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  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Juice - Depends on who you ask. We play the mileage game over on other forums and the 2.4L versions seem to be just as efficient as the 2.0L. This week, we have some folks with low mileage. A few months ago, we had several 2002 owners posting 30 mpg. For a while, it looked like the EPA had under-rated the highway rating for the 2.4L models.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Sounds good.

    If anything, you gotta look at the big picture. SUVs often get 12-16mpg, including compacts, so anything in the 20s is a blessing.

    -juice
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    What kinda mileage did that beast get?
  • atthebeach1atthebeach1 Member Posts: 5
    With over 28,000 miles my mileage has varied from my high of 28.7 (back road mountain cruising 50-60 mph) to 21.8 in the snow for 3 days around town with alot of 4-wheel engagement on that tank. That said my average is 24.2. I keep a written detail with each fill-up and have changed the oil at 5k intervals. I have a 02 EX 5 spd. My other cam (vtec) gets engaged many times on each fill-up but I do tend to roll to stop lights not in gear. I think my mileage is improved because of the dark green color so if you have a silver one, that loses 1-3 mpg. :-)

    I usually fill-up when I need around 13.5 gallons which translates into over 300 miles. Sure wish I had a 20 gal tank and get 15 mpg so I could have a better range vehicle. Just joking, it is all about what makes you feel good. Hope everyone enjoys there CR-V as much as I do.

    ATB
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    I have 28,000 miles on my 2002!

    atthebeach1,
    Is yours a 2002?
  • atthebeach1atthebeach1 Member Posts: 5
    Yes it is a 2002 which I purchased 12/08/02, the first 5 spd of my dealers allotment.

    I thought I was the only one who puts alot miles on my ride!

    ATB
  • vickiebvickieb Member Posts: 7
    Well I could usually squeeze 360+ miles out of a tank of gas. MPG?? Hmmm you tell me I'm not sure, math wasn't one of my strong subjects. When I sold the "Beast" she only had 122k miles on her. A little secret the only reason why I got that dodge was because of the mistubishi engine. The only original part that wasn't on it when I sold it was the water pump and the gas pump. Not bad for an American car with a foreign engine tucked in it.
  • angelbugsfangelbugsf Member Posts: 5
    I bought a 2002 CR-V last winter without realizing that the Hollywood bike racks that fit MOST rear door-mounted spare tires WON'T fit over the CR-V's spare because as of that model year, the tire has been recessed close in to the windshield, so that the wiper arm won't permit the bike carrier bar to fit behind the tire.

    Does anyone know of another brand of bike rack that will actually fit this model year? Our local bike shops (and I live in Davis, CA, so there are more bike shops than car dealers!) don't seem to know of one. I'm a 98-lb. weakling (well, ok, a 122-lb. weakling) and can't deal with putting two bikes on and off the roof all the time.

    Thanks.
  • crv139crv139 Member Posts: 41
    i have the the honda bike racks for the crv that go on the roof you will need to purchase the cross bars . they work very well . Honda's bike rack is made by thule.
  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    I don't know of any that will fit over the spare tire. Have you considered adding a trailer hitch and getting a hitch mount rack?

    Good luck.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    I agree, I think most people's concerns are not primarily gas mileage, rather cruising range. A larger tank would solve many people's complaints about mileage.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Hopefully Honda is listening...

    -juice
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    Just got off the phone with my sales person. I signed my purchase agreement 11/20 and I'm still waiting for my blue or black 2003 EX CR-V. Gave him a call to see what the status was and this is what he says:

    Honda has thousands and thousands of CR-V's sitting in California waiting for delivery BUT, there is a part they are replacing on ALL of them. It supposedly takes 15 minutes to make this switch but, they are not letting ANY of them go until they are fixed.

    Valves or brakes? I wonder. Happy to get it fixed now than to worry about it later!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Must be some recall.

    This after the ports were a mess a while ago, supply has been short lately.

    -juice
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    kinda narrows it down. can't be anything too major.
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    Who know though? That could be the corporate line. I know for sure my local Honda dealer could make that a 1 hour job!

