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  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    The car looks incredible in person. I love it. Aggressive and bold styling.
    When the service guy was moving the X6 it had an amazing engine sound.
    I have 15 months left on my Range Rover Sport lease. I think I will get out of the lease a few months early to get into the X6.

    I haven't been this excited about a car in a long time


    I guess that means a RR sport owner is about me to jump into a bmw.

    Range Rover better bring in their new SUV replacement before they start loosing more customers

    So will you be getting the inline 6 or the v8
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    Recently, I test drove the 3.5. My sales person let me take it out for a few hours one afternoon (instead of the usual 10 minute test drive. Buying 10 BMWs from the same sales person tends to put you at the top of their list.)

    Hour test drives sound like good. Well buying 10 car from the same dealer and from the same sales guy will definitely put any1 at the top.

    Have always been a fan of the X5 and I like the X6 even better,

    Same here or but I have always liked the cayennes as well

    especially after seeing it up close and in person. The photos make it appear smaller than an X5, but in person it is NOT a small vehicle

    I had the same feeling when I saw it the first time in silver as well its very unique and looks very much like a future concept car.

    While I loved the exterior in person, it has a downside. The cargo floor and rear hatch are higher than the X5's, which you would not expect from the photos of the sloped rear roof. The combination of sloped roof and higher cargo floor produce a very small and dark rear window that greatly reduces visibility from the rear-view mirror. The demo vehicles all had light colored interior and I expect that a black interior will create a very dark and cavern-like cabin, so I will steer clear of my usual black leather interior choice

    Every1 buying the x6 will have to compromise with things like small rear window and visibility thats the price you have to pay when you want the exterior to look different.

    Handling was excellent for a vehicle of this size and weight and I think it handles noticeably better than the new X5. The published performance numbers for the X6 six cylinder are 0 - 60 in 6.5 seconds, essentially the same as the V-8 4.8i X5. Performance felt very adequate and it was all too easy to hit 90 mph. I will wait to order the turbo V-8, but I could easily live with the X6 3.5.

    So the handling is much better than the x5 have you ever driven the cayenne which I have heard that handling is better than the x5?

    When driving did you feel that those figures were correct for the x6 inline 6. 0 to 60 in 6.5?

    If its so easy to hit 90 mph and you could easily live with the x6 inline 6 then why did you go for the turbo V8? Perhaps you want more speed?

    Did the dealer give you any reason why the v8 has been delayed?

    Repeating last year’s victory, the 3.0L straight 6-cylinder twin-turbo engine was once again awarded the prestigious award for 2008.

    Does this make the inline 6 the better choice?

    thanks
  • corlt1corlt1 Posts: 29
    I rented an Infiniti FX35 and loved the handling and ride, but wanted more room in the cargo area. The X6 appears to be marketed against the FX and has about the same dimensions. The FX50 is out with 390 hp, but the only noticable changes are the front end and the interior, which is somewhat disappointing as the FX design is getting old. That said, the X6's design is fresh and appears to be targeted towards the empty nest market that wants handling and speed, with the occasional cargo capacity and back seat.
  • anon3anon3 Posts: 147
    So the handling is much better than the x5 have you ever driven the cayenne which I have heard that handling is better than the x5?

    I have test driven the Cayenne. It felt more isolated from the road and the interior felt cramped. I'm also not willing to test the widespread rumors of the Cayenne's un-reliability. I've had 5 X5s and never had any trouble with them, so I'll stick with a known partner.

    When driving did you feel that those figures were correct for the x6 inline 6. 0 to 60 in 6.5?

    Unfortunately, the test drive did not include a visit to a test track. It felt "quick enough", but as you would expect, you have to push a heavier vehicle harder and run it at higher RPM to get top performance... much more so than in the lighter, smaller 3 or 5 series with the same engine.

    If its so easy to hit 90 mph and you could easily live with the x6 inline 6 then why did you go for the turbo V8? Perhaps you want more speed?

