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Ford Fiesta

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  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    Honestly I don't get what is so terrible about a real manual transmission, but now I know this isn't on my list to wait for anymore. Time for a E46 3-series.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    Not that I would have any interest in a 180 HP Fiesta, but...honestly I don't get what is so terrible about a six-speed Powershift dual-clutch transmission :P ;) .
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116

    Not that I would have any interest in a 180 HP Fiesta, but...honestly I don't get what is so terrible about a six-speed Powershift dual-clutch transmission


    I don't think many people do, or they wouldn't be making it. I like shifting, I like pushing the clutch, etc. Like I said, I'm in the minority.

    I hope everybody loves it and Ford sells as many as they can make. Maybe it will be the new sport compact car of choice.
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    edited April 2010
    Really, I don't give a crap about the new more-efficient dual-clutch automated manual, either, but would definitely urge people who don't drive stick to get it instead of a slushbox.

    For about the same price, my choice would be the powerful 3.0 (but still more fuel efficient than other 6-cyl engines from BMW) 330xi w/ sport package & manual transmission, if you can find one. B/c the AWD xi only comes with non-sport suspension even w/ optional sport package (which mainly only includes the superb front seats w/ thigh-height tilt & thigh extension), plus another 1cm of extra suspension travel over the non-sport 2WD's. AWD does have larger turning radius, though.

    & I would replace 3.0's std 17" rims w/ the special 16" rim from Tire Rack that will fit over 330's extra-huge brakes to complete this comfy-riding package. & match w/ high-performance all-season H-rated Michelin Pilot Exalto 205/55-16.

    B/c, over the last few years or so, I've driven Mercedes sedans, & their steering feel is too dead. This "330xi formula" I recommend has the ride comfort to compete w/ the Benz w/o the numb steering.

    AWD E46's seem to have better steering feel than 2WD ones. & compare to '02 AWD, the '04 AWD's power steering seems extra heavy, if that's what you like.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Does anyone else see the Ford special offer to the right? $2000 customer cash + $2000 FCC bonus cash + $2000 competitive owner cash? Can that be true?!? $6000 off a brand-new design, before any negotiating? On a car that starts at $14,000??

    Maybe it IS a mistake... when I click on the link for "Get this offer", all I get is a blank page. In fact, none of the links in the ad work. And when I use Edmund's inventory finder, I find 0 inventory in a 50 mile radius of the Twin Cities. Why would Ford offer $6000 off a car for which it has no inventory? :P
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    Yeah, I see it. Even $2000 off would seem to be too much for a brand new design that is not even on dealer lots.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    I was thinking more like the 330 w/ZHP, but those are relatively hard to find and pricey. I do like that they have a 6 speed manual that allows the 330 to match the 325 fuel economy.
    All things being equal, I like the RWD driving dynamics more so than then the AWD in that car. Another possibility would be an M3 coupe, but I think those are going to be out of my price range (actually, the 330 is too but eh gotta live a little I guess).
    I think a 2000-2004 Audi S4 would be fun as well, but am concerned about the maintenance aspect.
    I wonder if the Mazda2 is going to get a sport version...
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    The biggest issue though with the Fiesta is that it is FWD.
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    edited April 2010
    So you want a compact RWD sport sedan for the price of a Fiesta. You think Ford can't build one? Like the 1970 Japanese Datsun 510,

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Datsun_Bluebird_Coupe_(510)_001.JPG

    Ford of Europe also had one since 1970, w/ exterior dimension (167.7" length, 67.1" width, 53.8" height) no bigger than today's Fiesta sedan, plus "The car's suspension was changed to a double wishbone from a MacPherson strut in order to make the ride more comfortable on the freeway."
    http://www.autoevolution.com/gallery/ford-cortina-1970.html
    & BMW sport sedan is at least 40yrs behind when comes to switching to double-wishbone front suspension!!! :confuse:

    http://www.mk3cortina.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Standard_Corti- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - nas&image=greencortina.jpg&img=56&search=CORTINA&cat=all&tt=&bool=and
    Just look at this old beauty. No wonder today's version no longer outsold the BMW 3-series in Britain the way it used to!

