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2008 Honda Civic Problems and Repairs

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  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    You should go to a local decal shop, get large lemon stickers made and stick them all over your car, and park the car next the the dealer you got your car from on weekends when the dealer is closed. One guy from my local area did that with a Nissan Altima, and the dealer and Nissan setled and he got another brand new leftover demo in exchange for his lemon and he's been happy ever since.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    glad to know! I on the other hand will get a heart attack fighting for my lemon, under warranty, problems appeared at 4mos old. I am speaking, but they are not listening. feels like 1910, not 2010. They do not listen to women! and, they are stupid. cheers
  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    I'm telling you the last thing you dealer wants is for you to park your car close to their dealership with huge lemon stickers on it. I would be willing to bet they would listen to you then. There's nothing they can do to stop you from putting large lemon stickers on your car. Even better if you drive all over town with the sticker on. It will get their attention.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    excellent-I have thought of this! the car is not safe to drive-their a lack of oxygen in the car. when I drive it I get sick for 2 days.

    however, I am at last resorts, so I may actually do this! where to buy lemon stuckers?
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    and, by the way, thanks so much to you all for your suggestions. they are helpful.

    I have tried everything, to include calling the dealer every night for 7 weeks, yes I am not kidding. they have called back, and sent registered letters, stating any further tests would be at my expense! Honda Canada does not call back. Nor have they responded to a letter addressed to the CEO 2 months ago. All is a ok when there is no problem.......but when there is a problem, and, money involved, look out.

    Even transport canada has not called back.
  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    edited March 2010
    I would start at a Car detailing shop where they do custom stripping or stickers. You could also check with sign companies that make stickers for vehicles for business purposes. It might cost you a few dollars for the bright lemmon stickers, but you will get their attention. Back home, the guy that did this with his Black Nissan Altima got ignored at first by the dealer thinking he would go away but he didn't. He kept driving his car all over town, and parked next to their dealership whenever he had a chance. He had huge lemon stickers on the hood, side doors and rear window. It was hillarious at first but he ended up getting what he wanted. I'm not sure exactly was was wrong with his car though...

    Good luck
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    hilarious. how long before he got results?
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    also, are you in canada or the us?
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    sorry, last thing! Did this guy have actual stickers of lemons, or the word lemon on a sticker?? curious

    thanks again
  • sparklandsparkland Member Posts: 120
    Ever think of driving with the window rolled down? Sorry you are having problems with your Civic, but your claims seem rather exaggerated. Anything is repairable.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    Wow, sounds like you are cut from the same cloth as the dealer. Who are you to say my claims are exaggerstaed?

    I have professional environmental testing, which states excessive oxygen levels in the car while running. I am told not the drive it. Considering it makes one sick for 2 days upon driving, I deem it also unsafe. You maybe should read about oxygen before judging. Low/high amounts are toxic. People can die from not enough or too much oxygen. Why don't you try breathing low/high oxygen fluctuations? See how it works for you.

    Yes, everything is fixable, I agree. But the dealer is too LAZY AND STUPID to bother to look for the problem. if you have read my complaint, they are ignoring me. They are not testing the car, They are doing nothing. They are [non-permissible content removed].

    And no, driving with the windows down lessens the problem, but does not solve it. Clearly I have thought of this, and have done this, actually long before the testing.

    There should not be anything wrong with this car. Problems started at 4 months. My past honda was a 95 yes, it ran to perfection, and was not in the garage for 12 years! The now honda civic 08 is a lemon, and first showed electrical problems at 1 week old.

    How dare you state that I am exaggerating. It is this narrow minded attitude that has me without a car to drive for the past 11 months. You share the attitude of the dealer.

    civic nightmare
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    By the way, why should I have to drive with all the windows down? Below zero winter weather is not conducive to driving w the windows down. nor is rain, cold, and wet. This is why bought a car, not a bicycle.unbelievable
  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    edited March 2010
    He had actual mostly lemon stickers and if I recall, he had the word lemon written on a couple of spots on his car. I started seeing these ealry in the Summer, and had negotiated with them by September. So it took him about 5 months. And this was in Canada. He even parked the car next to the dealer's parking lot with an open hood. It was funny but had most likely gone through a nightmare like you, so I guess I should not have been laughing. I was laughing at the dealer and Nissan and not the car owner, so I guess it was ok.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    thank you! I ordered stickers of lemons, and the word lemon, today, Will be ready Mon. I then will park the car in designated areas, to include that close to the dealer.

