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I'm willing to bet any amount of money that all three of these pics are of the new 4Runner in 2 trim levels. I was told by 3 different inside Toyota sources that these vehicles are the new 4Runner, but they wouldn't reveal too much more about the design, except to say that there's no mistaking it for anything other than a 4Runner. So, I'm guessing that it's very possible Toyota is going to further distinguish the Limited and SR5 by having more differentiating design cues, like the bumpers, and more obviously different wheels. If you want to read more about the details from the different insiders, check out the forums on the 4Runner over at http://caranddriver.com and http://roadandtrack.com. They explain things in a little more detail. One of them has even sat in the new 4Runner.
As far as specs on the new 4Runner, there aren't any yet, but all the car magazines are now in agreement that it shares the same platform as the GX. Check out the Truck Trend article that I posted (if you can ever get it to load), as well as any magazine on the shelf, or even their websites, and it's confirmed that they share the new platform, along with the up-dated Landcruiser Prado for over-seas. I've also had this confirmed by the same 3 inside Toyota sources. For specs on the GX, check out http://www.suv.com.
Aggiedog, I couldn't agree more. These are pics of the new 4Runner, whether anyone believes it or not. So let's wait for the black-out crap to come off and see if we like what we see. Why is Toyota tormenting us so?!!!
I talked to a salesman who had been to LA for some hush hush update. He wouldn't talk much about it except to say what we've heard before: that it'll look a lot different and it'll have more power. He also said we could look for the LandCruiser to be phased out (I didn't ask him re the PRADO). He also intimated that there might be some sort of reverse sticker shock, like there was when one of the Camrys came out, where they actually reduced the price. I kind of doubt it. I mean why would they? They can't keep them on the showroom floor!
The current 4Runner is made in Japan, right? Does anyone know whether the next one will be made at the Tundra plant here in the US? This would give us a clue as to the engine at least. It would also allow greater volume, and possibly lower prices.
Will you find '02 in November, very unlikely, but hey you never know. The '03 is due out in September sometime so you may not see '02 that late. My guess is if you find one on the lot and the new one as well make an offer you may be surprised.
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Mackabee
Hey, how wide is the 2003 going to be?
IMHO, I think that the current 4 Runner is a tad bit narrow (cramped) for comfort and I'd like to see it a bit wider (for stability as well)......but I'm keeping my fingers crossed and praying that they don't make it TOO WIDE like that Acura MDX - 77 inches(what were those guys thinking??????)Currently the 4 Runner 68 inches wide and rumor has it that it will be about 4 inches wider -72inches (HOPE THIS IS TRUE, cause anything wider would make it practically useless on the trails, and it would lose it's nimble fun-to-drive factor and it's precious manuverability)
No question, for those who need the extra off-road and towing capability, the 4Runner will be an excellent choice. Although the new '03 Expedition offers those capabilities too; and offers IRS, 3-row seating, and I've seen several XLT-trim models with sticker prices just above $37K.
Granted, the Expedition is more likely to be compared to a Sequoia, but still, it's food for thought...
Bob
1. What should I expect to get for it? I have only 50,000 actual miles on it and I'm the original owner. Other than a worn spot on the leather upholstery and a small dent in the back, it's in perfect condition.
2. Should I wait for the 03 or try for a good deal on this year's model? Hubby is pushing me to get a Lexus, but I've been ecstatically happy with the Toyota. What do you think?
As far as waiting for the '03 Runner, that's exactly what I'm doing. If you have time to skim some of the posts over the last month or so on this board, you'll get a good idea for the pros and cons of the '02 vs the '03. To sum it up, if you aren't concerned about additional power, more roomy interior, or improved ergonomics, then the current 4Runner is for you. If those things that are lacking in the '02 bother you, then wait until September. It's not that far away. The new model will have a 245 hp/283 lbs/ft V6 and an optional 235 hp/320 lbs/ft V8 (standard in the Limited), and is about 5" longer, 4.5" wider, and 3 to 5" taller, with a much-improved interior with optional navigation and DVD systems. If cost is an issue, the word is that Toyota is going to actually cut the price of the 4Runner slightly, by offering more packaged options. Supposedly, they're trying to get the 4Runner closer to it's roots as being an affordable off-roader, while making it more competitive with the Xterra.
I personally was unimpressed with the 4Runner in the fall of '97, when I ordered my '98 Jimmy 4x4 instead. I recently drove a 2002, and while there have been some improvements over the last couple of years, I was still unimpressed. Especially when there are so many SUVs out there with more power and nicer interiors. From the looks of the Lexus GX470 that the new 4Runner is based on, and the spy photos I have posted, I think the '03 is going to be WELL WORTH THE WAIT.
If your husband is pushing you toward Lexus, but you like the 4Runner, then the new GX470 would satisfy both of your needs, but you'll have to wait until November for that, and pay a little more for it. I think it's an awesome-looking, incredible SUV, at least on paper.
If you don't want to scroll up to find the links to pictures of the Lexus and '03 4Runner spy shots I posted, let me know and I'll post them again for you. Hope all this helps! -TB
Here's a link to Kelley Blue Book. It will give you a ball park on the value of your current vehicle.
http://www.kbb.com/
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1992/toyota/4runner/index.html
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Thanks for the info. I did the Edmonds estimate and was pleasantly surprised. Obviously, I keep my cars a long time so I'm pretty rusty at the trade in thing.
Only thing is, it looks like I'll have to forego the tailgate in favor of the lift. Don't know how I'll adapt to that, but I guess time will tell.
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Mackabee
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http://makeashorterlink.com/?R26012701
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R27032701
If you click on "Automotive" at the top either page, you get a choice of pics within the photo album, one of which is the GX470 photo collection.
Enjoy! -TB
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Mackabee
If that's not the case, and it's fading in the sun, or for some other reason, then I would definitely have Toyota replace the trim under warranty. You can try to restore it the same way I did mine, but once something like that happens due to sun or acid rain damage, chances are you'll have to do it again periodically, which would be a pain in the [non-permissible content removed], in my opinion. Better to have it done right.
Since I don't own a 4Runner yet (can't wait till September!!), I may be way off base, and some of the other Toyota aficionados may be able to give you a better answer. Hope I helped though. Good luck! -TB
1998 >> 2001. Seeing how the prices are a little too high for some of these 4Runners. Does anyone recommend purchasing or think that prices will drop since Toyota has redesigned it ???
Should I wait a few months ?
Your suggestions are welcome, thanks.
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Mackabee
Thanks,
Joe
Can you tell this has happened to me? The fix is to take a small metal hook (I used a fish hook that I bent with pliers) and pull those contact pieces out. Once I did that, the lighter and charger worked like new.
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Mackabee
My wife had that same problem with the cell phone charger in her car, but it was due to what cliffy1 mentioned. I bent the prongs out to where they should have been, and it was fine again.
"The SR5-V6 w/ the Sport Pkg. will be equipped as follows:
P265/65R17 raised white letter tires, 17" alloy wheels, X-Reas suspension system, larger front disc brakes, Hood Scoop, silver painted roof-rack, metallic accents, color-keyed mirrors, sport badging, foglamps, automatic headlights, security system, garage door opener, tilt/telescopic leather steering wheel, two-tone sport seat fabric, power moonroof, 10 speaker JBL AM/FM/CD/CASS and rear seat audio, fender flares, auto-climate control, aux. rear heater, privacy glass, towing package w/hitch, multi-information display, power group and cruise control.
As you can see, there will be a long list of standard features on the new Runner, it's just too bad we won't get the new V6 'til late Dec."
I don't know about the rest of you, but I REALLY can't wait until September now!!! I'll take one in black, please... :^D