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2009 Acura RL

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  • loverlbutloverlbut Posts: 6
    Hi rainbow11,
    If it's not too late, go to Carsdirect.com now.....they are now with huge $10K discout off MSRP on '08 RL - best deal in town (I'm from S. California).

    See my other posting about RL's future along with my car-buying experience as followed.....Good luck.
    -----------------
    I'd like to share my RL experience with rainbow11, carolinabob, ex007, rv65, djdj and many others......(p.s. I am from S. California)
    I am a die-hard RL fan since Y2006. To show our loyalty to Acura, both me and my wife each got new '06 RL in silver, with all the same options/stuff - "his and hers" as joked by dealer every time we go in for an oil-change.....been tracking/researching RL since then.
    Here are my comments:
    1) When RL was first out in '05....."Tech car of the year" - proven Acura's tech. was at leat 3-yrs ahead of competition (e.g. Real-time traffic in '05).
    2) No face-lift since then.
    3) Best car-buying experience from Internet....goto Carsdirect.com and I got the best deal in town, bought two new RL's in a month; the discount was so huge I thought there might be some "discount on warranty" - No, same factory warranty all the way, and really trouble-free shopping with no nego. needed whatsoever....entire car-buying time was less than 30-min.
    4) '09 "Inventory control" someone mentioned in the discussion.....if you goto Carsdirect.com now and you'd see huge (close to $10K) discount off MSRP on '08 - I figure that's what it means "Inventory control" - they are NOT SELLING, and Acura would think twice about how many RL to produce in '09.
    5) If Edmunds Inside-line's recent saying is true that after listening carefully to the market, Acura's to bring its Y2011 new RL with long awaited 420hp-v8, real-wheel-drive w/SH-AWD, etc. to compete in this segment.
    Could Inside-line talk to Mr. Jon Ikeda of new Acura R&D center in Torrance California that:
    a) Honda should be more aggressive than Toyota from my perspective....being an ex-Marketing-exec in one of the giant Japanese "Kai-Sha" in the past 20-yrs.
    b) RL is Acura's flag-ship, and I am a die-hard Acura's fan as evidenced above,....like to see RL's continuous winning.
    c) New Y2011 RL needs.....STYLING, STYLING, STYLING, in addition to all other stuffs to compete in that segment.
    d) U.S. market needs - Styling, Power, and especially with Acura's Tech and Performance when considering $5-$6/gallon in the near future (if you do market research carefully all over the web, that's what market is saying now-a-days). If Mr. Jon Ikeda and Acura can pull all those together, then I think Y2011 RL might be the "Car of the year" winner again with its traditional "pricing-competitiveness" market position (of couse, let us not to confuse Acura's next NSX marketing strategy with its new RL).
    e) But I can not wait, and I think Acura can not wait.....just look at it now - RL is simply not selling. Can Acura bring its NEW RL SOONER to the market....?
    f) Look at Acura's "Advanced-Sport-Sedan" concept, it reminds me somewhat of "Aston-007". .....could Mr. Jon Ikeda talk to Ian - the infamous Chief-designer of previous Aston-Martin's DBS and now behind Jag's new XK-coupe and XF-sedan, or something......?
    Well, I figure Ian might not be "too happy" after Ford's selling Jag/Range-Rover to Indian Tata-auto.

    Dear Mr. Ikeda and Mr. Acura.......STYLING, STYLING, and with all of your Tech and "stuffs", bring your NEW RL to the market sooner, then you'd be striving again, and I'd be your loyal RL fan again, hopefully in Y2009/end....save RL's sales.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Check out the 09 TL. Thats a small preview of whats next to come. They are working very hard on the v8. I can assure yout that the MY011 RL will have a v6 version as well. Acura is working very hard to be Tier 1. A new v10 flagship sedan could be in the works. The RL could just be the 5 series competitor. John Ikeda could design it but Acura now has their own design and R&D center as well.
  • loverlbutloverlbut Posts: 6
    Hi rv65,
    Thanks for your info.. I cut/paste the followings directly from Edmund about Y2011 RL for your reference ...pretty new stat.
    (BTW, if you're into "Power-Toy" and "Hot-Hatch", check out '08 Mazdaspped-3 (Car & Driver 10-best)....0-60 in 5.4sec., 263hp w/280-torgue - even bigger torgue than RL, TL, Infiniti-G, Lexus-IS, VW-GTI....etc.; I test-drove one, fantastic acceleration and built very very "tight", relatively quiet when crusing, best of all - under $25K with Bose)

    ------ Edmunds' latest stat about Y2011 RL --------

    What Edmunds.com Says:Rear-wheel drive and a V8 engine should help, but the 2011 Acura RL really needs distinctive styling if it's going to compete against Germany's finest.