    Apparently, I am not the first to do this in my area. Guy cited a jag owner who did the same, and a ford owner. Great idea.
  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    I can't wait to see the outcome. Keep us posted and good luck. ;)
  • jet10000jet10000 Member Posts: 656
    Listen to your explanation from your earlier post:

    And, the oxygen level is low, and spikes high low on driving. that is it. the headaches etc, if you look it up, come from low/high oxygen levels. the symptoms fit low oxygen.

    low, high low, low/high, low. Huh?

    If your car was truly tested by a professional, then you should be able to state that optimum percentage of oxygen is between x% and y% and at this time it reaches below x% and at this time it went above y%.

    But the way you're communicating about the matter is not clear.

    In addition, the cabin just intakes air through exterior vents, so the amount of oxygen should not vary much from the oxygen in the outside enviroment. How is the car changing the amount of oxygen in the cabin? Internal combustion engines do not produce oxygen. They produce carbon monoxide. So it's not coming from there. So where is it coming from? Your environmental specialist should be able to determine this.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    Sorry my explanantion is not to your liking. optimum oxygen settles at 20.3, 20.2, and reaches 25 at x, 18.5 at y. Is this better for your standards? I'll be sure to pass your insult on to the scientist who detects gas etc for a living. Forgive me for simplifing tests results for a car forum! Didn't realize I needed the same standards as a court room requires.

    Generally, when you write, you should write so that the average human understands. Use of x and y, etc, is not normal conversation language. but thanks anyway for your input.

    I have no idea what is causing this problem, and frankly nor do I care at this point. the problem exists. Car was brought to the dealer, and they failed miserably at diagnosing. It is their job to diagnose and fix, not mine.

    bottom line-there is a problem, and I can not drive the car. This is a nightmare. In a car, at 6 months old, there should not be any problems. this is when problems were noted. problem has existed for 11 months. 11 months.

    A car uses oxygen to run-it mixes fuel and air. the oxygen in my car is unusually abnormal.

    What is your explanation for this, as you seem to have all the answers?

    civic owner
  • jet10000jet10000 Member Posts: 656
    Didn't realize I needed the same standards as a court room requires.

    Yes, you would need those standards and court is the appropriate place for this dispute.

    You would need:

    1) The detailed results of the test that you already had performed showing the levels of the oxygen when they left the optimum range.
    2) Actual scientific studies showing what ranges of oxygen are safe and unsafe.
    3) A scientific determination on where the additional oxygen is coming from. (or when it goes low, how it is being removed. ) The engine doesn't produce oxygen nor does the air conditioner nor heater. It is up to the expert to figure this out. Perhaps you are not the first to discover this situation and perhaps this work is already completed. But no automobile dealer has trained scientists on staff to do this work.

    You could also have other Civics of the same year tested for the same issue. If that is found then you could do a class action suit. If not, then you simply file suit against Honda, present your evidence, get a judgment and then it will be up to Honda engineers to figure out the issues involved.

    If there are no government regulations regarding cabin oxygen, then a government entity will not be able to assist you either.

    That's the correct procedure to resolve this matter. Calling a dealer to have them discover where extra oxygen is coming from is a waste of time as they do not have the technical knowledge to diagnose the problem.

    If you do not want to follow that course, then simply sell the vehicle. Perhaps a person with less oxygen sensitivity than yourself would have no issues whatsoever.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    who are you?

    I simply bought a new car, a Honda, as I expect it, like past hondas I have owned, to be problem free for a long time.

    at 6 months, the car started making me sick, At 4 months, the brakes failed.
    In both cases, this means there is something wrong with the car.

    11 months later, and after me attempting to resolve car issues, I still have a car that I can not drive.

    This frankly is a hassle, a hassle that I do not want and did not ask for.

    my post is to warn others of honda issues . my honda is not the quality I have come to expect.

    Additionally, the car was and is under warranty, which means that honda should be solving its problems, not me!!!

    the dealer is/was negligent. They did not honor the warranty, and did not thoroughly attempt to diagnose my cars' problems.

    I am not oxygen sensitive, as you rudely and narrow mindedly state. Low oxygen means there is a problem. I am told not to drive the car-it is unsafe. I am not interested in driving a car that causes headaches and dizziness. your statement equals that of the dealer, who has attempted to put the onus for my car problem on me.

    The dealer has passed the buck to honda canada, honda canada has passed the buck to the dealer. I am caught in the middle. I am left holding the financial obligation for a problem car.This makes me a victim.

    the crux of the matter is that the dealer was and is TOO STUPID AND LAZY to find my car problem. they do not care. they have failed to do their job, as it is their responsibility to solve problems with my new vehicle, under warranty.