    I'm serious, why doesn't Ford continue w/ the RWD Cortina? Just take the RX-8 platform, which also has double-wishbone front suspension, hello...

    I should be the one in charge of Ford's product development :P
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    Really, it's that the Fiesta is a great little car. But if it was RWD and a bit more aggressive, it could be SO much more. The car that they should be modeling it after is the old BMW 318ti or the Mercedes C230K coupe. The same thing but for half the price (read: a normal non-inflated price) would be an amazing car.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    If the Fiesta was rear wheel drive I wouldn't even look at it. Sure, RWD is fun when the pavement is dry, but it's just not very functional on snow or ice.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Really, it's that the Fiesta is a great little car. But if it was RWD and a bit more aggressive, it could be SO much more.

    It wouldn't be more interior and cargo room. And it probably wouldn't start at $14k. And it wouldn't sell much in the US (where are the 318ti and C230K now?). You might want to wait for the new Toyota/Subaru RWD sports coupe. Relatively inexpensive as those things go, but likely over $20k, and not the people room of a small FWD car like the Fiesta. There's also other RWD cars for folks like you who demand that in a small, relatively inexpensive car, e.g. Genesis 2.0T.

    Also, in case you haven't noticed, the focus (no pun intended) of small economy cars these days is on... economy, not aggressiveness. As I said, there are other cars for that kind of thing.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    I agree that the Fiesta's main attribute is utility and occupant packaging in a small car with good fuel economy like the Honda Fit. It would be nice if it was also fun to drive, but I think it will be.
    I think the ToyoBaru is expected to be the second coming of the AE86 (Toyota Corolla GTS from the early 80s). I am not holding my breath seeing as Toyota hasn't made a fun "sports" car in the last decade, and Subaru seems to be into going as mainstream as possible, as fast as possible. I see another early-90s Celica, an overpriced, underpowered, cramped car, but I really, really hope I am wrong.
    The Hyundai Genesis coupe (4 cyl/rwd/6speed) is a very compelling package, as is the next Mustang with the 300 hp/30mpg V6, but those are both very different then the Fiesta, and I would think rightfully so,
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    edited April 2010
    That's just misinformation, though, since I can verify that stability control systems make RWD cars as safe as FWD cars short of things like ice and other situations where the driver is being a complete idiot. Even my old truck (no anything, not even ABS) is stable in the rain on mountain roads. People have unfortunately had their brains inundated with misinformation for the last 20+ years and actually believe that RWD cars are some sort of design fault and will spin out if you breathe on them wrong.

    The reason it is important is because unless you unload the front end suspension and get rid of the problem of steering and power being on the same wheels, you cannot have a truly sporty car. Very few of the "classic" sports cars that I know of, for instance, are FWD. Even the new muscle-car remakes are all coming out as RWD. BMW and Mercedes stubbornly remain RWD as well. To truly be a "hot hatchback", it needs RWD. And a very powerful engine.

    The interior space would remain unchanged, unless Ford was stupid about it, because I know of RWD cars that you can't even see more than a 1-2 inch hump for the drive shaft thanks to it having 2-3 sections. The cost would remain almost the same as well. The only issue is the engine needing about 6-8 more inches room front to rear, but that's not a problem with modern engineering and the fact that the car has the entire area between the front seats as extra possible space. In the C230K, you hardly noticed the fact that it was RWD.

    And Mercedes, well, the reason it sold so poorly was because of the market segment that they were in and the fact that they charged literally 2x the cost of the car. If the C230K had been 16-20K versus the 230 Sedan's 30K, it would have sold in immense numbers.

    The BMW 1 series hatch is probably the only thing that I know of, and it does seem to sell reasonably well. But the price is horrendously inflated as well. What we need is Honda or Toyota to get into the game, or maybe Mazda. Ford came *this* close to making a good car a great, game-changing one.

    There's no reason you can't have a "hot hatch" and have it be RWD and safe. Well, other than a lack of desire by the auto makers to build it.