    The turbo six delivers "adequate" performance, but not everyone is satisfied with "adequate". More power will transform this vehicle from good to great. No longer a sheep in wolf's clothing. My other BMW for weekend and track driving is a 2006 M6, and I've found it to be hard to switch to a six cylinder during the week. And I've never liked to feel like I "compromised" by choosing the less expensive and more practical engine. I want to look forward to getting behind the wheel with maximum "fun" factor of driving.

    Repeating last year’s victory, the 3.0L straight 6-cylinder twin-turbo engine was once again awarded the prestigious award for 2008. Does this make the inline 6 the better choice?

    "Better" depends on your requirements. The turbo six is less expensive. It gets better gas mileage. It's cheaper to insure. You don't have to wait as long for it. It has been in production longer and has had no significant reliability problems while the Turbo 8 is still unknown. So the turbo 6 is definitely a very smart choice. But none of us has driven the turbo 8 in production mode, so who can say which is the better choice? Right now, we don't have a choice of engines in the X6. Personally, I'm more interested in seeing what BMW does with the hybrid X6.
  • anon3anon3 Posts: 147
    I agree. The closest competitor to the X6 is the new FX. But I would say that Infiniti markets against BMW, not the other way around, since BMW has been the benchmark for so long.

    It's interesting that the FX50's normally aspirate engine with 390hp and 369 lb ft of torque has published 0 - 60 numbers that are equal to or better than the X6 turbo 8 with 400 hp and 450 lb ft of torque (depending on who did the test.) I'll have to research it, but maybe the FX is lighter. Maybe these are just preliminary numbers and the actual performance of the turbo 8 will be better. BMW traditionally is conservative on its published performance numbers by about .3 seconds because they publish average numbers and not the best possible numbers.

    In any case, it doesn't appear that the turbo 8 X6 will have a significant performance advantage over the FX50. And with Infiniti matching or beating BMW handling in other models (like the M45), it may be a little hard to justify the extra $10k for a comparably equipped 8 cyl. X6.
  • anon3anon3 Posts: 147
    Is it true that the V8 version release has been delayed several months??? Are they having problems with this model already? I'm half interested in the V8 model, but I'm beginning to think this would be a bad move.

    The Turbo 8 will be released with the 2009 model year X6 vehicles. This was planned. The engine is not delayed because it is "having problems" according to people I know at the BMW center in Spartanburg. It is true that the Turbo 8 will be a new engine and it will appear in the X6 and the new 7 series first, as has been reported many times over the past few months.
  • crh47crh47 Posts: 20
    Anybody else notice that the new X6 looks exactly like the 2003 Dodge Avenger concept?? Take the crosshairs off the front and screw the twin kidneys and you have yourself a BMW.
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
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  • pakman4pakman4 Posts: 3
    I just got my X6 last weekend wanted to post my initial impressions. I was driving a 2004 545i sport package, so going to the X6 was a big jump. My initial impression so far is that I like the fit and finish of the interior and the exterior is great. While it's not quite as fast as my 545, it has plenty of power to move this somewhat heavy vechicle. The two shortcomings that I have noticed so far are no handle above the drivers and passengar doors, the nav screen is very hard to read in daylight with sun glasses on.
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    I did post you a reply before but wont be asking you anything cause i am pretty sure I wont get a reply..

    Anyway congrats.
  • Can you share with us your gas milage experience? Test drove a 35i today and the sales agent said to exspect 18 to 23 (in spite of the Sticker which read 15/20)
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  • sixfivesixfive Posts: 45
    And a better car according to Motor and Truck Trend. Not sure i'd want to be seen in a BMW that bad. I like the idea of this truck after owning a 5000 pound well handling german SUV. and I like BMW's execution but - really - this is for the same people who buy a porchse cayenne for not other reason than to be seen and have no idea what BMW or Porcsche puts into thier cars. My family includes these types - they buy cars that cost more and offer relatively less. Porsche and BMW love my family. i can't understand them :confuse:
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  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    LAURENS, South Carolina — BMW's new X6 may not be the most useful "packaging" job on the road, but word's getting around quickly about insane handling of BMW's gnarly crossover "coupe:" The 5,000-pound X6 can practically outcorner a 911, and Inside Line's own testing shows the blunderbuss slithers through the slalom quicker than BMW's 550i sedan

    Is this the x6 inline 6 or the v8 which can outcornet a 911 and quicker than a 550i through the slalom?
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    Dunno - maybe ask Bob over in Straightline?