    What We Know: Honda has been listening to the word on the street very carefully, because it has finally decided to give the 2011 Acura RL luxury sedan a V8 to help it compete with strong rivals in the U.S. One source tells us that Honda is currently working on a 420-horsepower 4.8-liter V8, and will employ the same cylinder deactivation technology we see on the current Japan-spec Inspire V6, thus generating class-leading fuel economy figures. But unlike the current RL, which sits on a front-wheel-drive platform and features Honda's SH-AWD four-wheel-drive system, the all-new RL will instead incorporate a rear-drive platform, one necessity that Honda planners have clearly identified in this segment, and a reconfigured SH-AWD system that engages the front wheels when rear traction is compromised. Slated for a mid-2010 debut, the new RL is expected to land in showrooms wearing a higher price tag than the current model.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Maybe the MY011 RL will likely be a 7 series competitor. The new TL will be larger than the current one and sized more like the current Accord. Or maybe the RL will be the RWD TL. The new TL has some nice goodies. The new TL will look nothing like the 09 RL and 09 TSX. 2 Engines including the RL's new v6. The base v6 will be likely be similar to the 05-08 RL v6. Pricing however might go up since Acura wants to be Tier 1 like Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti and BMW.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Next RL will get a v8 for the first time. The 09 TL will actually rival the 09 RL. The new TL will have features that will rival the 09 RL. The 09 RL will have to soldier on until 2010 when the MY11 RL will come out. The 09 TL looks like a current 2 Door civic mixed in with Camry. Does have a grill similar to the 09 RL and TSX but everything else is different. The 09 TL will not be accused of being bland. The 09 TL will be bigger than the 09 RL. An even bigger 2011 RL will re claim that title.
  • jensadjensad Posts: 388
    Just posing a question to the group.

    How is Acura going to deal with the hybridization of the industry? Will they go to a hybrid Acura? Can one manufacture a V 8 and still make it "fit" within a hybrid?

    I think Acura will have their share of hybrids, and it will include a V8 model. Guessing, maybe about 2012.

    I am not in the industry, and own a 08 RL. But I think the hybrid issue will be addressed sooner than later.

    Good luck to all and stay safe.

    jensad
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,227
    I recently read that Honda will use hybrids for their smaller cars, and rely more on diesels for their larger cars. So, you're more likely to see hybrid powertrains applied to Civic and smaller size Hondas, and 4 cylinder and V6 diesels for Accords, SUVs, minivans, and Acuras.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    No RL hybrid. I could see diesel as a future engine choice. I know it has its fair share of haters though. The new diesels are in a different league than 30 years ago. Honda thinks small cars should go hybrid. The 2011 RL will get the v8. I'm sure the IMA could be adapted to a v8. It depends on how they designed the engine bay. The previous accord had to have a v6 hybrid since the 4 cylinder hybrid was too wide. Now that the RL is going to a RWD based platform than you can have an IMA v8.
  • desert_ratdesert_rat Posts: 23
    the 2008 RL is now available well below invoice.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    I guess the 09 will be at that point when the 09 TL is coming out. 09 RL is just a bandaid until 2011.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    My favorite LIPSTICK shade would DAZZLE A PIG because the first time I saw it was 40 years ago on my all time favorite gal...Yep...the good woman I met AND married in 1968! Figure of speech or not it's still good to see you BARTALK, as well as NEBRASKA GUY and my good friend ACURAPHILE. I have stayed in touch with GEORGE (ACURAPHILE) ever since the 2005 forum was the hottest forum in Edmunds, say summer of 2004. I have come to the point where I don't get too excited about all the comparison talk anymore but it's great to read some personal stories about how the car we own and drive affects our lives. I read the RL and LPS forums for many months and was simply amazed by the knowledge, wisdom and wit of the many people that took the time to post their thoughts and opinions. What great fun it is...the synergy is there! This is a decision making time for me with the 2005 RL. I would be perfectly happy to keep it but come November the warranty ends and I am somewhat concerned about the electronics, computer functions, and even the sh-awd mechanics going forward and extended warranties are of no interest to me and so I will probably buy this fall. We'll see what kind of hand we are dealt as Acura gets serious about putting together a great new Car. It's good to be back!
    JJAcura
  • nebraskaguynebraskaguy Posts: 341
    JJ: Good to see you still hanging around. I'm in week three of a six-week driving tour of the Midwest in my 2005 RL- over 4,000 miles so far with at least another 2,000 to go. It has been a wonderful trip in a great car. I've experienced a low of 25 mpg and a high of 30 mpg. Yesterday, I got nearly 29 mpg doing 80 mph on Interstate 80 in Nebraska.

    A note to those who derided the nonoptional nav system - I'm on this trip alone and I don't know how I could have done it without the nav system. One day in Ohio I looked at the map at the end of the day and during the day, I had made 14 route changes to see the various sights on my itinerary. Without an excellent memory or a good navigator, I would have been pulling over every 1/2 hour to look at the map. At one point, even a good navigator wouldn't have helped. My nav system was insisting I take "the next left turn". It was unmarked and looked like the entrance to an industrial park. I took it anyway, and it was the highway I needed to take.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Nebraska Guy, Good to see you are still checking this forum and staying in touch. I recall you mentioning some time ago that you were planning to retire ... sounds like you have done just that. Speaking of trips, I drove through Nebraska to Colorado last July and used the Navi extensively. It really made a difference especially in Colorado. I'm out west right now visiting our daughter in Tucson...it's a 2300 mile jaunt each way from Wisconsin so we fly, but on one of these trips out I'd like to drive... just have to sell the Mrs. on that idea! ;)
    Would not worry about doing it in the RL.though!
    JJ
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Well a TSX with some mods was spotted. This TSX is a mule for the new RWD based Acura RL. Finally a v8 engine. Looks like this RL will be the new tier 1 acura. This TSX mule has some parts to make it look like a RWD car. Acura also has a v10 in the works. Acura is working on some really nice features to get better mileage out of these new engines. leftlanenews.com has some pics.