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0106_2002_mercedes_benz_c230_komp- - ressor_sport_coupe/index.html
    Thankfully they are now quite reasonable to buy used. And manual transmissions were available as a bonus. I'd rather have one of these used than a Fiesta(just barely).

    EDIT:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_CLC-Class
    Oh, wait - they DO still make it. Just not in the U.S....
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    edited April 2010
    So you have driven the previous C-class. How could you stand the so-so steering feel? I have driven them all w/ the sport suspension --

    '01 C240 2.6 V6 sedan manual
    '02 C230 Kompressor 2.3 hatch auto
    '04 C320 3.2 V6 sedan auto (w/ factory lowered suspension)
    '07 C230 2.6 V6 sedan manual (w/ factory lowered suspension)

    I was quite unimpressed w/ later model years' factory lowered suspension. It no longer has the Mercedes-ish superior ride over deep bumps, such as speed bumps. So I ended up getting the '07 Focus ST 2.3 w/ better steering feel.

    By the way, switching to hatchback from notchback can actually hurt handling, b/c the rear shelf of the notchback isn't just for insulating road noise but works like the cross bracing found in the recent Nissan Z-car. That's why the notchback G37 coupe, which shares the same platform, doesn't need one. That's why fastback hatch are switching to wagon-shape these days so the roof top can keep the structure loose-ness down.

    A British car magazine, which usually drive the hatch version of the C-1 Focus, also noticed improved body structure on the sedan version!

    When driving the '04 Mazda3 hatch & sedan side-by-side at the MazdaRevItUp event, I could feel the top-heavy clumsy-ness from the wagon-shape hatch.

    I really really don't know if the old sharp-looking sporty RWD Mazda 3-series coupe (Grand Familia / RX-3) was an expensive small car.
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    edited April 2010
    I agree that the Fiesta's main attribute is utility and occupant packaging in a small car with good fuel economy like the Honda Fit.

    LOL. I've sat in the German-made hatch over a year ago during Ford's Fiesta test-drive event as well as the Mexican-made hatch & sedan in the recent LA Autoshow. Ford is going backward w/ this cramped interior w/ exterior bulkier than the '07 Focus :sick:

    The roomiest small sedan is the '83-86 Camry LE, which is just a tad narrower & shorter than today's Fiesta sedan & gets about 30mpg city & 40mpg hwy w/ its fat-torque 2.0 4-cyl!
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    The C230K with the non-lowered suspension and manual is(or was) the sweet spot. The replacements are heavier, harsher, and lose that small tossable feel. The best was actually the C230K *sedan*, which is hard to find, since they get about 35mpg highway and nobody is selling them used.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    LOL. I've sat in the German-made hatch over a year ago during Ford's Fiesta test-drive event as well as the Mexican-made hatch & sedan in the recent LA Autoshow. Ford is going backward w/ this cramped interior w/ exterior bulkier than the '07 Focus

    I will have to have more seat time before I can pass judgment on it. It reminds me a lot of the 00-07 Focus 5 door, which I thought as a good thing.

    The roomiest small sedan is the '83-86 Camry LE, which is just a tad narrower & shorter than today's Fiesta sedan & gets about 30mpg city & 40mpg hwy w/ its fat-torque 2.0 4-cyl!

    I remember a lot of kids having those Camrys when I was in HS. I remembered them to be slow, loud poor handling cars that were very reliable. I also know they had 0 air bags, no anti-lock brakes, inadequate air conditioning, and the models that got the fuel economy lacked the power package. My neighbor had a 1986 until about 2006 or so. I don't really have any positive/fun memories of those cars.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Dude, go back and read what I said. I'll wait.......Finished?

    I said; "....Sure, RWD is fun when the pavement is dry, but it's just not very functional on snow or ice."

    Now, you even said that you agree that it doesn't function as well on ice. I would presume that you agree that it does not function as well on snow. Right?

    How that misinformation?

    I've driven plenty of RWD, AWD, and FWD cars in my life and I know where each fall short.

