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I know others claim more, and believe me my wife drives this vehicle very conservatively, so I don't know where these other figures are coming from. Especially those over the EPA numbers....
I've got a V8. But if you don't tow, I suggest you get the V6. It is a bit more fuel efficent (still not great) and every little bit helps these days.
One option that really adds to the ride is the X-REAS suspension - there is zero side to side rocking-jiggling-wobbling over any dips or uneven roads... this truck feels really stable at any speed.
I traded a jeep grand cherokee on my 4runner... by comparison the JGC feels like a light wobbly and noisy POS - and, as a bonus, fully lived up to chrysler's legendary bad reliabilty reputation.
There are no reliability issues with the V6. As a matter of fact, I believe the V8 has a timing BELT, that needs to be replaced at a certain interval.....
Someone is going to have to tell us what the cut-off dates are since we don't have a Generations story for the 4Runner up yet. I guess the 1st generation went from '84 to '89 from one discussion in the archives we can pull back in.
Steve, Host
Steve, Host
I don't notice any pogo'ing at all. I have the air leveling suspension, which may have something to do with the ride.
Agree that it's pretty flat around corners, for a truck.
My biggest complaint is the idle. The v8 has good torque and when the idle increases (when ac compressor activates) the truck wants to move... it's hard to slow evenly because you have to balance the brake pressure against the engine idle-ing up or down. Passengers feel like I am stabbing the brakes because the higher idle requires more brake pressure, when the idle falls there is less power so the brakes grab.
Dealer said it's not adjustable and is controlled by the computer. I would like to disconnect whatever solenoid bumps the idle.
I need somebody to tell me how to deactivate whatever causes the idle increase/decrease. I've heard that putting trans in/out of gear is bad for tranny.
lk
Perhaps this is not a wise choice.....
... though this is the first that I have heard this claim of a skewed computer?????
The computer on my 03 V8 4Runner is 1-2 mpg optimistic. The same was true of my 2000 VW GTI GLX.
Wow, with this kind of reliability, I am going to run, not walk to the BMW dealer and get a CPO 5 series next week.
Second, they said computer, which they need to order as it takes over a week.
They have offered me a loaner but I am starting to initiate a lemon law claim, just in case.
BMW never took more than 2 days to fix anything I ever had go wrong with the car.
big - hard to tell from the Expeditions. Would go with a Highlander, but need to tow a trailer and go on jeep roads (Colorado).
mathgirl, "Toyota 4Runner: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #1350, 11 May 2006 3:18 pm
Steve, Host
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
The 4.7L V8 is only rated at 7,000 lbs (I have one).
Our former tow vehicle (a '97 Explorer 4.0L V6 w/Stick-shift) was only 2,600 lbs!
Check your manual for your specs.
Lou
Ive not driven the Lexus GX470, but I've seen plenty of them on the road, and they strike me as looking rather top-heavy and tall compared with the 4Runner. Maybe this excessive height and top-heaviness has something to do with your complaints regarding tracking and steering at highway speeds?
Aside from checking alignment, etc., I think there are two other important issues to consider: (1) The quality and condition of the tires. I firmly believe that Michelin Cross Terrains are the finest general-purpose SUV tires, and I know a number of master technicians who feel the same way. I've repeatedly heard these technicians opine that when a vehicle continues to have handling problems after all other conceivable remedies have been exhausted, a switch to a new set of Cross Terrains often solves or greatly improves the problem. (2) Even when driving on Cross Terrains, it is essential to have these or any other tires "road-force balanced". http://www.craigautometrics.com/huntergsp9700.htm If your Lexus/Toyota service center doesn't own a road-force balancing machine with trained and experienced technicians, look for another shop that does.
Thank you for your thorough response, and you're confirming a suspicion of mine ... the GX470 is top-heavy w/ too much freeboard to act like a sail. It's also interesting that you comment on the Michelin Cross Terrains ... those tires were recommended to me by a local guru on cars/trucks. Bart :shades: