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Of course I know that, I was one that said that hpfp's fuel pumps fail more on gassers than diesels. Even as he says diesel fuel can be more wonky. The issue was balance. I quoted accurately. Shifty either said what I cited/lifted or he didn't. I do not think I lifted it from someone else and attributed to him.
I think you must missed the full frontal attack drivel posts by another frequent poster. I believed the host's removed it. Why he feels he needs to attack close to everything and twists everything are known only to him. So if you are not of that ilk, I will just leave it at that.
Nice concept, but I don't see it ever happening.
I like your posts ruking..just for the record, ok? although your excessive short forming drives me crazy sometimes to the point that I just get tired of looking up what they mean...when I spend more time looking up the shortforms than absorbing the content of your post.
That said tho, I don't like mis-quoting and putting words in other's mouths and I guess I am a bit sensitive to it. I know that you seem to not see where you mis-quoted and that you actually believe that you didn't..whatever..peace still just the same..
Moving right along.......
By using SCR technology with AdBlue, DAF have been able to improve the fuel economy which more than compensates for the cost of AdBlue. A fuel saving of 1.5% – 2.0% compensates for the cost of AdBlue and DAF’s SCR engines can give up to 4% fuel savings over their Euro 3 predecessors
http://www.daf.eu/SiteCollectionDocuments/UK/adblue_the_facts.pdf
was @ app 1%
(= 4.5 gal DEF/450 gals D2 fuel) I have seen estimates of 5 gals ( DEF consumption) in 15,000 miles.
To me what might have been more consumptive (outlier) was break-in was conducted slightly to more aggressively (rpm). While I tried to keep it to 4,000 rpm (max hp specifications, no real advantage torque wise, past 3,000 rpm ) and under, (78% and under of redline) I frequently took it closer to when the computer controlled it :surprise: :shades: I also did aggressive DE accelerations. Speeds were also VARIED.
I am beginning to think that is the REAL issue for the brouhaha with the 2004 Prius and almost any other vehicle folks might be happy to dissatisfied with. This is NOT to say there are NOT problems. There most certainly ARE. The specifications and parameters go unheeded, or unknown. So when the vehicle is not operated within them because of some mistaken assumption or erroneous facts, they are obviously and understandably disappointed.
In my case, part of the rational in NOT getting the 2004 Prius was I was not willing to do what it would have taken to get close to the EPA 's 60 mpg C/50 mpg H. Their are other reasons, but that is the one germane to the point.
So for another example, even though it might seem unrelated to diesels, I had to take some time to integrate the 8 speed A/T with the VW 3.0 TDI. At first glance, it is just the addition of 2 gears and a sequential shift gate. On the face of it, that is absolutely true.
The new Grand Edition Viano AVANTGARDE is available in "compact" and "long" body variants. Buyers can also choose between two powerful yet at the same time economical, low-emission engines: these include the four-cylinder 2.2 CDI with an output of 120 kW (163 hp) and the V6 3.0 CDI producing 165 kW (225 hp), an engine which is unique in this class.
After fueling @ 6,237 ft after a trip UPGRADE (210 miles x 2=420 miles + 30 miles in and around 6,237 ft) from sea level to 7,300 ft and down into 6,237 ft for 29.5 mpg, the trip DOWNGRADE was started .
(The TWIST)
The computer posted app 41.5 mpg out of the mountains to app 2,000 ft.
At that altitude, we were able to pick back up to more normal freeway speeds. Fueling at sea level posted 34.5 mpg for the down grade leg. The average for the trip was 32 mpg.
EDIT: just did a search and they are saying this thing STARTS at 50k euros! Yikes!!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
It's also not very "mini", it's looks bigger in person anyway. Would be cool to see it here though.
a possible mechanism for the overload is that the voltage drop quite low when the skillsaw load is attached, thus increasing the required current well beyond the overload-mode-threshold-current-detector...
a generator with 5kw peak-power-rating may be especially important for you if you need to a more inductive load such as a skilsaw.
a possible reason the generator worked at first and not now is that it had better compression and better hp when new. the current-detector might have failed on the generator too, but it is expected for a gas engine to lose hp/compression over enough time/use. i understand these generator engines are not exactly lifetime workhorses.
you could consider to put a current/AC-voltage meter-plug-thing inline to see the actual voltage troughs & current-peaks.
in diesel car news, the Volkwagen Golf GTD for 2014 in USA looks unavoidably attractive to me. manual transmission, 280 hp (ft-lbs too!?), diesel, good times!!!!
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Ruking, meant to ask. Do you prefer one brand of ULSD over the others?
I know someone with an 04 or so Allroad, and it has been pretty decent - but I have also read many horror stories. Probably one of those models where maybe 1:50 cars weren't troublesome.
Of course, in Europe, you can get that A6-based diesel Allroad.
It took a lot of research to find a good Lexus mechanic. My last two vehicles I got the 7 year warranty. Though not sure it is worth it. I just like the looks of that Allroad. I would not even look at one to buy if it was not diesel. I am tired of supporting the oil companies that control the EPA and CARB. Now that you have seen for yourself the diesel advantages you can understand. Impossible to get through to most people that have never owned a modern diesel vehicle.