    I have been told to wear sunglasses while driving! I have been told that my "aggressive driving" is the problem. The owner of the dealership has stated that if I drove an automatic, not a standard (which mine is), the problem would go away..How stupid is this???? These findings are written in the report from the dealer.

    If I do sue Honda, I am fully aware of what is necessary to do so. This is not the point of my post.

    the point of my post is to say as loudly as I can that my new honda is a problem, and that my dealer and manufacturer have done NOTHING to honor the warranty on my vehicle.

    At 11 months and counting, I own a car that can not be driven.

    please don't respond to me again.
  • cj7375cj7375 Member Posts: 15
    I have 2007 Civic LX and find it very dependable car. Yes, it had the back "lower arm" thingy replaced and some other TSB done on my regular oil changes.

    But that is it. Yes, the car is noisy, but that is normal for Honda. But not too noisy. I will be replacing the tires soon, and I will buy quieter tires.

    Never heard of the oxigen problem before. And I can not find a reasonable explanation for that. Honestly, I do not even see how this is possible to happen. I am not saying it is not happening, but the car does not produce oxigen, neither deprives the car's cabine of it. So, how can this possibly happen ...

    O.K. here is what I am going to do. Since I work with Combustion analyzers that actually measure CO, CO2, and Oxigen, I will drive my Civic with the analizer inside while watching the readings.

    My analizer is professional grade (cost approx. $1,000) and it is not sold to the public, so I trust it.
  • cj7375cj7375 Member Posts: 15
    I just want to add something. Normal O2 level in the air should be 20.9% or rounded to 21%.

    However, some cities in the world have recorded O2 levels of 12%. That is very low.

    At 7% level of O2, life stops to exist.
  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    Got a question for you:

    Have you had anyone else drive your car and got the same symptoms? As I did a bit of internet research, if nobody else gets the same symptoms as you while driving your car, this means that you may have developed a sensivity to motion/car sickness which may explain why the dealer suggest you drive an automatic transmission with smoother shifting. Were all your previous Hondas standard or auto? How long do you have to drive the car before you start feeling sick? My apoligies if you already verified this and I'm not trying to defend the dealer or Honda, but simply trying to help you find a solution.

    Cheers...
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    Now, jones, you must be a man to make such a statement! You have been helpful and nice, I do appreciate.

    try and understand that we women, myself included, are intelligent enough to know whether we are getting car sick, or to know if the car is a problem.
    my car has been tested to find low oxygen-which spikes high and low when driving-alarms have sounded. Low oxygen causes headaches, dizziness, and nausea.

    and yes, I always drive a standard. and, yes, my male neighbour took the car out. he got an earache. Also symptom of low oxygen.

    I do understand you are trying to help, but pleae don't assume because we are women, it is all in our head, or, we are sensitive.

    I've had to live my life this way, and you can see how difficult it is-it has been 11 months, no car, no solution. If Ii was a man, I would not be in this situation.

    the dealer also told me to see the doctor. this is demeaning,and something I resent.

    as I say, I do appreciate your help !
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    thanks! it has been sugegsted a few times to me that the cabin air filter may be dirty/blocked, causing this problem. It would be hilarious if this was it-the dealer would really be a dummy then. I plan to take the car to can tire tomorrow to change.check filter. It has been 11 months.

    i am interested to know the o reading in your civic. I am borrowing my neighbours fit, which does not have the same problem as mine. I have also had an automatic from the dealer way back, which was also ok
  • jet10000jet10000 Member Posts: 656
    edited March 2010
    the point of my post is to say as loudly as I can that my new honda is a problem, and that my dealer and manufacturer have done NOTHING to honor the warranty on my vehicle.

    At 11 months and counting, I own a car that can not be driven.

    please don't respond to me again.


    Well just as I respect your right to make such allegations in an open forum, I also will exercise my right to defend Honda against allegations if they don't align with known scientific information.

    There simply is no known way for an automobile to produce higher levels of oxygen than would normally be found in the air around the vehicle.

    In theory it's possible for the oxygen to be lower if carbon monoxide produced by the engine was somehow entered into the cabin. I suppose it's also possible that the cabin's oxygen could decline if the cabin was not properly ventilated so that the normal breathing of the cabin's occupants decreased the oxygen and increased the carbon dioxide.

