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  • phill1phill1 Member Posts: 319
    I just called my car salesman who I ordered my Fiesta SE hatchback on Mar.04, (with) the Power Moon Roof option and he checked the dealers recent DORA report of ordered cars and their build status and my vehicle shows no updated information of either vin# or production date yet. He told me that delivery might be late August or even Sept. He promised to call me immediately as soon as the dealers DORA report confirms my vehicles "born on date". I`m good with the delay, hopefully some of the early production glitches and equipment changes will have been resolved by then and earlier reports of bad orange peel paint finishes will have been corrected too.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    Manuals were down to 7% of sales in 2008:

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/04/21/66604/whats-driving-a-shift-away-from.html-
  • m6userm6user Member Posts: 3,181
    Tks. Lower % than I even thought. I would actually be driving a stick in one of my vehicles if my wife would just learn to drive one. She absolutely refuses and doesn't want a car in the family she can't drive even if she would only drive it once in a blue moon.
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    edited May 2010
    Buy it anyways. Look, her mother probably knows how to drive stick, and her grandmother does/did as well, since that's what was required back then. She's just being lazy and stubborn. Doubly so if it's 95% your car.
  • audreyalityaudreyality Member Posts: 8
    I actually learned to drive on a stick because my mom wanted me to know how so that I would understand the choice/difference. I don't hang out with people who modify cars or repair them regularly. I am more of a home body than that. I think making assumptions and judgments should be left to marketers. This forum is for questions and responses not categorizing each other.

    I'm buying an automatic because it gets better gas mileage than the manual. I do know how to drive a stick, but I don't drive it to optimize my fuel economy.
  • m6userm6user Member Posts: 3,181
    Good for you and I'm sure there are many, many more like you but that would be an assumption, sorry. But just to let you know, these forums are for more than just questions and direct responses to those questions. People are also allowed to have opinions and state them as they please as long as they are not derogatory towards an individual. If you don't agree with somebody's opinion, say so. Just don't tell others what they can or cannot say in these forums. We have Hosts for that job.
  • wdaveo1wdaveo1 Member Posts: 34
    I noticed that someone posted a consumer review for the Fiesta. It is not a good review. Any thoughts on this? Have any dealers actually even gotten any cars in yet?
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    edited May 2010
    One review does not a car make, or break. Fiesta is very well liked here in Europe and hopefully the USA model will be just as successful, i.e. good.

    Reviews are merely an individual's subjective report. Read them by all means, but only as a means of picking up comments on things to look for that are important to you personally. The only way to decide is to drive it yourself and be as objective as possible. But you already know that.

    My review of the old Ferrari Testarossa would make depressing reading, (I drove one for 6 laps of a race circuit). I climbed in prepared for the experience of a lifetime and climbed out bitterly disappointed and cured of Ferraris for life. Other folks drove the same car and came away close to orgasmic. That's life. A Lotus Elise on the other hand..................OMG ! :)

    ETA : Just read the review in question. Sounds like a Friday Afternoon Car that hadn't been PDI'd properly by the dealer. Hopefully that isn't going to be typical. The most damning comment was that he wished he'd bought a Dodge Caliber instead. We get those in Europe and the only positive attribute they seem to have is that they're relatively cheap for their size. Just about everything else is dire, it seems. Fiesta is, (over here), in a completely different league. Hopefully yours will be.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    He couldn't have REALLY meant he should have bought a Caliber. I had one of those as a rental for a week in LA and it was simply impossible to see out of in a LOT of directions.

    I'm sure it was just a bit of hyperbole resulting from his disappointment ;)
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Well, I can tell you this, no cars for retail sale have been shipped from the plant in Mexico. Any cars that are at dealers currently are training cars only and will never be for sale. The guy is a liar. Don't know what his motives are.
  • m6userm6user Member Posts: 3,181
    You really have to take the reviews to the right on this page with a grain of salt. I've rarely met someone that wasn't pleased as punch the first few weeks of ownership of a new car and that is when most of these reviews are posted. On the other hand, you may have someone with an ulterior motive which it appears this one review may be.

    I read them when I'm interested in a car but only to find common complaints. Then when I test drive I look at these closely to see if I can live with them. Otherwise, I don't put much stock in them.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Yep. That's good advise for everyone to follow. Anyway, hopefully over time, the real consumer reviews will outnumber the fake reviews.
  • nozferatnozferat Member Posts: 11
    By the way, while this car improves mileage over all of the other POS products Ford makes, how does buying this car help at all the problem we have in this country and world of addiction to oil?