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    The target market for the X6 obviously has utility well down the list of priorities. And in person, the X6 is quite striking. But since it is designed to only hold 4 people, instead of having it bigger and heavier than the X5, if they had made it 2 inches narrower and shorter, and 200 - 300 lbs lighter, than the X5, then they might have hit a niche. Then, the 300hp twin turbo could do some damage, and the vehicle would be that much more nimble. Right now, I look at the bulk of the thing, the 4-person capacity and smallish cargo area, and wonder why, pray tell, do they think they need to make it that big? Is there some sort of pissing contest to see who can make the biggest, baddest-looking SUV, or SAV?
  • puaropuaro Posts: 3
    Hi, I am Anjelica.Where do you come from in Russia? I have known a man named "muchkus". Please let me know.Bye
  • anon3anon3 Posts: 147
    There's more to the X6 than just the looks. To quote the August '08 Short Take in Car and Driver on the X6 5.0 Xdrive: "This baby also laps the Nurburgring within a couple seconds of the previous-gen (E46) M3." They also said "... we expect it to hang with a 335i to a mid-13-second quarter mile."

    The X6 isn't just about looks and styling. Dismissing it as a vehicle that people buy when they just want to be seen in the vehicle and not actually drive the vehicle is an over simplification that appeals to people who don't want to think very much.
  • muchkusmuchkus Posts: 3
    Hi, Anjelica! I'm reaaaal. I live in Moscow now. Are you the girl who were the 2-nd captain? You like the X6? I'm buying that one, the 4.4 Twin Turbo, used to call Xdrive50
  • puaropuaro Posts: 3
    Privet!
    Ty deystwitelno iz Kazani ili ya oshibyus? Tebya zwali Ruslan i ty gil naprotiw Hudogestwennogo muzeya? U tebya byla tak ge dacha na Kordone. Esli wse eto deystwitelno k tebe podhodit, to ya ochen rada, chto tebya nashla. U nas teper X5 4.4 - dlya znatokow. Ya giwu w Awstrii. Day mne znat, esli ty deystwitelno TY.
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    The X6 is a niche vehicle, and it won't appeal to everybody. I doubt BMW is planning on making this a vehicle a volume selling priority.

    When this vehicle was planned 3 years ago, premium gas wasn't nearly $5 a gallon in the US.

    Even if you have the money, the X6 will have limited appeal in the future. The people that really want one and think it's cool will keep it viable for the 1st 6 month to a year. But after that, you have to keep customers coming when the "newness" factor wears off on a vehicle. You've gotta turn fringe shoppers into buyers for long term success.

    People still spend money on things that don't make sense. Land Rover has done quite well with the Sport. A very expensive 65k vehicle that's the size of a Ford Escape on the inside, and guzzles gas at an alarming rate.

    I'm sure the X6 will thrive for a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if this vehicle doesn't make it 5 or 6 years down the road. Especially if fuel prices are $6-7 gallon in the US 2 years from now.

    BMW financial posted a 300 million dollar loss this year with high residual leases coming back to bite them. They can't afford to subsidize cars like they did in the past with crazy high residuals to keep payments ridiculously low for US customers.
  • sixfivesixfive Posts: 45
    by an Infiniti FX that costs $10-$15 grand less and weighs 600-700 #'s less. I'm sure they can stuff a turbo 6 into anything and make it faster than an old m3. I'm sure it drives well for what it is - as I said it's a BMW and it means something.