    I don't spread misinformation.
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    Funny pop up ad. Saw it on several sites. One said it was sponsored by South Florida Ford Dealers Assoc. For a (new) vehicle thats not even in production yet and has a suggested MSRP of about $17K with decent options, how the hell can you discount this vehicle by $6000? Happy April Fools even though today is already Apr 4. LOL
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    edited April 2010
    At the LA Autoshow, after sitting in the Fiesta sedan, I even found sitting in the '10 Focus' ugly Americanized interior a huge relief in both room & driving position as well as visibility (especially rearward). Of course, the '07 Focus sedan, which I own one, has the most comfortable interior w/ best visibility & is about as roomy as the '10 Focus.

    The '83 Camry LE, which my parents used to owned one, has more hp than the '83 GTI, plus way more low-end torque. It hops off the line like a V8, & climbing the steep hills of Palos Verdes California pretty quickly & quietly at 3000rpm w/ no sweat. & this high-mpg compact-but-roomy luxury sedan was very fancy -- power everything (window/lock/cruise), great-sounding stereo w/ equalizer & subwoofer, additional A/C duct on top of the dash that blows air directly to the rear passengers w/o chilling the front passengers, & an efficient overdrive auto tranny w/ lock-up torque converter. The car even corners pretty quickly w/ Michelin MXL S-rated 185/70-13 tires. Unfortunately, its steering didn't have much feel, & it has way worse ride comfort, especially for the rear passengers, than even the '83 Tercel! Too bad, the roomy rear seating got one of the most comfortable high chairs in the world, even for 3 people sitting across!

    That's why, eventually, I collected the notchback version of the '83 GTI -- an '84 Geman-made Jetta coupe -- instead of the original Camry.
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    edited April 2010
    Now, you even said that you agree that it doesn't function as well on ice. I would presume that you agree that it does not function as well on snow. Right?

    It's a given that it's 100% your own stupid fault for driving a car on ice without chains and/or proper care. I've driven RWD cars on snow for years, and with chains and proper speeds, they are exactly as safe as FWD cars. Or exactly as unsafe if you're an idiot. FWD on snow won't save you magically, either. Almost every situation that would cause you to lose control with a RWD car would also cause serious problems for a FWD car - and it's the driver's fault every time for not knowing what to do or just simply getting in over their head.

    Unfortunately, most drivers these days are idiots who treat a vehicle as an appliance more than a serious machine and skill to master. They forget that it's not only a way to get around town but potentially a 3500lb disaster waiting to happen if they don't treat it with proper respect.

    RWD isn't an issue in any case today with stability control as an option on most new cars these days. It will be mandatory in a couple of years, so essentially RWD will be a non-issue in any case at that point in time. It's certainly not a reason to make a small hatchback FWD vs RWD. Just look at BMW and Mercedes. They love to make RWD cars and I think there's TAD of snow in Germany in the winter. I don't hear about them going all over the place and crashing every tie there's a little snow on the roads.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    edited April 2010
    It's simple physics. There is a huge advantage in having the powered wheels the same as the wheels you steer with. VSC can help on a RWD car but it can't entirely make up for the superior advantage of being able to apply power to the wheels you steer with. VSC, by it's nature, only comes on when the car is going out of control. I'd rather not go out of control in the first place and that is what FWD helps with.

    And to suggest that people need to put on chains is silly. Chains aren't even legal in most states and that includes mine.
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    Is someone (dating) themselves? Hell I`m an old fart in my mid-sixties and I haven`t seen or heard chains on a vehicle here in the USA for Decades! Sure the long haul semi-tractor rigs have them hanging off their cabs in the winter months probably due to the fact that they may haul to Alaska or to the Dakota`s during winter months, but even Police cars don`t use (chains) any longer unless perhaps you live within 50 miles of the Canadian Border. Thanks, you put a smile on my face!
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    And that's why people get into crashes I guess. "I have a SUV" and then they end up in the ditch because they are using street tires on snow like morons. The last time I went to the mountains the police required 4WD and AT or better tires or chains. No exceptions. Thankfully I have 4WD and MT tires and about a 4-6 inch lift over the 2WD version, so I laughed at the dozens of people putting on chains. :P

    The original post, though, was about the Fiesta and FWD vs RWD. And, for the car to be agile and fast you really need to get the power and the steering on different axles. There are advantages to having the power and steering on the same axle but that only applies in a few instances. The rest of the time, it deadens steering response and feel, causes torque steer, and generally makes for a pathetic driving experience.