    If it isn't a better time to highlight it, the entire Gulf Coast is in the process of being FUBARed yet no one around here seems to give a rat's [non-permissible content removed].

    An no, 40 MPG in this day and age is no breakthrough and won't make a damn's worth if a dent in the problem we have.

    Pretty sad and pathetic folks.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    edited May 2010
    Hmmmmm,....got a few question for ya. Do you own a car or truck or motorcycle? Do you ever ride in a car or a bus? Do you own anything that was transported by a truck or plane or a ship. How about the computer you are using right now,...was it shipped from overseas? I could go on and on but you're not worth any more of time.

    See ya! ;)
  • nozferatnozferat Member Posts: 11
    That's the most retarded argument....

    Yes I ride a bus...etc....but instead of driving everyday to work, I bike once in a while, I take the bus most of the time....

    Does that mean that you need to waste or not find other ways of using energy? WTF is wrong with you?

    We have available technologies NOW to produce safe, clean energy in our own country....would you prefer we keep sending money and people overseas and have endless wars and destroy countries? Sound like a better plan to you?
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    You're funny. :D I sense you have anger issues.
  • m6userm6user Member Posts: 3,181
    I think you want the Hummer forum.
  • nozferatnozferat Member Posts: 11
    LOL...I sense you're an idiot.
  • craigmricraigmri Member Posts: 243
    nozferat, This is a Fiesta forum. Take your political rants and insults to other posters somewhere else.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Let's drop the personal commentary and stick the discussion the Fiesta please.
  • puffin1puffin1 Member Posts: 276
    edited May 2010
    I have this forum on my watched items,not that I'm getting a Fiesta,but I'm tryin' to see what' coming.
    Take a fews days off and all hell breaks loose. The Fiesta is for baby boomers on a fixed income,or a kids first car on a low budget.
    We in America are not going to get the real German feel of a Fiesta made in Germany. This car is not the end all or be all you can be.It's a Mini wannabe,but lets hope the quality is better.
    Yup, I'd want an armrest,4 wheel ABS and multi level heated seatsand an eternal temp display(Bluetooth) standard on the cars the wife and I have now)
    May, I dare mention the Polo has all these features,the Mazda 2 might turn you on also.Remember this country dosen't get the numerous models,Ford and GM sell in Eurpoe.WE are La Vien Rose. :shades:
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Sorry dude but I don't fall into either of your two catagories of buyers. I'm 45 and buying the Fiesta because it's the best car out there for the money that meets all my "wants" criteria. The Polo and Mazda 2 don't exist yet. BTW, the suspension is actually better on the NA Fiesta vs the Euro. Ford stiffened it up to make up for the extra 100 lbs the Fiesta gained over here. Take off the all-season tires and put on some performance summer tires and the NA will be more nimble.
  • rebel71rebel71 Member Posts: 87
    I'm eagerly awaiting to test drive the Fiesta, on paper it seems like a great little car. I've followed the Focus forums and noticed a theme from the many model years, engine and transmission issues. I'm extremely hesitant to purchase this car as I'm thinking it being a first year production and wondering if it will have similar issues that the Focus has. I would hope that quality is improved.
  • puffin1puffin1 Member Posts: 276
    I think I'd wait a year before I bought one.You might want to rent one for a week. I always do that.
    Ford has a swap your car deal going. I guess you can try out the car before you buy.
    I tried a car for a week(rented) and I was surprised at no dead pedal, felt carpet hid by real carpet mats. . The fit and finish was good, but the auto tranny just had park,reverse ,drive and low,the gas milage was good, it had RSA 17" Goodyear Eagles on it and they are noisy and don't wear well.Plus the engine noise was noticeble, all they had to do was offer an insulation pkg. I didn't like the cigarette lighter and ash tray either. I realise the car was built this way with lighter material for better gas milage. I didn't get it though.
    Well good luck.
    Well good luck.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    I'm not aware of any current issues with the Focus. Are you talking about the 2002 model that had 13 recalls? Those days are long gone. Except for a problem with the AWD PTU and some transmission shifting problems with the V6 tranny in the Edge and Fusion (neither of which would affect the Focus) I don't recall a lot of powertrain issues.
  • m6userm6user Member Posts: 3,181
    What kind of car did you rent? Plus, how do you know the tires don't wear well after a one week rental? And what do you mean by "felt carpet hid by real carpet mats"?
  • puffin1puffin1 Member Posts: 276
    Mazda 3S GT about the tires I know the tires were no good by the post on here and Mazda heard the complaints and switched to another tire. Some people only got 10 k or less on them.
    The capet is felt and the summer mats are velcrowed down and it cost $75.00 for rubber ones that fit over a post.Also, the seats were heated only, they were not multi leveled so as heat went up your back. Same as new Fiesta.
  • puffin1puffin1 Member Posts: 276
    edited June 2010
    Mazda 3S GT about the tires I know the tires were no good by the post on here and Mazda heard the complaints and switched to another tire. Some people only got 10 k or less on them.
    The carpet is felt and the summer mats are velcrowed down and it cost $75.00 for rubber ones that fit over a post.Also, the seats were heated only, they were not multi leveled so as heat went up your back. Same as new Fiesta.
  • randydriverrandydriver Member Posts: 262
    Does anyone actually own one of these yet???? :confuse:
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    As of yet, nothing has shipped from the plant in Mexico. Soonest anyone could take delivery will most likely be another 2 to 3 weeks out. As soon as I find out they are loading them on trains I'll post it here. Could be any day now.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    When are you guys going to take down that fake review?
  • nopalnopal Member Posts: 4
    I work for a Ford dealership and I've already taken care of that. Edmunds has confirmed that the review has been taken down. However, it may take up to 24 hours for the website to update.

