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Is the AWD M going to be receiving the 7 speed at some point?
Thanks
Bruce
What is the MPG for city / hwy?
Will the HP & LBs be the same as in the G37 & FX50?
I find the M as an excellent luxury-sport sedan, but the avg. gas milage is very low compare to the Lexus GS & Hyundai Genesis.
VeraGen
The M35 and M45 HP ratings are now so close that no way can I see the M45 as worthy of its price premium, let alone the M45's strong reputation for oil-burning and engine replacement need!
Too bad the M35x missed the 7-speed auto, but the "x" and M45 have the presumed advantage of a tranny with a great track record, whose only shortcoming vis-a-vis the 7 speed is its short gearing in 5th.
Thanks for the discussion, all. Me, I'm very happy with what I bought!.
-Karl, '09 M35x
Congratulations on the new M35X purchase. You will have a lot fun with it I am sure.
As far as the power, Yes, the M35 get boosted to 303hp, but, if you look at the torque, it is actually down a bit. So, it seems that the power difference between M35 and M45 is less. But, keep in mind, it is torque that move the car, the HP is only used for top speed, which nobody will top out, even the M35 on public road - which is something around 155MPH.
So, the M45 still has an noticeable advantage over M35, especially when both mated with 5spd, the gas mileage are basically the same. I would say the M45 is still a better car. But, again, I have a M45 and loves the low to mid range power, which I think is more practical for daily usage (instead of racing).
The 2008 FX45 was rated at 13 \ 17.
The 2009 FX50 was rated at 14 \ 20.
Given the rather significant additional HP & TQ
of the 5.0L vs the 4.5L V8s,
the increase in Highway MPG of 3 MPG and
over 17% seems fairly impressive.
To me.
Sounds like the 7-speed trans helps accomplish
one intended goal.
The 2009 M45 [ and 2010, if any are actually produced ]
is rated at 16 \ 21.
An equivalent increase in Highway MPG
would bring the M50 [ non-x ] to:
23 or 24 MPG.
[ Math actually works out to 23.52 ]
Not exactly earth-shattering MPG,
but not bad for a fairly heavy sedan
[ almost exactly the same weight as my G8 GT ]
with a V8 developing 390 HP & 369 TQ.
[ Up from 325 \ 336 in the M45 ]
And this would make the M50 more competitive
in the class.
Given a likely weight increase of less than 100 LBS,
I expect that the M50 will deliver a
noticeable increase in acceleration.
I have seen published quarter mile times
in the high 13s & low 14s - at over 100
and 0 to 60 in the 5s for M45s.
And it will cost more than the M45.
[ sigh ]
That is my prediction . . .
We shall see.
- Ray
Looking forward to seeing what it looks like, tonight
In September/October this year my 15 month old (23K miles) 2009 Infiniti M35X unexpectedly and without warning stalled while the car was moving. This occurred 3 times, twice within a week before the car was serviced to correct the problem cited under NHTSA Item #10032906, Service Bulletin # ITB-10-014 and once after the the vehicle was supposedly fixed. In all three stalls the car was moving at slow speed (<10mph) and low rpm. Two of the stalls occurred while making turns, one in the face of oncoming traffic and one in a parking lot. In none of the three stalls was there any damage or injury. I was extremely lucky in that regard. The Infiniti dealer where I bought the car serviced it and informed me of the previously known and published Technical Service Bulletin cited above. The dealer explained that the "fix" was a fairly simple reprogramming of the ECM. Notwithstanding that, the vehicle stalled again within two weeks after the fix. I returned it and, of course, the dealer could not replicate the problem. I contacted Infiniti national Consumer Affairs who told me that since the dealer could not replicate the problem, there was nothing more that Infiniti would/could do. My problem with this experience is threefold: 1) Infiniti knew there was a defect with the vehicle that could cause it to stall without warning and they didn't notify me (or anyone else to my knowledge) to bring it in to make the "simple fix" before it stalled. 2) The vehicle stalled again after the "fix" was made and 3) I have no idea whether it is going to stall again. Neither does Infiniti. They knew there was a potential problem but took no action to minimize the potental for damage/injury. I told them I was not comfortable being in this situation and asked them to repurchase the car. (There have been multiple other problems with this vehicle in 15 months: inop sunroof at delivery; complete front rack & pinion assembly replaced; failed battery replaced; front brake rotors turned at less than 20K mi; seat positioning system erratic) Infiniti refused. I believe, based upon my first hand experience, that this is a safety issue. It may not be on the scale of Toyota's sudden acceleration problem. But it's not something a responsible company suffers its customers to experience while hiding behind a TSB. I submitted a safety complaint to the NHTSB and thought any of you owning or considering owning this vehicle might like to know. I believe Infiniti makes good vehicles. I just didn't get one. M-
I have been able to locate 2009/2010 black M35 with either tan or stone interior, but they are all out of state....and I am little hesitant buying over the phone without actually seeing the car....
What would you guys do in this situation.....wait for the right car or just grab the 2009 M35 available at the local dealer.....
Thanks
I am curious to hear from M owners b/c the other forums also show unhappiness from 2010/11 M35s or M45s with the 7AT. In fact, I'm in negotiations with Infiniti's Customer Service Division to Take the Car Back w/ o further costs to me....On a lease with 25 months to go. They are listening and have acknowledged that there are complaints similar to mine. The car has been checked out - there is nothing mechanically wrong nor electronically wrong. In the words of the Service Manager: "It is performing as it is designed to perform".... "Some people love it, Some people Hate it"... A "fix" is NOT forthcoming at this time...He did indicate that the Tranny runs with hestitation / lagging due to too many gears and was done to impriove the gas mileage over the entire fleet. I did NOT notice this during my fast test drive last June...If I had, I Would NOT have taken this car.
I know this is a few years late but my folks are having the same issue with their 2010 M35 and aren't getting anywhere with the dealership or Inifinit (Nissan) since it never happens while the dealership has the car. They have a monitoring device installed now but they are scared to drive the car since it might stall and lose power on the highway....any response would be greatly appreciated.
I know this is a few years late but my folks are having the same issue with their 2010 M35 and aren't getting anywhere with the dealership or Inifinit (Nissan) since it never happens while the dealership has the car. They have a monitoring device installed now but they are scared to drive the car since it might stall and lose power on the highway....any response would be greatly appreciated.
I believe when you buy an Acura you're not buying a Honda. Likewise when you buy a Lexus, I don't think you're buying a Toyota. But when you buy an Infiniti I think you're buying a Nissan. Good luck with your parent's car.
Mariner9
Good Luck