    But earlier posts talked of oxygen spikes which are not possible as there would be no source for the extra oxygen. The Honda limited warranty does not cover "too much oxygen" in the cabin.

    Just because an illness occurred soon after you drove the vehicle is no guarantee that the vehicle was responsible. There could be a number of physical and/or psychological factors involved which could require the consultation of the appropriate medical personnel to be resolved.

    Regardless, if modifications to the car by the dealer have not made the vehicle so that you feel comfortable driving it, then my previous advice remains---you should sell the vehicle. As there is no law that I know of restricting the amount of oxygen in the vehicle, then Honda could not be held liable for high oxygen test results that you might have seen.

    So instead of letting the car continue to depreciate, just sell it and get a vehicle that maintains oxygen levels to your satisfaction.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    forgot to include....the dealer / owner, on the second call I made to him personally-the call in which he hung up in my ear mid sentence, for the second time......

    after telling me how he was losing sleep over my car problem.....wish he knew what to do.....

    stated that he was unable to lose money by trading in my standard for an automatic-the dealer is a millionaire in the community, who has just donated 1 million to the local Y.

    great member of society. when I stated that this my 3rd honda purchase from him, and he would lose my business, he laughed.

    The dealer has been rude to me from the start-mechanics, head mechanic, owner.

    Way back when, at the start of this, they gave me a loaner car,. When they failed to diagnose my car, they asked for the loaner back. The service manager told me that if the car was not back by noon Sat, that he would file the car as stolen with the police.

    how's that for respect? Feels like 1910, not 2010.

    they've basically, dismissed my car issue, from the start.

    I did mention the brakes failed 2x-literally, there was no brake-like hitting a brick wall. This they blamed on my 'aggressive driving".

    In Feb I received a letter from them stating that any further work-this is diagnosis -on my car, would be at their standard hourly rate-car is under warranty, they did not do their job, did not call honda tech line,etc, but now I am supposed to pay for them to not find what is wrong with my car.

    All the boys at honda DROVE my car, and when they didn't get a headache, stated there is nothing wrong. Also, when the brakes worked for them, they stated there was no problem.

    On the first visit to honda, the service manager told me I would have to get the lease canceled, as they could not find the problem. This translates to

    I can not problem solve. I can work on a car if you tell me what to do, but I can't figure out what is wrong with it. welcome to my city.

    Enjoy
  • cj7375cj7375 Member Posts: 15
    the cabine's air filter is replaced in 30 sec.

    here is how ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axqD4kSORG4

    That could be your problem.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    thanks! can tire took out the old filter today, which is blocked with dirt, and black...but did not have replacement in stock. Tomorrow, I plan to get one.

    I hope this works!
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 6,953
    Even though you seem to have problems with your car, folks are trying to give you help here. When you don't agree or don't like the answer, your "attitude" rears it's ugly head. Honestly, loose the attitude and just tell the poster "thanks" for responding. Sell the car already & move on. The stress will kill you and it's making the many forums you've posted in a bit "hostile". We don't do "hostile" here in Edmunds.com...this is a fun website for folks to chat and not face your attitude when you disagree.

    I was brought up with the phrase..."you get more with honey than vinegar" which is indeed true. You will never be happy with Honda whatever they end up doing so it's time to move on.

    The Sandman :sick: :shades:

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • nmarcel1nmarcel1 Member Posts: 21
    I have a 2009 Honda Civic LXS with 7K... in the past few weeks (weather was colder) the car was hard to start.... it sounded like a weak battery when cranking.... but the car started eventually. This happen a few times in the past month or two.... I checked the battery and alternator with a volt meter and the battery is charging at 12.5 volts with car off... when I start it the battery is charging at 13.75 volts.... I put a load on the car and see the volts drop slightly and then go back up which is normal.... I've checked the battery terminals (tight and not dirty).... has this happened to anyone else?? The car is not even a year old and has low miles. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    my 08 civic is hard to start on cold winter mornings-I have no idea why-someone has told me this is a problem
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    fair enough-point taken-apologies to you and those who are offering help. attitude gone.

    the particular post you've read, however, did insult me, and this I responded to.

    wish I could sell it-have been trying to pass on the lease. unfortunately, it is not that simple. am stuck with it for the moment
  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    Yes you are correct, I'm a man. Also, I have never been car sick, sea sick, motion or whatever, but my wife does get this on occasion. In the car, this would only apply when she's a passenger trying to read a book or something. BTW, I'm not questionning the intelligence of women as I don't even know what being car sick feels like, therefore do not understand it. I know one thing for sure is that you will never buy another car/honda from that dealer you're dealing with and would do the same.

    Have you gotten any Lemon stickers yet? :shades:
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    thanks, Jones! hope I have not offended you-not at all my intention. My claws, however, are out, thanks to the local Honda dealer.

    I have not done the lemon stickers yet, as I wanted to try changing the air cabin filter first. I have had a few people suggest this.

    I just did this today-not sure if it yet worked.

    Having driven the car to change the filter, was enough to make me nauseous and give me a headache-still lasting, from early today. To the point I can not concentrate after driving-as a cause of driving.

    Whatever is wrong, it is acute, and, not good.

    Will drive again tomorrow, to see if it is any better.

    if not, will proceed with the lemon stickers. My neighbour is enthused to help me in this!

    will let you know, and, thanks again.
  • lisa311lisa311 Member Posts: 2
    I'm just wondering if any of you have filed a complaint with NHTSA. Getting my new tires and alignment tomorrow......we'll see how this goes. BTW, I did file a complaint. I was amazed at how many had been filed already. If any of you have changed the tires, has it helped? I switched from Bridgestone to a different brand.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    sorry, wish I could help! I don't actually have tire problems(yet)...just other problems

    I did read about tire problems in new civics, while researching my own problem-there are mega complaints, in both US and Canada, and as mentioned, a lawsuit in progress.
    (auto beefs, etc)
    good luck!
  • sparklandsparkland Member Posts: 120
    My solution would be to sell the car immediately before the value depreciates any more. If as you say it has been sitting for nearly eleven months, then the mileage should be low, which will give you bargaining power.
  • nmarcel1nmarcel1 Member Posts: 21
    I understand that cars will struggle a bit in very cold weather conditions to start but the few times this happened to me the engine was cranking and as it continued to crank it got slower and slower... kind of the symptoms when your battery is going to die... but then the engine eventually started.... I let it run for a few minutes and then shut it off and re started and the engine kicked over with no problem... so, as I mentioned, I checked the battery, alternator and cables and all was ok.... that is why I can't understand the struggle to start on those days.... warm weather is coming so I suspect this will not happen again until next winter... I'll have to keep checking it.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    thanks, I appreciate. however, I have been trying to pass on the lease for months-lease rates are now lower than mine is , and no one has been interetsed, to date.

    not that simple.

    Additionally, after driving the car myself Tues to change the air filter-I am still sick today, 3 days later. seems the low oxygen count can not stand alone-I am convinced that the low o is because of carbon monoxide in the car.Symptoms for both are the same. So. how do I pass on a sick car?

    Unlike the dealer and honda canada I have a conscience.
  • kmakerkmaker Member Posts: 20
    Hi Lisa,
    Sorry I haven't been replying, had some tech issues. Anyway, your symptoms were exactly the same as what I was experiencing but I couldn't get Honda Canada to do anything about it, not even replace the control arms that I'm told are the issue. The tires should be replaced by Honda, no question that it was an engineering fault of some kind that (since you have now had the control arms replaced for) they have assumed liability in my opinion. As for the alignment, interesting that they wouldn't have addressed this at the time of the suspension parts being replaced. It's "alignment 101" (as I recall from my many year of working in the automotive field as a mechanic) that the tires are in good shape. So, either they did the alignment after the parts were replaced and ignored the shape of the tires at that time, or chose to turn a blind eye as the tire replacement could have been more easily blamed on the suspension parts (control arms) being the issue. Trust me, the road noise you hear will vanish with new tires and you shouldn't take the chance on driving with the ones you have on the car....either way, get new tires. Lastly, I'm pleased to say that I sold my Honda back to the dealer that I bought it from. It cost me about $10,000.00 but I couldn't deal with the frustration any longer so to me it was worth it.....never again. While at the dealership, I found it ironic that they are selling a "tire replacement" warranty that can be purchased....wonder why. :)
    Paul
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    hi

    wanted to let you know that I'm not lisa-my problem is not tires, but something else!

    thanks!
  • jonesbb630jonesbb630 Member Posts: 31
    He was replying to lisa311 and not civicowner3.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    Hi,

    I am wondering if you did ever test the co, etc in your civic. it seems the company that tested for me has a device that only picks up oxygen depletion etc, but not the reason for. Carbon monoxide,and/ or other things can cause the oxygen to be low, so I am told.

    I am curious to know if other civics are low on oxygen, thus the inquiry.

