wheel alignment issues and the recent engine work is just coincidental but I saw a reference in another discussion to a problem with the engine mount causing 'shudder' problems... I don't notice anything at lower speeds.
Thanks for any thoughts.
Any idea's on what I should check for ? I'm thinking something happened when they were changing oil up on the lift. I checked the steering fluid, not a problem.
It's under warrenty so I'm going to continue to go back.
Thanks for any help,
ED,
Orlando Florida