Yes, I thought that was why the latest cabal was RE elected? What's good for Wally World is guud for MERICA? Few diesels are the current US market situation, at 5% and less.
The next-generation Audi A4 will arrive sometime in 2014. Pricing and launch details on the diesel variant of the Audi A4 were not disclosed."
Next-Generation Audi A4 in U.S. To Offer Diesel Option
This was this morning's diesel wonder. Was idling for 5+ minutes near an autoparts store as I was walking to the phone company to pay my internet bill.
Do you tell them "no problem, I only fill it once a year."
I think on a road trip, a 700+ mile range should be no problem.
On the other side of it, The Taylors did 5 mph under the speed limit and made a 43 mpg EPA car post 84.1 mpg !!! But then all would agree that is probably an outlier average. Besides you have more than once said mpg is not a motivator for you.
Anyone who could market a full size sedan that could be driven normally and that got 84 mpg, would rule the world and grow rich beyond measure. I don't believe that kind of anecdotal evidence anyway. I'd need to see a measured course with measured fuel and repeated tests.
But gee, even 60 mpg in a mid-size 4-door car (like a Taurus) would be fantastic. That'd boost the diesel market for certain.
But I think it is important in both comparison (like model) and scale for the times.
So for example, using 20 mpg (gasser) vs 30 mpg (diesel) a min of 50% BETTER:
I know you would agree that even on this board, BETTER mph is ALMOST a yawn.
Truth be told, that except for a MUCH smaller minority it is almost total sleeps ville.
Now I like the difference, but even I understand it is an almost total outlier minority position.
Yet the Jetta somehow still felt underpowered. No one expects this car to crush Mustangs at stoplights. But every on ramp, stop sign, or passing situation served as reminder that fuel economy came at the expense of useful power.
Still, the Jetta Hybrid doesn't feel like a $32,000 car — especially when you consider a base Jetta costs just $17,000, and the diesel Jetta costs $4,000 less than the hybrid.
Sure, not everyone wants a diesel. But they should. The Jetta Hybrid only reinforces this point."
2013 Volkswagen Jetta: Hybrid vs. diesel (Chicago Tribune)
Diesels are ONLY 5% of the passenger diesel population (258.5 M @ 12.93M). Of that population, fully 50% (6.463 M) are the "light" but really heavier passenger vehicle segment. But, the 3 % came back from the dying to dead minority outlier population by 67 % to 5% of the passenger vehicle fleet !!!!
The VW turbo hybrid would be interesting comparison against the Prius. I think VW would be thrilled to death to sell its miniscuse inventory of "hybrids, "aka Prius competitor" as a "go with the program" US market policy. Cars.com shows 1,429 units of 2013 Jetta turbo hybrids and 3 Touareg supercharger hybrids. Of course, the other half of that would be "turbo", in which they are one of the dominate turbo oems (Garrett Turbo, a division of Honeywell, a VERY American vendor)
On another diesel related mpg topic, SOS DD ( in a good way).
The VW T, 3.0 TDI posted 28 mpg (1 to 2 mpg DROP, by computer) loaded and STUFFED to the literal gills with app 1,000/1,500 #'s of bulky "stuff". Defacto blocking and bracing made it feel more like a loaded suv/tow vehicle, but still it did Highway 50 (twisty two lane with twisty 2 lane each way passing areas, to Tahoe, folks can google it) like the proverbial mountain goat being chased by a predator. Evidently on a connecting Highway UP, PRE Saint Patty's Day was CHP 6 vehicle enforcement day (one way) in full early morning swing. I have never seen sooooo many cars (non accident) in one area. Even had to slow to 75 mph :surprise: :shades:
The same leg only downgrade and NO STUFF let the vehicle post 31.4 mpg (DROP obviously from a prior post)
Tragic but real: Got stuck in the GAWKING lanes on multiple cars and accidents and twin fatality (RIP) scenario/s for almost an hour closer to San Jose, CA on the return trip. It literally had the full complement of CHP's, fire trucks, ambulances, tow trucks, news Helo's etc.
Unsurprisingly, the car wouldn’t start.
http://jalopnik.com/president-obamas-limo-breaks-down-in-israel-after-bein-45677- 3406
from the Huff Post
..."As reported by CNN, the official presidential limousine -- nicknamed “The Beast” because of its extensive features and defense systems -- broke down Wednesday after its driver reportedly fueled the vehicle with gasoline rather than diesel fuel."...
I am then indeed confused. I had read the Cadillac POTUS limo (fleet) was indeed a gaggle of turbo diesels. (I understand there are more than one.) I SWAG it really needs massive torque and no fuel draw going the speeds and idling as it does. I am not sure what it means when the lefties actually get it RIGHT.
But then the food [non-permissible content removed]'s are letting Twinkies live ! :shades: Ho Ho's and DING DONGS to resurrect !!!!
(And Yahoo says it was a diesel they put gas in - but I thought diesels would burn most anything from coal tar to Jack Daniels, so what's problem? :P )
Even diesels have limitations on the crap they will burn.
Or the crap they have to haul around.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Diesels are way dumbed down also, ala 43 mpg vs 71 to 78 mpg?
Me, I'm all for it----just sayin'.................