    Anyway it could be a computer mod to prevent the valve problem?
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/5best/2002
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Could be they forgot to install the extra coat hook for the '03 model. =)
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    which valve?
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Exhaust. Cyl # 4 is the only specific one I've seen listed.
  • andriesandries Member Posts: 37
    Have been doing a little research into this valve problem. Talked to a couple of my mechanics, along with a couple of Honda Service people. Both gave me the same answer,which was also my theory. But before I post any theorys, I would like to hear from a few people that are having these problems, and where you are located.
    Thanks
  • matt479matt479 Member Posts: 26
    Could it be something that causes the "Check Engine" light to come on? Isn't that something relating to a failed O2 sensor?
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Back when the '02 model was first introduced, there was a problem with the emissions software. Under very specific conditions, the O2 sensor would register a false error and the check engine light would come on. Honda corrected that a while back (May, I think).

    Is that what you were thinking of?
  • angelbugsfangelbugsf Member Posts: 5
    theracoon, the bike shops did mention going the trailer hitch route, but it's more expensive for me since I don't have a hitch installed already. However, it might be the only way for me to go since they movved the spare in so close to the windshield in 2002.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    the only info I have seen is regarding the previous generation CRV's, not the current gen. The engine is new, do you guys think the valve problem migrated over to the new engine?
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
    I doubt that a problem that specific would appear on two completely different engines.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    This is one of the problems with internet-based research. You have to look really closely to see what is actually happening. In some threads only one person has reported the problem, but a dozen others reply with advice, concerns, or simply statements of disbelief. Some just reported symptoms that were similar to those of the valve issue, but not actual valve problems. It makes it look like a hotter topic than it really is.

    To date, I am aware of three owners who have documented similar valve issues at relatively low mileage. Certainly, these people and others may have a real problem. I've counted several more who have symptoms that sound similar, but have not been linked specifically to valves. I haven't bothered with the posts from people who are just flabbergasted by the subject.

    I'm hoping that folks here will take advantage of the request mentioned a few posts back and list their specific problem and experience (not speculations). Then we can compare it with the information that poster appears to have from his sources. I know that the CR-V Engineer responsible for designing fixes surfs/lurks this and other CR-V threads.
  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    What Varmint said.

    :)
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    Well, if the CR-V engineer fixit guy is lurking, why my V is stuck in CA? What's the skinny? The hold up? The scoop? I want my V!!!

    Thank you, I am waiting patiently...sort of.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    You got that information from a dealer, right?

    What do we say about trusting dealers? =)

    To answer your question about our engineer friend, he is only an engineer. Not superman. He is responsible for designing fixes for problems. That does not mean he can completely understand the problem and fix it in 10 seconds flat. He works with service records, not rumors. If anything, reading these boards (with many people reporting variations on problems), may only confuse the true issue. That's why I hope people will stop speculating and stick to the facts.

    Furthermore, he and Honda are not solely responsible for the time it takes to implement changes. Using the O2 sensor problem as an example... Changes to emissions software have to be approved by the US gov't before they can be put into use. Hello red tape. Would you be happy if they provided new valve adjustments which only made the problem worse? They need time to test it. Then there is simply the business of retooling the factories which make the parts and logistical factors.

    Bottom line: It's complicated.

    BTW, isn't your's an '03 model? The valve issue is for the 97-01 engines. (See how screwy these rumors can get?)
  • crv139crv139 Member Posts: 41
    has anyone purchase the honda extended warranty,and had to use any of the services? I can purchase for a 7yr /75000 mile policy for $750 is it worth it.
  • jamess1234jamess1234 Member Posts: 1
    i have test driven 2 crv with 4 wd drive. At hwy speeds i hear a wheering noise coming from the vicinity of the back seat. Anyone know what may be the cause of this.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    could be the drive shaft going to the rear wheels. I notice a faint sound in mine too. It doesn't bother me, though.
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    My V is in. Putting on the cladding (wife proofing) and front splash guards. It'll be in my driveway Monday evening.

    My local Honda dealer isn't open on Saturdays! I just don't get the logic in that. Personally, I think they should maintain showroom hours of 9-5 and stay opened on the weekends. I think that would work better than 9-9.
  • jtn46jtn46 Member Posts: 13
    Still waiting on mine, I'm in the window they gave me now, and getting nervous. Dealers here in New England are usually open until 8pm during the week, and do a 9-5 on Saturdays, and some even open on Sundays until about noon.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It may make you feel better to vent, but you'll get results quicker if you call the Honda 800 number and maybe register your issue with the NHTSA on-line. They need to document the problem to be able to address it.

    Extended warranties can be worth it when you consider that you also get roadside assistance, a free loaner for service, and red carpet treatment from the dealer.

