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Saturn VUE

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  • If you get a look, please post your impressions!
    I went to a Saturn dealer in Albuquerque, NM a week ago. They said they had 5 Vues coming in Oct sometime, 4 had been sold and the dealer was to keep one as a demo. They also mentioned a traveling demo of Vues, but that Albuquerque was not on the list.
    I did look at a 2002 Saturn L station wagon, silver color, leather interior, and pretty nice vehicle. Gave me hope the VUE could be quite nice. I have the VUE on my list, along with a variety of others. The Dodge Dakota quad cab is to be restyled for 2003, and I believe it will get the same V6 the Jeep Liberty now has (210 hp vrs current 170 hp V6 in Dakota). Honda CR-V and Forester will be re-done, too, among some other new entries, including--maybe--the new and improved VW "micro" bus.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    You are right, there are going to be so many new choices come 2002. It's going to get even worse in the years to come with more and more cute-utes. and crossovers. I guess it's all good for the consumer if you can sort through all the hype.
  • Just got the Oct 2001 Car and Driver magazine. The VUE is on the cover, and there is a multi-page report with pictures and specifications. Looks to be pretty nice vehicle, perhaps a good competitor to the Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute. Might even outdo those vehicles, what with a 5 speed auto. I await a real live Vue to kick the tires. Am also following the Jeep Liberty discussions, among others. I would like a vehicle that is a good travel/adventure rig. I am not a "rock crawler", but ability to take some remote roads would be nice. I have even considered a Honda Odyssey. The 2002 Odyssey will have 240 horsepower, and decent gas mileage, plus lots of room and comfort. Don't know about ground clearance, however. Time will tell....
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Just saw pictures and a write up of the new CR-V in the Toronto Star today. Looks to be a much better truck that the old. That said, there is still no V6 option which is odd.

    I will check out the new C&D. Thanx for the info.
  • jmaterojmatero Posts: 253
    You know, when the original Saturns came out, I was blown away with how un-detroit like they were...I loved them. However, they have only gone downhill since then. In fact, while I love the Saturn concept and would love to buy one, the plasticy look/feel of the interiors is what kept me from even TEST DRIVING any of them... after all, that's where you spend most of your time right? In fact, I bought a Passat because after sitting in a new L-series, the passat was like a Benz or lexus inside (quality of materials). Well, I was hopeing the new VUE would have a quality looking interior, but after sitting in one at the NY auto show, they materials (on the dash at least) are still all that light cheap plastic... even the Santa-fe's materials feel more substantial. I mean, the exterior of the VUE really is refreshing and actually "moves" me on an emotional level but once you sit inside, I just keep thinking "appliance". Is it a budget issue or something? I mean, the new Liberty (and I'm NO chrysler fan let me tell you...) is absolutely STUNNING considering it's in the same price range as the VUE. What ever you think of the Liberty, when you SIT in it and close the door, you feel like you're in a $40,000 high-end vehicle and from what I've been reading in the other SUV forums, that was the deal-breaker in most cases when cross shopping. The folks who don't buy Escapes and go for the competition ALWAYS point to the interior and comment "YUK" or "CHEAP" or "UNINSPIRING". I guess Saturn is hoping the Dealer service will make up for the dash.
  • jrs7jrs7 Posts: 12
    You really hit the nail on the head. I was waiting for the VUE to come out and did see one in a show. I test drove the escape, Honda CRV etc. then got into a Jeep Liberty. What a difference. You canreally see and feel the Daimler influence which is not a bad thing. The dash is beautiful and well made, the doors snick closed like a much more expensive car and it drives tightly with a European feel. I bought the liberty and have enjoyed every one of the 500 miles I have on it so far. I love Saturn, had one in the past, but I hope they do not stumble here.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Do you have the V6? How has the gas mileage been? I have heard that is one of the bad things about the Liberty. Otherwise, it seem like a very good value for the buck. Sat in one at the mall last week and the interior is very nice.