    Thank you all for your concern.
  • nopalnopal Member Posts: 4
    Correction: It may take up to the end of the week for the site to be updated.
  • audreyalityaudreyality Member Posts: 8
    This review was reported by more than 8 people as fake last week:
    Proof

    And Edmunds told one person it'd be cleaned up with Sunday maintenance. It remains. This is ridiculous. If I was Ford I'd be angry.
  • nopalnopal Member Posts: 4
    Agreed. The powers that be at Ford have already been informed.
  • nopalnopal Member Posts: 4
    The fake review has finally been removed by Edmunds.com. A very heartfelt thank you to all for helping correct this wrong.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    For the last week Fiestas have been shipping by rail out of Mexico. You should start to see them at dealerships in the next couple of weeks if you're interested in taking a test drive.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    The Fit wins, but it seems so only if you care about back seat space, for everyone else it would appear to be the Fiesta, based on their write-up.

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/hatchbacks/1006_ford_fiesta_honda_fit_toyota- _yaris_nissan_versa_comparison/2010_toyota_yaris.html

    As I had predicted, the criticism of the back seat has begun, just like the Contour. Really, if a buyer plans to use the back seat a lot, I'd think they'd at least be looking at a Focus or Civic not Fiesta or Fit.
  • puffin1puffin1 Member Posts: 276
    edited June 2010
    Maybe, I' d wait until next yr. when the Focus hatch comes out.
    However, the Fit does have more cargo space,but lacks options I want. I want Blue Tooth hands free, Mulitilvel heated seat like VW Golf, Subaru Impezda has that heats your back as well as butt.(Synch also)
    Do you think the Fiesta would be a Home depot car? Compared to the Fit (except for cargo space) and the others Yaris, Versa,I think the Fiesta wins hands down. :shades:
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    edited June 2010
    While I personally can't stand how most small cars drive, including the Fit, the car does have decent room in the rear for a regular sized adult. It's hands-down the best small car out there in terms of fitting 4 people in it and carrying cargo around.

    But, it's a LONG way from even a Mini, which I'd rate as better than average.(steering is overly dampened, front-wheel drive, and horrendously large turning radius considering its tiny wheelbase)

    A Yaris, OTOH, actually feels worse than a Kia Rio. You'd be better off getting a used *anything* for 12K than a Yaris.

    Something like a Fiesta very well might hit that sweet spot, but only if you get a manual. As noted in that review, Ford still can't seem to make a decent automatic.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Yeah, that was the strangest review. Sure, the Fiesta was better than the Fit in every category except cargo space. Apparently MT wanted to know which was the best minivan. And I'll admit, the Fit is the best minivan.
  • matt712matt712 Member Posts: 6
    I just visited my closest Ford Dealer after having received a call informing me that they received two of the sedans this week. I was in the market for a new honda civic, but after taking the fiesta around the block a few times, I fell in love.