    No matter how reliable the brand, one major repair and it's paid for. My Escort's A/C was $700 to fix (condensor). Our 626's wheel bearing was more than $800.

    -juice
  • andriesandries Member Posts: 37
    They tell me on the 2002 when the defrost mode was selected the air conditioner came on, so when you went to floor heat mode you had to shut the air off. Our 2003 the air conditioner light does not come on when in defrost mode. They tell me they have changed this in the 2003. Would like to hear what the rest of you CR-V owners, are finding with your units. Thanks!!
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    That's how mine works. Leaving defrost mode doesn't return you to not having the A/C on, even if you didn't have the A/C on before you went to defrost mode. It's supposed to help keep the windows from fogging up.

    I hadn't heard that they changed this for 2003, but I have heard about a "fix" that lets you turn the A/C off when in defrost mode. Some people think this also returns you to your previously selected A/C mode, but I haven't tried it to see.
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    crv139 - I bought the 7/75 warranty, $705 from Honda online ... probability of using it may be small but: (1) will be able to save $40/year dropping AAA, (2) plan to sell/trade-in after 5, 6 years at the most ... transferable should add significant amount in resale value.

    Well, that's how I rationalized it :-)
  • inkieinkie Member Posts: 281
    What kind of a CRV do you have? Is it specially made? I thought they were front wheel drive cars and they don"t have driveshafts to the rear, or are you just checking to see if people read posts?
  • arkydogarkydog Member Posts: 50
    A nice person on this thread published the A/C override (fix) a couple of months ago -- check back to find it. It works great and is reversible, since all you are doing is re-setting a factory setting.

    My 02 LX was confusing the h--- out of me with that auto A/C always On in Defrost mode -- it just wouldn't go away when I changed settings! Now I understand what's going on.

    The pre-set on CR-V for Heat/Defrost will always begin with A/C ON when you switch to one of the Heat settings, but the fix will allow you to cut off A/C whenever you want to. Cutting the fan on or off and back on will not cause A/C to cut back on once you have cut it OFF, even if you remain in one of the Heat/Defrost settings. A/C will only cut back on if you switch settings (like Vent) and go back to a Heat/Defrost setting.

    Now I just quickly cut off the A/C when I start up the car and whenever I switch from Vent to Heat in cold weather.

    Don't know what the change is on 03s.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Inkie - CR-V's with RT4WD have a driveshaft running from the transmission to the rear differential. That's how the rear wheels get power. This shaft is constantly spinning, though it doesn't power anything until the clutch packs in the rear diff lock up.
  • dave_cldave_cl Member Posts: 54
    poster #10000!
  • dave_cldave_cl Member Posts: 54
    Fasteddie (among others) posted the skinny.

    Look here:


    /direct/view/.ee94ff9/7043


    (message 7044)

  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Congratulations!!

    tidester, host
  • andriesandries Member Posts: 37
    Thanks man. But I have a feeling Honda made a change like I was told. My 2003 when you put it on defrost the ac light does not come on, but the fan is running. As soon as you switch it to floor or vent the fans stop running. Would like to hear from other 2003 owners.
  • inkieinkie Member Posts: 281
    Thank You for explaining the RT4WD to me. Never had a 4WD, never gave any thought to how it receives power.So now I know why the rear end has fluid in it! My post will surely enlighten others.

    Robmarch, Sorry for the stupid questions.
  • orangelebaronorangelebaron Member Posts: 435
    Can a steel bar be attached to the back of a new CR-V so it can have a bumper to keep you from pushing the tire into the tailgate or backing into someones hood? I've seen this on RAV4's.
    As it is now, the CR-V has no real rear bumper and I might buy one if there was a way I could remedy that.
  • gary_williamgary_william Member Posts: 52
    WAAG supposedly has made a rear bumper guard for the '02-'03 (finally), but I do not know how far out it extends. You may wish to get a trailer hitch and mount something there, like a carrying platform. that way, the person who hits you in the rear would hit the platform and not the tire. 'course, youd have to weigh the preference of damage to the tire and hatch door versus the possibility of damaging the frame from a whack to the hitch or bumper guard. Sounds like 6 and two threes.
  • tugboat1tugboat1 Member Posts: 21
    Stock 15" wheels sounds a bit wimpy for this ride. Anyone who has put on aftermarket 16" shoes, please comment.
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