    This might be a lot of trouble for you to do, so not to worry if you can't. Yet, I am curious what your civic reads.

    thanks!

    civic owner
  • kmakerkmaker Member Posts: 20
    Hi,
    Nope, didn't do that but complained about "surging" symptoms that I thought were as a result of a "lean" air-fuel mixture, which in turn would cause poor CO readings. My car acted up (it was gutless) when it was warm outside and that's a function of oxygen or fuel density issue that's supposed to be corrected by O2 sensors and the "brain" of the car....didn't work. Either way, it was a performance issue that wasn't accounted for (or at least didn't work) in my car. Other symptoms would be the smell of the exhaust that whether lean (too much oxygen and not enough fuel) or rich (basically the opposite) but my car was OK in that regard other than the performance and a bunch of other things as I've mentioned previously. I also thought it had to do with a blocked/plugged exhaust system or catalytic converter at one point but couldn't be bothered to check it and nor would the dealer.
    I just checked some of the comments posted by a lady that experienced nausea in some form. Can you advise her to try driving the car with the heater or AC turned off? I forgot that I had a heater motor that had a really high pitched squeal that I couldn't "hear" that actually gave me headaches until I figured out what it was. I once had a GM product that did the same thing. By the time I took my Honda in for repair, the dealership couldn't help but hear it because I had to let it get to the point of squealing as I knew they wouldn't do anything about it. The test (granted, not scientific) is to turn the heater on at low speed, drive around for awhile, then turn it off, completely. If it's what I think, there is instant relief and if not, then something else (contour of the windshield maybe?) is the cause. From what I've read, and I love the passion, it doesn't sound anything like an Oxygen ratio or exhaust leaking into the cabin...really nothing to do with it in my opinion.
    I'll check on line in a couple of days and see the chats.
    Cheers,
    Paul ;)
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    Hello,

    I am the person whose civic is making me nauseaous! Wanted to respond that I have driven with the air on, off, heat on , off......car is best with the recirculation button on, but I still get sick. I get ridiculous headaches, I have to wait for them to go away. Note that I am a health nut-a runner, non smoker, healty eater, never sick, never catch anything, never get headaches, never get nauseaous.

    last Tues I drove the car in traffic, 10 min to get the in cabin air filter changed. I was sick until Sunday-the symptoms fade over time.

    I get a fierce headache , and literally can not think-my brain does not work. thank God it wears off.
    I get nauseaous-lasts for days.
    I get tired-I slept and slept for 5 days after driving the car.

    The symptoms are quite serious, and are those of co.

    the testing seemingly tested oxygen only, which was low, and changed while driving.

    therefore, the car sits in my driveway, and honda and honda canada are ignoring me.

    If there is not an exhaust leak, or, a loose nut/ bolt somewhere, I think the car is just leaky-exhaust from the street is pulled into the car. I can not figure anything else!

    Thanks!
  • jet10000jet10000 Member Posts: 656
    The symptoms are quite serious, and are those of co.

    the testing seemingly tested oxygen only, which was low,


    You should have the cabin tested for high CO levels to see if that is the case.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    I've been trying! no one will, or can!
  • lwnclwnc Member Posts: 1
    I have had the same problem and did not realize that others incountered it as well. I went ahead a replaced the battery in fear that I would be stranded somewhere. Since then my Civic has started just fine. Prior to changing the battery I incoundered this problem in warm weather as well... the hesitaion to start. I said something to the dealer but as always they said that they found nothing wrong. Thank you for sharing.
  • csweencsween Member Posts: 3
    My Honda Civic needs front brakes every 10,000 miles or less. I need to dump this car but I am upside down, I owe more than I can get but I can't keep paying for brakes. After reading posts about tires and alignment I think I have these problems too. It is a really rough ride,my Mom's 99 Civic rides better than mine . I have alittle over 40,000 miles on it . Never buying a Honda again.
  • civicowner3civicowner3 Member Posts: 47
    hello,

    With sincerity, my heart bleeds for you-honda are, well, I can't print that here. Find Christopher Brown, lawyer, in the US, and if in Canada, they have partners filing suits. Also, there is a class action suit re tires in BC-you can find all this online.

    I am also out 15,000.00 and counting. the latest is that my car may be mouldy-the air system. I will have to fly someone from another area in to test.

    hondas license to sell and manufacture cars should be revoked, in my opinion.

    I for one, when I get to the bottom of my ordeal, will sue them til they bleed

    hope you do the same

    1 question: how did you know the brakes were a problem?Did they fail? If so, how?

    how has Honda treated you? Did they ignore you? and, the dealer?

    good luck
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