    http://michaeladhi.com/2008/06/11/somewhat-confirmed-an-expensive-honda-with-rea- r-wheel-drive/

    It's somewhat confirmed though. Now Acura can become a tier 1 brand.
  • zeenzeen Posts: 391
    New '09 RL is featured in the Summer 08 edition of Style published by Acura. It's a gorgeous car that may give the 5 Series a run for the money.
  • vavavavolvovavavavolvo Posts: 111
    09's are expected in dealer lots next week.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Well they just announced the pricing. Pricing is the same except for the options. PAX tires aren't available on the 09's.

    CMBS and Adaptive Cruise control are offered in a stand alone package. About 3800 USD. Hope this helps.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,227
    Sorry, but what's CMBS?
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Collision Mitigation Braking System
  • nebraskaguynebraskaguy Posts: 341
    09's are expected in dealer lots next week.

    When I took my RL in for service this morning, I ran into my salesman. He said there's been a slight delay and they won't be coming in until the first or second week of July.
  • pellucidpellucid Posts: 5
    My 2005 RL, with 32K miles on the odo, produced a grating noise from beneath the hood. The service manager listened briefly, and shook his head. He promptly called for his Foreman who came out with his 'stethoscope' with wand attached. He poked around and said: "This is a first - the only RL that ever required a new 'serpentine belt tensioner." That aside, this car has run smoothly and without complaint. My dealership is beyond compare: beautiful showroom, responsive service people, loaners always available and warm greetings upon arrival.
    Hi to NebraskaGuy! - and Pat.
    Regards,

    George
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    You interested in the '09 RL for yourself Neb.Guy or just curious to see it? Big changes coming in 2010 ... 2011 for sure. I just hand waxed the 2005 today WITH Zymol :shades: and it looks like new! Figure its about broken in now with 42,000 miles. Am considering Michelin Pilot Sports to replace the OE'S in a couple months. (Are you and I the only ones left from the hot '05 forum days?)

    OMG!!!! This wasn't planned!!!! ACURAPHILE!!!!! :surprise: AMAZING!!!!!!

    JJACURA
  • pellucidpellucid Posts: 5
    How did the name "Pellucid" pop up? This is Acuraphile - remember me?? Out of sight, out of mind, is it???

    George
  • nebraskaguynebraskaguy Posts: 341
    You interested in the '09 RL for yourself Neb.Guy or just curious to see it? Big changes coming in 2010 ... 2011 for sure.

    I'm definitely curious to see it, but possibly interested as well. I love my 05 - just put 8,200 miles on it for my Midwest trek, but I want to see what the 09 brings. I know big changes are coming for the 2010 or 2011, but I doubt I'll want to jump right on it like I did the 05. If I do like the 10 or 11 when it comes out, I'll probably wait a year or two.

    (Are you and I the only ones left from the hot '05 forum days?)

    If not the only ones, one of the few, definitely. Good to see you still posting.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    It looks like you have two registrations and logged in under the pellucid one. Why don't you drop me an email.

    And it's good to see you again, whatever you call yourself! :)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hey jj, good to see you!! :)
  • nebraskaguynebraskaguy Posts: 341
    I just received the brochure on the 09 RL. Just glancing, I see a couple of changes in the specs from the current model:

    1st is 2008, 2nd is 2009

    Length - 193.6 -- 195.8
    Turning diameter - 39.7 -- 36.1 (great)
    HP - 290 @ 6200 rpm -- 300 @ 6300 rpm
    Torque - 256 lbs-ft @ 5000 rp -- 271 @ 5000 rp
    Displacement - 3.5 -- 3.7
    Compression ratio - 11.0:1 -- 11.2:1

    In addition, both driver and passenger have 10-way power seats (this corrects a common complaints on these boards)

    With the tech package, there are now ventilated seats (corrects another common complaint)

    I was disappointed to see there are no new colors, despite a report to the contrary on these boards.

    There are probably other differences, but the above are what I noted.
  • docrwdocrw Posts: 94
    Thanks for the specs.

    Can you tell us what the rear seat legroom is for the '09, this was the biggest disappointment for me in the previous version and if it is improved would definitely get me into the showroom for a test drive.
  • nebraskaguynebraskaguy Posts: 341
    Can you tell us what the rear seat legroom is for the '09, this was the biggest disappointment for me in the previous version and if it is improved would definitely get me into the showroom for a test drive.

    Unfortunately, despite the slight extra length, there is no more legroom in either the front or back seats. Sorry.
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