    As our lease is not up until the spring, I can wait for the VUE, the new CR-V and the Pontiac Vibe. More choices will make things more difficult though.
  • I saw a VUE in Phoenix approx Jan 2001, but could barely see inside due to the stage and protection around the vehicle. The size and shape of the SUV was very appealing. I have seen pictures of some other concept VUEs including the "outdoor expression" I think they call it. This vehicle had ostrich-looking leather inside, was very sharp. It remains to be seen what will make it to market. One "L" series Saturn wagon I saw with leather interior was pretty decent, actually. I agree the Liberty has a very nice interior. It has some deficits, too: seats do not fold flat as I think the VUE's will; cargo area behind rear seat is very small--appears larger on the VUE. Also, believe the VUE has a passenger-side folding front seat, so longer items can be placed. The VUE should weigh in at about 3400lbs give or take, the Liberty at 4100 +/-. Thus, while the Liberty has 210hp vrs 181hp for the VUE, one is lugging around an extra 700 lbs in the Liberty=poorer gas mileage. The Liberty will be much more off-road capable. The VUE should be capable of some light "off-road" use, however. I'd expect many more after market items for the Liberty. As several have mentioned, more SUVs are in the wings, which should give buyers lots of choices in the next few years.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Picked up the new Car and Driver yesterday. Great article on the Vue and Vibe with some very good pictures as well. The Vibe looks to be a very good little sport wagon and it too is catching my eye. At 33, I'm only wondering if I'm too old for something like that.
  • Will be reading the Car & Driver issue today. My interest is the comparison to the Jeep Liberty, specifically the interior dimensions. The Liberty site has a very complete set of dimensions. I'm looking for a similar complete description on the Vue. Any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated.
  • It was nice looking until I saw the interior. It was cheap, Plastic and stark. Saw it at an auto show... I would guess from my exp with other Saturns that it could probably use some more HP as well ... but that is just a guess and my opinion.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    The interior does not look too bad, but not the best either. Of course everything you see is pre-production. I will reserve my judgment till I actually sit in a VUE and see/feel a real production model.

    Seems like information on the VUE is very slow in coming.
  • afk_xafk_x Posts: 393
    Another interior hater!

    Can somone please tell me what makes a good interior and what doesn't? Everything is this price range has a plastic interior?

    As for HP - it really doesn't mean all that much. A good example is the Lexus 430 vs the Infinity Q45, or the L-300 vs the Accord V6. I will wait until I drive one to pass judgement on how much power it has.

    BTW the VUE will be in Saturn showrooms around the nation around Thanksgiving. V6 and 4cyl manual only. In January they will start building the 4cyl cvt.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    So it sounds like they are having some problems with the CVT?

    Thanx for the update. I'm really looking forward to seeing the VUE.

    Has production begun?
  • What looks good in this price range Hyundai Santa Fe what also looks bad Pontiac Aztec similar cheep plastic look, and feel and stark. Only my opinion. Heck Honda CRV is somewhat stark but doesn't have the cheap look.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Problem is Santa Fe is ugly and comes from Hyundia, a company that is in financial straits and a checkered past of reliability. It's better than it was but, it's still at the bottom of the heap. I would avoid the vehicle/company completely. New CR-V looks better than the old. When is it going to be out?
  • What does that have to do with how the interior looks?
  • varmitvarmit Posts: 1,125
    If you're interested, I've created a CR-V and Saturn VUE comparison topic. These looks poised to go head to head and are due in the market at about the same time. It should make for an interesting discussion.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Good idea. I think there will be a lot of cross shopping this fall/ winter.

    Still like the Escape/Tribute, but given all the problems they have had I'm a bit scared to buy.
  • Does anyone know how reliable Saturns are? How about standard warranty? Consumer Reports lists the SL and the SC as being better than average and the L-Series well below average. Several years ago I looked at buying a Saturn but I didn't feel their cars compared with Mazda, Honda or Toyota (I bought a Mazda Protege which has been an excellent car). The pictures of the Vue don't impress me but if the price and utility is there I can be won over. At least it has a V6.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    The S-series has been good and the L-series is good now. The initial year of L-series had some problems, but the cars are much better. I suspect that since Saturn is building at Spring Hill, the quality should be good.
  • Does Saturn still have a no haggle policy? Are there any kinds of deals or promotions that Saturn usually runs? Personally I really like no haggle. I don't know why buying a new car should be different than buying a new TV at Best Buy.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Ya.. the no haggle is in place and will stay. You can negotiate options and trade ins though. They also do low financing deals.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Not to get off track on a Vue thread but...


    You're right, the Hyundia comes from Afghanistan and sucks. The Hyuundai Santa Fe, on the other hand has won lots of "best" awards, including Kiplinger's and the Strategic Vision Total Quality award for small SUV's. In fact Hyundai's overall lineup had one of the highest average scores of any make.


    http://www.vision-inc.com/01_tqa_smallsuv.html

  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Yes Hyundia has come a long way in quality. I think the reliability is better but that said, they are way below average in JD Power reliability / dependability ratings.

    My memory of Ponys and Sonatas breaking down all over the place not so long ago will take a long time to erase.
  • Does anyone know exactly when the Vue will go on sale?
  • Just got an e-mail from Saturn saying that they expect the Vue to be showrooms this December. I hope GM extends the 0.0% financing through the end of this year.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Doubt 0.0% will apply to VUE.

    From what I hear also, early December for the launch.
  • The V6 Vue with nothing on it starts at $23,085? By the time I add the features I want it will be out of my price range.
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