    The question is why is bMW doing this? Why does the company who thrives on cutting excess weight and putting nimble machines on the road and that lives by a reputation and impeccible brand image building a tank? It looks cool now but like many bangled cars, will have an accelerated life cycle and look dowdy before long. It makes no sense in todays oil price environment. But it will still sell to folks who know nothing about BMWness and want to show up in a BMW. (note generalization taking place- Of course somewhere a true lover of fine auto's will get suckered)

    "Dismissing it as a vehicle that people buy when they just want to be seen in the vehicle and not actually drive the vehicle is an over simplification that appeals to people who don't want to think very much. "

    I dismiss it because it's a pig. I could care less how it drives if it's 800 pounds of extra weight to carry nothing. At least the toaureg/cayenne could off road and hold some stuff to justify it's 5000 pound mass. So while I was lazing my mind into simple concluisions about a car I never will be in the market for nor find having any appeal, I also noticed the fakes in my family loving how big the grill was. While BMW owners are not all like my relatives, I can't see the real enthusiast driver or BMW enthusiast buying a iron pig. But maybe I'm too optimistic.

    I dismiss the Porcshe v-6 Cayenne as well becasue it's ridiculous to pay 25k more for a car that you can get with a people's car badge with the same motor and underpinnings. At least that family member admits thier mistake and after driving our new Murano, unfortunately they feel awful about their 35 months of remaining 800 dollar payments. I would be bummed too. Our VW was way more comfy and luxurious. I guess my perspective would indicate a preference toward value. My predisposition comes from my profession.

    I cracked up when my sister in law's 5 series was in her driveway for 3 years and she never tried the nav or the i-drive. Too scary she said. She wanted to get the payment to a huge number so she could tell everyone what it was and we could be impressed. She's perfect for the x drive and her lease is up..I can see where this is going...
  • lovemyclklovemyclk Posts: 351
    "Privet!
    Ty deystwitelno iz Kazani ili ya oshibyus? Tebya zwali Ruslan i ty gil naprotiw Hudogestwennogo muzeya? U tebya byla tak ge dacha na Kordone. Esli wse eto deystwitelno k tebe podhodit, to ya ochen rada, chto tebya nashla. U nas teper X5 4.4 - dlya znatokow. Ya giwu w Awstrii. Day mne znat, esli ty deystwitelno TY
    ."

    :confuse: ;)
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    First of all thank you for all the replys.

    Unfortunately, the test drive did not include a visit to a test track. It felt "quick enough", but as you would expect, you have to push a heavier vehicle harder and run it at higher RPM to get top performance... much more so than in the lighter, smaller 3 or 5 series with the same engine.

    Did you feel it was quicker than the x5 4.8 v8?

    Got your v8 delivery yet?

    What color did you choose?

    Active steering?

    I've read many negative posts about bmws and the especially the x5.

    You are the only 1 who has driven so many bmws with all positive feed backs.
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    Is there some sort of pissing contest to see who can make the biggest, baddest-looking SUV, or SAV?

    LOL its possible. porsche will be next within 2 years to show its next gen cayenne.
  • bhwbhw Posts: 1
    I think Hellwig should re-read his own article. How does the X6 get by on looks alone?

    He even says, "'On the skid pad, the X6 generates a 0.87g...a better number than three out of the four V8 Sport Sedans we compared last month.' 'The X6 is equally fast through the slalom, posting a best run of 65.3 mph...plenty of grip combined with a well-sorted suspension and responsive steering allows the X6 to transition quickly and push right to the limit.' 'Stopping power is another area where the X6 manages its weight well...There are sports cars that take 10 feet longer to accomplish the same feat.'"

    It's almost as if he forget which car he tested.

    The X6 creates a new standard and raises the bar for SUV expectations.
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    Couldn't agree more

    The X6 is a beauty, Well not to everyone, Some people will always say its heavy can't compare to a sedan ugly will be a flop useless etc etc...

    As for me I would always choose the X6 rather than a large or sports sedan.

    X6 is unique unbelievable car like handling only cayenne has similar abilities.

    The only doubt I have bmws don't have such good reliability or electronics history.

    Those turbo lags in the engine :blush:
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    To anon3

    Hey,

    I am still waiting for your reply of my previous message.

    Since your the only 1 here whos getting the v8 and already test the v6 would really like to hear your experience.

    I am assuming you already got your v8 but no feed back yet.

    I also remember some1 else in the x6 forum buying the x6 but after posting he bought the x6 v6 never replied again...
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