    The one I drove was an automatic and it was loaded to the teeth. Road noise wasn't too bad (then again I'm used to a cobalt). Steering was excellent. Engine power was a little lacking at times, but for the most part it was there when I needed it.

    The interior is what really sold it to me. The front seats were roomy and the dash/instrumentation were awesome. The salesman was sitting in the back seat and unfortunately for him he was a pretty hefty fellow (probably slowed the car significantly) and he looked incredibly tight back there. The car itself though was way bigger and much better-looking than I expected.

    Salesmen said they'll be getting a large shipment the 3rd week of July but most of those would be pre-orders.
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    I remember the current-generation electric-steering Civic Coupe LX has horrible ride comfort & "worse than some video game" steering feel (per Car & Driver).

    The Fiesta is cheaper & better, but an used '07 Focus SES is even better (hydraulic Euro steering, multilink Euro ride, & Euro-size high chairs front & back!), & way way cheaper today :P

    I would go find an used '07 Focus SES sedan in mint condition especially if you need auto, or the the sporty '07 ST sedan stick w/ "muscle-size" 4-cyl.

    I really couldn't stand the current Fiesta's rearward visibility corners being blocked by the rear headrests, even in seden body style.

    I like old sedans' wide rearward visibility, especially the '91-96 Escort/Tracer sedan & 96-'00 Civic sedan.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    If you have the time, I would be really interested if you would now test drive a new civic and report back here which car you prefer. Do you remember which model you drove?
  • matt712matt712 Member Posts: 6
    I actually did test drive a new 2010 Civic lx automatic about a month ago, in fact I learned how to drive stick on my friend's 2008 civic lx sedan.

    The Fiesta I drove was an automatic SEL model and it had leather trimmed seats w/ push button ignition. Personally, I liked the fiesta better. I liked the zippier handling and the cockpit was sportier. All of the tech and features make the fiesta feel like a truly "modern car" and since I myself am a 21 year old tech savvy college student the fiesta appeals to me more for that reason.

    The civic was by no means any less of a car however, it just doesn't suit me as well as the fiesta, since I don't plan on using it as a family sedan. Plus after driving a used '05 Stratus for 3 years, I would like my first new car to stand out from the crowd.

    I hope that this answered your questions Iamz. I would still like to take a look at the Mazda2 before I make a final decision though.
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    edited June 2010
    Thanks for offering up that quick comparison matt712. The Mazda2 should be a pretty good car also and I know they are pricing it lower than the Fiesta. I think the base model is supposed to come in at just under $14k including destination. You might also want to check out the Fiesta SE 5-door hatch. Looks sportier than the SEL sedan and the base model is about $15,700 including destination.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    Put 2400 km on a rental Fiesta hatchback in Norway over 9 days. The car was not the quietest, but was okay...seemed about like my 2007 Mazda6 in that respect. Quieter than a Focus, at least any of them I have been in. Seats were comfortable for us, which is usually the case with Fords. Ours had no seat height adjustment and I'd have liked it to be a bit higher.

    We had initially been given some kind of Toyota hatch that is not sold here and I went back to Hertz the second day to get something different as the Toyota wanted to go off the road to the right anytime there was any crown to the road (the seats were too small also, as I usually find with Toyotas). The Fiesta tracked straight on all the roads, I am assuming this was at least partly due to compensation for the road slope built into the electric PS.

    It was a 1.4L diesel that got about 60 mpg!

    It was a nice little car, but not sure I'd buy one when it seems maybe a Fusion can be purchased for about the same price for now.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    No way you can get a Fusion for the same price as a Fiesta unless you're talking about a fully loaded Fiesta and a stripped Fusion. Let's stick to apples and apples.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    Well, I've seen newspaper ads in the last couple of days with Fusions and Milans under $16K. I assume the Fiesta will not be discounted initially and the hatchback starts at about that same price.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    Those are "loss leaders" or shady advertising. The cheapest Fusion right now is the super stripped S model at $17K after rebates. Sometimes they'll advertise a price assuming you're eligible for ALL rebates which never happens (military, college, etc.).

    No way you can buy a decently equipped Fusion for under $16K new.
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