    I got a brand new Cobalt/etc when my truck was in the shop about a year ago(their fault - they had to take 24 hours to fix their mistake). Just your typical 2500lb small jellybean sedan. Maybe 1000 miles on it. The steering was physically harder to steer and slower to respond than the steering on my truck. My truck is 20+ years old, and has mud terrain tires on it. The difference between FWD and RWD when it comes to driving dynamics and responsiveness is huge.

    My only hope if that the next small car like this from Toyota or Mazda is RWD.
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    Well, although I lived until 1998 in Massachusetts and saw a fair amount of snow every winter, I`ve lived the past 12 years here in the Florida Keys (Key West) where the temperature has NEVER reached freezing and has never seen a snow flake. I`ve always advocated that (ice) only belongs in a cocktail class, so "chains" are something for B & D and Leather folks. I`d rather deal with the" Roach "that ate Miami then dealing with snow/sleet/freezing rain and Jack Frost! I still hug my Palm Trees every day!
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    edited April 2010
    Is someone (dating) themselves? Hell I`m an old fart in my mid-sixties and I haven`t seen or heard chains on a vehicle here in the USA for Decades

    That's because old farts dont go anywhere :P . I-80 over to Lake Tahoe, hwy 395 to Mammoth, and just about any California road going to a ski area all require chains in winter. So within 3 hours of ocean, you may need chains.

    The worst trip I had was summer tires on a fwd Nissan Sentra. That was far worse than reasonably new all seasons on a 3-series of the same era. Both cars had chains. Tires and weight distribution seem to be important here as well.

    FWIW, Mrs. LilEngineerBoy has an AWD wagon with snow tires in winter in Michigan, but I would have no issues with a RWD sport sedan personally. If I was that afraid to drive somewhere, I shouldn't be out on the road anyway.
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    If you call that kind of "driving" having fun....I`ll pass. I use to drive through Vermont mid-winter to Montreal all the time and still never required (chains). If the conditions are that bad....unless your EMT or Funeral Director doing a "removal" and have no choice in the matter, just wait till conditions improve. So glad to be living now in the Tropics. Just add ice to the beer cooler and I`m good.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Can you find out why the "Compare to Popular Models" feature does not allow me to put an automatic transmission on the Fiesta? Or can you at least forward this to someone at Edmunds that can check into this?

    Thanks! ;)
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    A good question! I've passed it along. Hope to have an answer for you soon :shades:
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Thank you.
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    The new 2011 Ford Fiesta has not even gone into production yet in Mexico and the Ford web site has altered the interior color choices. Now in the SE Hatchback, NO Option available. If you select Candy Red Metallic which is a $180. extra premium paint, you cannot select the blk/charcoal cloth interior. You get the light stone/grey cloth interior. Ok with me as thats the color option (I) ordered, but I`m sure some will be disappointed to find the early order for their vehicle was already changed!
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    edited April 2010
    We were discussing the interior options on the Build site on another forum. We think it might be that they are working on the Build site because the leather options were gone also the last time I looked.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    More likely it's just a website error. Are the official order guides out? Those are usually definitive.
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    Of course the official order guides have been at the Ford Dealerships since late Feb. I ordered mine Mar.5 but like they always say and warn you, manufacturer reserves the right to make changes, add, delete, etc at anytime. It could be that they want to differentiate the SE cloth interior with the light stone-grey interior with the SEL cloth interior being charcoal-black? But, time will tell. Production is supposed to start Apr. 26.
  • irritatrixirritatrix Member Posts: 40
    Chains are REQUIRED on some highways in California in the winter, during bad storms. I don't know where you folks live that chains are illegal, but speak for yourselves.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Speak for myself? I thought I was. What part of what I wrote says that chains are illegal in California? :confuse:

    "...... Chains aren't even legal in most states and that includes mine. "

    That statement is as true now as when I wrote it. The problem lies in your reading comprehension skills. ;)
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    At the dealer I ordered from, the order guide I looked at listed and showed pictures of the three different fabric samples. I'm sure it's just a glitch.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    I think the problem was you said "most states" when that may not be true.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Yep, you're right. I Just did some checking and it looks like I am wrong on chain laws. Entirely wrong! Most states do allow them in certain snow and ice conditions. Even my state. I new studded tires were illegal here and thought chains were also illegal.

    My bad. I apologize. :blush:
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    edited April 2010
    OK, got an answer from up the food chain ;) and while it may not let you do EXACTLY what you want to do, it certainly served the purpose of letting the folks who need to know that there's something the comparison probably could do...

    We apologize for the trouble you are having comparing a 2011 Ford Fiesta with an automatic transmission to other models. Unfortunately our comparator tool only allows you to compare vehicles at the style level, and the automatic transmission on the Fiesta is an option.

    While you will not be able to specify an automatic transmission for the Fiesta in the comparator tool, you can still price out the vehicle with this option:

    http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fiesta/2011/index.html

    1) Select a style

    2) Click the red Price With Options Button

    3) In the list of available options, check the box for the 6-Speed Automatic Transmission

    3) Click the red TMV pricing report button


    Like I said, maybe not the answer you would have ideally liked, but it moves the ball forward!
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Thanks pf_flyer,

    Very much appreciate you taking the time to look into this. At least I understand why it doesn't work now. Of course, Edmunds could enter the Fiesta with an automatic as a style level. As it is, someone looking to compare a Fiesta to any other comparable car in it's class might get the impression that Fiestas only come with manuals. Kind of unfairly puts the Fiesta at a disadvantage.

    But hey, what do I know? I've been known to be wrong before. ;)
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    I'm pretty sure that it wasn't done to put any car at a disadvantage in a comparison :P but thanks for pointing it out. Having all those extra eyes checking out every little corner of the site is how we find out about things that might not have turned out as expected!
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    The previous elimination of interior choices on the Ford Fiesta Build and Order site have been corrected. Both the cloth "light stone & charcoal" and well as the "black stone & charcoal" on the SE edition as well as the Leather option on the SES are now once again available. Must have been a site glitch.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    The Fiesta Build site does a terrible job of showing what the Light Stone fabric/interior looks like so Matthew (a Fiesta reservation consultant) posted this link on another site to a PDF that shows considerably better, the interior and paint choices. The fabric colors are very close to the actual samples I saw. That depends somewhat on the quality of your monitor though.

    http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B7A3EggW1VljY2M1Yzk4MzMtMmIxMC00NzRiLWFmNDMt- ZmExMzdlOGRiMjI1&hl=en
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    edited April 2010
    The Light Stone fabric is what I ordered on my Fiesta SE 5 dr Hatchback in Candy Red Metallic. I hope it looks airy and bright with the added Power Moon Roof I ordered. I`m so tired of drab tired black interiors. Wish they had offered a "red" cloth interior option. They only offered Red interior for one year (1994) in the Mustang Convertible which I ordered in the fall of 93` in bright Rio Red exterior paint. Hard to find matching interior and exterior colors anymore.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    I thought it was strange that they didn't have a red accent interior option for the cloth. A red accent would have looked much better with most of the Fiesta's exterior colors verses the blue.
  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    Never thought of that possibility. Still would have opted for the Light Stone Grey/Charcoal combination. For me adding the "red" highlite unto the Black cloth would have still left the interior too dark for me.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    edited April 2010
    Get ready for a bunch of Fiesta reviews on Monday. Automotive journalists have been testing the NA car for the last few weeks and can publish their data on the 26th. I'm guessing Edmunds will have their impressions ready to publish also. I really hope MPG numbers are as good as Ford has been saying. If you surf the web you can find some photos already released of the actual NA Fiesta.
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